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supbrosup

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One more question... So at lights out, the intake no longer turns on, meaning very little fresh oxygen is being brought into the room. We have exhausts going constantly, so there will be some fresh air being brought in passively, but not a lot. Do we need to supplement CO2 for lights out?

Everything is healthy and growing very fast, so I assume we are fine, but I'd hate to get to the bulking stages of flower and not have things where they should be because I didn't supplement CO2.
 

t99

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You don't need CO2 at night. No photosynthesis is taking place in the dark, so no need.
 

justiceman

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This is an epic thread. Thanks DJM! Been reading through this and h3ads to review coco as I took a break for a few years. This should definitely be a sticky.
 

supbrosup

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Hey DJM, having airflow on the intake helps A LOT. Almost no condensation now, and we will be able to add more airflow after our dehuey is installed.

Will a 110 Dual Quest be enough for a 6x12 canopy in a 8x12x7.5 room? Would it be enough for a 18x10 room and 6x18 canopy?

Any tips on installation?

Also, we aren't sealed, and the passive exhausts will be heating our house. I assume it's gonna smell pretty bad in flower... Am I gonna have to seal her up? Or just see how it goes and seal if the smell is uncontrollable?
 

DJM

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Hey DJM, having airflow on the intake helps A LOT. Almost no condensation now, and we will be able to add more airflow after our dehuey is installed.

Will a 110 Dual Quest be enough for a 6x12 canopy in a 8x12x7.5 room? Would it be enough for a 18x10 room and 6x18 canopy?

Any tips on installation?

Also, we aren't sealed, and the passive exhausts will be heating our house. I assume it's gonna smell pretty bad in flower... Am I gonna have to seal her up? Or just see how it goes and seal if the smell is uncontrollable?

there are too many variables to say if it will be strong enough, but I don't think youll have a problem with those sizes

id strongly advise against having the passive exhaust go into your house...the high levels of humidity and co2 will probably cause mold and an uncomfortable living environment...I suggest you route the passive intake outside, that's really the only right way to do it, without creating collateral damage outside of the room
 

DJM

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Hi Don, I'm reading through again. Jeeze, this thread is like a grad school course in cannabis horticulture. i get more each time i come here. I come up with a ton of questions too as I am as inexperienced as can be.

when you mention that you water as often as needed to keep the medium moist, how to you determine that? water an amount that leads to a certain amount of run off? or are there moisture sensors you can put in the medium to make that call. for example, early in the flower phase or even pre-veg phase, you don't feed as often as you do when you know your roots are pot bound. how do you know how soon is too soon or how late is too late, in terms of drying out?

i'm probably going to come back later with a question or two + about your irrigation and dosing system (dositrons, etc) but i want to finish going through the thread again to see what i can figure out.

thanks again for the thorough explanations of so many areas of culture. it's not falling on deaf ears or blind minds, i promise.

well early on i do wet and dry cycles to establish roots..i start out once every day or two at initial transplant, then work up to once a day as plant grows..i then hand feed once a day once established and once the plant needs more than that once a day I hook up drippers and multifeed them....I can tell if its too soon from the look of the coco..if its too dark it has too much water...I can tell its too late if the plant slightly wilts..the weight of the container is a tell tale sign of it needing or not needing water
 

DJM

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dude fucking amazing work.. made me rethink my entire setup.. going to be looking for those reflectors.. using those for winter grows.. and use my air cooled hoods in the summer ..

but man I need to start trellising... how big of a veg room do you use to load that up.. I'm thinkin ill just use 1 1000w on a light mover to fill my 6000w flower room. id use more than 1000w for veg. but id need to have an electrician come over to wire up another breaker and shit if I wana run more than 7000w in lights

thanks, I prefer a 1-4 ratio of lights for my veg-flower size...so i use 4kw to feed 16kw, or 6kw to feed 24 kw..but this is only to have a max of two weeks preveg after harvest in the main room before flowering again...you can get away with far less veg if you don't mind doing a longer preveg between cycles....for 6000 watts, youd want 1500, but 1000 on a light mover covering a 5x10 area would be enough, so I think youll be fine with that
 

DJM

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Fantastic work DJM. I've been lurking your thread before. But it just got my attention again. I've just been a 600w single setup guy, but might soon have a location that can support venturing into bigger projects. I'm thinking your setup kinda, 8 X 1000W flower room + 2000W veg room setup wih cooco, drippers as automated as possible for a complete newb regarding automated watering. So I might have to send a few questions you way. I really think you have your shit on ockdown with a brilliant approach to environment-approach, use of ferts and so on..So keep ip the good work

thanks sounds like a good plan, feel free to post any questions you may have here, I like to help all growers , even those with small grows..we all started somewhere
 

DJM

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and thanks for everyone recommending this thread to be a sticky...I personally could care less as long as the information gets across, and its seems to be doing so...its evident that the mods do a piss poor job of moderation now a days, that's why trolls and drama are all over the site and most people don't even bother posting on the mag anymore, so I wouldn't expect them to try and make the site better by making a thread a sticky or moderating like they use to in the hay day of icmag...id be surprised if the forums were even still moderated at all...forums are a dying format and that's why its a ghost ship these days
 

stoney917

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Sup mang instagram ruined forums but what can ya do.... The information available on forums is priceless n being replaced by pretty pics...
this thread is already a sticky hasn't left page one in yrs....
Yo dj what strains u rockin now??? Still got that African haze????
 

Hydropimp

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So your light and hood cover 5'5

Each girl gets 3.3x3.3 to cover canopy

So for an 12ft l x 9ft wide.

Would be 2 rows of 3 girls

Or 2 rows with 4 girls

With 6kw
 

DJM

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Sup mang instagram ruined forums but what can ya do.... The information available on forums is priceless n being replaced by pretty pics...
this thread is already a sticky hasn't left page one in yrs....
Yo dj what strains u rockin now??? Still got that African haze????

thanks man , I agree , I'm still loyal to the forums though

yeah I still got it, I keep 3 moms, ill never let go of that plant ,its my grail...I just pollinated 16 mothers with pollen from a reversed African haze...wish I still had that lvpk you gave me way back in the day to hit up with , that would be a sick combo

ill be running the haze mostly , indoors. but I also have some runs of GMO (chem d x gsc , stardawg x sour tangie and jack flash planned...I personally prefer to run the haze over everything , and I would, but my patients like variety and I take requests on what they would like me to grow..thankfully most prefer sativas
 

DJM

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So your light and hood cover 5'5

Each girl gets 3.3x3.3 to cover canopy

So for an 12ft l x 9ft wide.

Would be 2 rows of 3 girls

Or 2 rows with 4 girls

With 6kw

in a 12 x 9 , i would run 12 plants, 3 rows of 4 under 6kw...but since you can only do 3x3 per plant, id flip them a little sooner and maybe go with 3-4 gals of coco instead of 5s so you can be sure the pots aren't to large in relation to plant size

I'm working on a new project now where I'm doing a very similar layout...I have 4 - 10x15' rooms, 6kw in each, with 12 plants per room in 3 rows of 4...3 are flower and 1 veg...I have them perpetually staggered to flip and harvest one room every 21 days
 
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