Colorado Growers Thread

[Dave Coulier]

What's the advantage of a glass pipe? I've actually never tried one. I'm still stuck on corncob....

For me, I buy glass pipes first and foremost on aethestics. I love the look of hand blown glass pipes that are custom made and not mass produced or generic in anyway.

They're a bitch to clean though. Especially if you're a heavy smoker such as I. And prone to breakage though

Whats the advantages to a corn cob pipe? Ive always thought about picking one up. Any tips you can provide to help ease my foray into them?

 

[Ganoderma]

They're a bitch to clean though. Especially if you're a heavy smoker such as I. And prone to breakage though

Soak your pipe in a jar of rubbing alcohol for a week or two depending on how bad your pipe is. When you take it out of the jar, take a tooth pick to scrape the inside of the bowl, it comes right off. Fill the pipe with a little water (hot water), plug the holes of the pipe and shake it. Rinse it out, fill it again and shake again, several times till you get no more crap coming out. Take rubbing alcohol and rub the pipe down, including the inside of the bowl. Wash it off once more to remove any rubbing alcohol, dry it off and you have a nice clean like new glass pipe.

 

[Avinash.miles]

smoking out of glass is nice
i just hate when it breaks, get a nice sentimental attatchment to it... let alone the $$ cost...
then it breaks and its gone forever, and i'm always looking for one that's like it... and can't find juuuust the right one so dont get a replacement, and five years later i've done nothing but rolled myself joints for the most part.

 

[Photosynthesis]

Soak your pipe in a jar of rubbing alcohol for a week or two depending on how bad your pipe is. When you take it out of the jar, take a tooth pick to scrape the inside of the bowl, it comes right off. Fill the pipe with a little water (hot water), plug the holes of the pipe and shake it. Rinse it out, fill it again and shake again, several times till you get no more crap coming out. Take rubbing alcohol and rub the pipe down, including the inside of the bowl. Wash it off once more to remove any rubbing alcohol, dry it off and you have a nice clean like new glass pipe.

Cleaning pipes sucks balls. I just throw them away, and get a new one. Although I may have a larger supply available to me then most. I haven't cleaned a pipe in over a decade.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Soak your pipe in a jar of rubbing alcohol for a week or two depending on how bad your pipe is. When you take it out of the jar, take a tooth pick to scrape the inside of the bowl, it comes right off. Fill the pipe with a little water (hot water), plug the holes of the pipe and shake it. Rinse it out, fill it again and shake again, several times till you get no more crap coming out. Take rubbing alcohol and rub the pipe down, including the inside of the bowl. Wash it off once more to remove any rubbing alcohol, dry it off and you have a nice clean like new glass pipe.

it helps if you put some table salt inside the pipe with the rubbing alcohol and shake it too. the salt doesn't dissolve in the alcohol (it works better with the 91%) and it acts as an abrasive. speeds the process up a bit

NOTE ! that abrasive effect WILL leave some micro scratches in the glass. if you have a really heady piece that you love a lot, just stick with the alcohol

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Cleaning pipes sucks balls. I just throw them away, and get a new one. Although I may have a larger supply available to me then most. I haven't cleaned a pipe in over a decade.

why throw it away? i'd drop it at the local park where all the young-uns hang out and kill brain cells.

one mans trash is another mans treasure

 

[Dave Coulier]

Soak your pipe in a jar of rubbing alcohol for a week or two depending on how bad your pipe is. When you take it out of the jar, take a tooth pick to scrape the inside of the bowl, it comes right off. Fill the pipe with a little water (hot water), plug the holes of the pipe and shake it. Rinse it out, fill it again and shake again, several times till you get no more crap coming out. Take rubbing alcohol and rub the pipe down, including the inside of the bowl. Wash it off once more to remove any rubbing alcohol, dry it off and you have a nice clean like new glass pipe.

Thanks for the tips. It sounds similar to what I already do, but you soak much longer than I ever have. Tops was two days for me. I guess Im impatient, and I do have my favorite pipe I like to smoke out of. A two day soak always left behind material that was a pain to get at. Ill soak longer next time.

Instead of toothpicks, have you ever tried q-tips? Its what I use now, and as long as the pipe is wet inside while cleaning you dont need to worry about cotton being left behind.

 

[Jhhnn]

it helps if you put some table salt inside the pipe with the rubbing alcohol and shake it too. the salt doesn't dissolve in the alcohol (it works better with the 91%) and it acts as an abrasive. speeds the process up a bit

NOTE ! that abrasive effect WILL leave some micro scratches in the glass. if you have a really heady piece that you love a lot, just stick with the alcohol

Acetone works even better with salt, along the same principle. I use ice cream salt (rock salt) in my bubbler along with acetone & corks. We have a tiny funnel for getting table salt & acetone inside the double wall bowls. pour it in, cover the ends, shake, repeat as necessary. Rinse with water when satisfied. It's a lot easier when I don't let it get really gunked up. I do it in the kitchen sink, run lots of water afterwards to send any remaining acetone on its way.

Another handy tool is a flat spring steel tine from a streetsweeper brush. Found along the curb, they're easily sanitized w/ bleach & buffed up w/ steel wool. I put a kink near one end of mine with some pliers so it'll dig around corners. A short piece of an old style electrician's fish tape can serve much the same way.

Then bodies of Iluzion glass bubblers are pretty sturdy, the bowls & stems replaceable because of standardized design. Good stuff..

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Acetone works even better with salt, along the same principle. I use ice cream salt (rock salt) in my bubbler along with acetone & corks. We have a tiny funnel for getting table salt & acetone inside the double wall bowls. pour it in, cover the ends, shake, repeat as necessary. Rinse with water when satisfied. It's a lot easier when I don't let it get really gunked up. I do it in the kitchen sink, run lots of water afterwards to send any remaining acetone on its way.

Another handy tool is a flat spring steel tine from a streetsweeper brush. Found along the curb, they're easily sanitized w/ bleach & buffed up w/ steel wool. I put a kink near one end of mine with some pliers so it'll dig around corners. A short piece of an old style electrician's fish tape can serve much the same way.

Then bodies of Iluzion glass bubblers are pretty sturdy, the bowls & stems replaceable because of standardized design. Good stuff..

acetone works great, there is no arguing with that

if you don't mind washing questionable stuff down the drain you might want to check this stuff out



it does say right on the bottle that prolonged contact will fuck glass up but IME it is only where the air and the chems come in contact. sink the piece and make sure there are no air bubbles in it and everything will be fine.

i made a basket out of stainless steel welding rod that i just drop the piece in bowl down to avoid trapping any air and let it soak until the next one is dirty. rinse with hot water and shake and it's done.

you can use it over and over again until it's ready to be replace (i've gone over a year before it burns out). when it's ready to change i take it to a friend and he dumps it in the safety-kleen at work instead of pouring it down the drain.

the VOC compared to acetone is almost zero and the stuff doesn't burn. last time i checked a gallon costs $8 at wally world.

i've used this stuff to clean glass that other methods didn't work on and stuff that was so old and crusty that the owners said it was impossible. it might take a couple soaks and rinses to get ancient crust out of some nooks and crannys but at least it works with pretty much no effort

just a different path to get to the same goal but it works. one more thing to have in the arsenal just in case you need the nuclear option.

FWIW i was working on an old bubbler once and even this stuff was leaving some strange stain behind. after a lot of head scratching it turned out it was scale that had built up over the years and over the weed crust in more layers than i had ever seen. one dose of CLR solved that issue for me

 

[Jhhnn]

acetone works great, there is no arguing with that

if you don't mind washing questionable stuff down the drain you might want to check this stuff out

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=48914&pictureid=1394525View Image

it does say right on the bottle that prolonged contact will fuck glass up but IME it is only where the air and the chems come in contact. sink the piece and make sure there are no air bubbles in it and everything will be fine.

i made a basket out of stainless steel welding rod that i just drop the piece in bowl down to avoid trapping any air and let it soak until the next one is dirty. rinse with hot water and shake and it's done.

you can use it over and over again until it's ready to be replace (i've gone over a year before it burns out). when it's ready to change i take it to a friend and he dumps it in the safety-kleen at work instead of pouring it down the drain.

the VOC compared to acetone is almost zero and the stuff doesn't burn. last time i checked a gallon costs $8 at wally world.

i've used this stuff to clean glass that other methods didn't work on and stuff that was so old and crusty that the owners said it was impossible. it might take a couple soaks and rinses to get ancient crust out of some nooks and crannys but at least it works with pretty much no effort

just a different path to get to the same goal but it works. one more thing to have in the arsenal just in case you need the nuclear option.

FWIW i was working on an old bubbler once and even this stuff was leaving some strange stain behind. after a lot of head scratching it turned out it was scale that had built up over the years and over the weed crust in more layers than i had ever seen. one dose of CLR solved that issue for me

Thanks for that. I'd need a spare bubbler, which I don't have. Well, not yet. Do you use the stuff straight, or cut it with water?

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Thanks for that. I'd need a spare bubbler, which I don't have. Well, not yet. Do you use the stuff straight, or cut it with water?

use it straight

one thing you might want to do is put a bowl under your soak jar and keep it there permanently. if you slosh some of the stuff over the edge of the jar while your wife is watching you clean a pipe it will end up in the bowl and not on the countertop. wifes freak out a little bit when you get degreaser on the countertop some reason

don't ask me how i know this just take my word for it

the label tells you all kinds of stuff you can clean with this product and the dilution rates ........... countertop is unfortunately not one of them

 

[Jhhnn]

use it straight

one thing you might want to do is put a bowl under your soak jar and keep it there permanently. if you slosh some of the stuff over the edge of the jar while your wife is watching you clean a pipe it will end up in the bowl and not on the countertop. wifes freak out a little bit when you get degreaser on the countertop some reason

don't ask me how i know this just take my word for it

the label tells you all kinds of stuff you can clean with this product and the dilution rates ........... countertop is unfortunately not one of them

Thanks for that. I think your spouse takes a more traditional view than my own who barely notices that the formica is getting worn on our own countertops after being hammered for 20 years. I care more than she does.

On an entirely different note, I have to say that my misguided efforts to totally screw up this first grow in the new space may turn out better than I'd hoped. It's a good thing that I'm not trying to grow something delicate because it'd probably be dead by now. Most of what I thought I knew wasn't really that at all, but rather a function of being more lucky than good in the old space. It's been humbling, but I believe we'll harvest enough to sustain us until the next round is grown & harvested.

Recycled soil is trickier than I'd thought. Coco just seems to get hungrier for calcium as it ages & soil seems to get finer, meaning it holds water better than I'd like. I'll lighten it up considerably with chunky perlite for the next batch. I'm considering air-pots for seedlings & grow bags instead of pots, as well.

Any advice?

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

LOL!!! are you asking me about recycled soil? brother i'm not even going there! i have no idea what i'm doing most of the time anyway

BUT ........ the very first recipe in this thread works great even if you use wiggle worm and the ECO compost from home depot. do just what the man says and after you mix it you can spend the cook time reading the thread and figure out just how far down the rabbit hole you want to run....https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=241964..... be warned it's a pretty deep rabbit hole

all the stuff you need for the recipe is usually on the shelf at Way to Grow aside from the bentonite (but i figure most of us have plenty of clay in the backyard and it works too). i've run it with just denver water through blumats in 10 gallon totes on a few dozen strains and it's never failed. some strains have finished pretty green but they finished well

it might be easier on you than trying to fix the mix you have

 

[KiefSweat]

bokashi would be good to add to used soil for recycling purposes

 

[Jhhnn]

LOL!!! are you asking me about recycled soil? brother i'm not even going there! i have no idea what i'm doing most of the time anyway

BUT ........ the very first recipe in this thread works great even if you use wiggle worm and the ECO compost from home depot. do just what the man says and after you mix it you can spend the cook time reading the thread and figure out just how far down the rabbit hole you want to run....https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=241964..... be warned it's a pretty deep rabbit hole

all the stuff you need for the recipe is usually on the shelf at Way to Grow aside from the bentonite (but i figure most of us have plenty of clay in the backyard and it works too). i've run it with just denver water through blumats in 10 gallon totes on a few dozen strains and it's never failed. some strains have finished pretty green but they finished well

it might be easier on you than trying to fix the mix you have

Thanks for that. I'm beginning to see how hydro just might be easier..... I have serious space constraints when it comes to storage of raw materials so I've been screening & re-amending 2 batches of commercial potting mix. I just need better aeration & drainage. I'd hoped that TGA supersoil would largely free me from bottled nutes, but it's too heavy, stays wet & is easily over watered. Feh.

I recently received some Grow It chunky perlite which isn't quite as chunky as I'd hoped. Musta been stoned when I ordered it, because 4 cu.ft. is a shitpile of perlite....... I'll gladly part with some of it, for free.

 

[Seaf0ur]

go to the local brewery supply shop (I go to the one on hampden and chambers) pick up some rice hulls cheap, and use their decomposition and compaction as a measure of when to reamend your soil... and of course... add more rice hulls.. bonus: rice hulls give off good amounts of silica as they decompose...

 

[Avinash.miles]

more hearings this week concerning the caregivers and medical;

Another week, another fight against lobbyists eagerly willing to surrender morality and put people's lives on the line for the almighty $. This week is the hearing on SB014-015, the "Caregivers Bill" being pushed by many industry lobbyists, especially C4, and law enforcement on the assertion that patients and caregivers are faking illnesses and responsible for diversion. Yes, you read that right, I said assertion. This bill was not created on facts. We need to refine the bill making process and require facts. Industry lobbyists are ruining sound policy making in the cannabis industry in order to protect their interests. We need to establish rules that laws can only be created from facts, not assumptions. I, along with a great team of people, have worked hard to amend the bill to make it "better," but in the end, it is still infringing on constitutional rights.
On Wednesday there is a hearing on the SB15-006, a bill that requires a conviction before law enforcement can seize property, which will protect citizen's constitutional and property rights. I have been "pirated" by law enforcement before with no recourse, so I will be whole heartedly supporting this bill. We need to start reigning in law enforcement anyhow. Colorado cops have been bringing in the Feds deliberately because that enables them to circumvent state law to seize property. Talk about grey area.
We could use people at both hearings on Wednesday and Thursday at 1:30 pm.

 

[Seaf0ur]

I doubt you'll change anything about asset forfeiture... It is the gangbanger in blue, legal method of robbery... "How much money you got?" are some of the most commonly used words during police stops these days... they won't serve ya... they dont have a responsibility to protect anyone whatsoever... they won't likely fetch your cat out of a tree... they are revenue generators for their respective states... nothing more.

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On the subject of irritating local lawmakers, you know I got my kid, but hit me up if you'll be around and we'll go with ya.

 

[Avinash.miles]

i think the point is that if they raid you they dont get to cut your garden down untill AFTER you have been found guilty in court.
def trying to get out there and hang.

 

[Jhhnn]

more hearings this week concerning the caregivers and medical;

Another week, another fight against lobbyists eagerly willing to surrender morality and put people's lives on the line for the almighty $. This week is the hearing on SB014-015, the "Caregivers Bill" being pushed by many industry lobbyists, especially C4, and law enforcement on the assertion that patients and caregivers are faking illnesses and responsible for diversion. Yes, you read that right, I said assertion. This bill was not created on facts. We need to refine the bill making process and require facts. Industry lobbyists are ruining sound policy making in the cannabis industry in order to protect their interests. We need to establish rules that laws can only be created from facts, not assumptions. I, along with a great team of people, have worked hard to amend the bill to make it "better," but in the end, it is still infringing on constitutional rights.
On Wednesday there is a hearing on the SB15-006, a bill that requires a conviction before law enforcement can seize property, which will protect citizen's constitutional and property rights. I have been "pirated" by law enforcement before with no recourse, so I will be whole heartedly supporting this bill. We need to start reigning in law enforcement anyhow. Colorado cops have been bringing in the Feds deliberately because that enables them to circumvent state law to seize property. Talk about grey area.
We could use people at both hearings on Wednesday and Thursday at 1:30 pm.

I really don't understand why some in the legislature have such a giant hard-on for caregivers, who are an extremely small part of the whole scene. I feel like I'm missing something, like there's something staring right at me that I can't see.

The State is taking a wrong approach entirely. More retail growers. more competition. Outdoor growing. Drive down the price of retail & capture the whole market, squeeze small MMJ suppliers & caregivers right out of any profit. Collect taxes on all of it. No guns, no cops, no warrants. Let the little guys who survive & produce connoisseur grade have a teensy corner of the pie. Just pretend they're not there.

It's not like cannabis is illegal or like anybody will die from doing it that way.