CMH vs LED vs HPS

[snakedope]

Not willing to put you down my dear friend, the lavender, the garlic, I bet there's more studies and tests done as we speak, I bet they all will say the same thing, nothing new under the sun, we knew this from the get go.
Also here people rave about the new smoke and genetics, even though hardcore smokers know it's shit, so people reviews are nothing
No one can even remember what's the smoke was like 4-5 years ago, they just forgot.
It's really getting to a point you can't know if people are biased or just plain stupid (talking about the people who smoke in my country, not you)
99% of the time it's just ego, my bud is the best, I bought a lame led and my bud is still the best, it's awkward.
We used to know we need to sacrifice heat and light in order to get out as much as we can from this plants
Now they just grow them comfortably, no heat, no light stress, no nothing, and you get what you paid for, nothing.
If you got good results and your clients love it, I don't see any reason to change even with a 100 studies saying otherwise.
Reality is stronger then any study, keep growing that bud, I always told you it looks killer

 

[CannaT]

I dont have lame results and as ive stated before, both cannabinoid and terp tests are higher. Client reviews are also raving how things are stronger and taste better than before the switch. So ill need literally any study that is applicable to cannabis that proves your theory. So far ive annihilated all your theories. All stalk no cap, trichomes dont turn amber, less terps, less thc all that bs is out the window. Just because someone posted a study about garlic wont convince me that all my client reviews and personal tests are bogus, sorry, im not an idiot. You tend to hear one thing that fits your narrative and run with it, rather than proving it without any shadow of a doubt. Im a very thorough person, as you can tell. I will happily continue to debate and be respectful as long as you do the same. Also, as ive mentioned before, they ARE more intense because they fill an equal space with more photons. You absolutely can total them, because the plants main driver is light, measure in ppfd, which is higher under led. Thats both science AND reality lol.

Terps will never have pungent smell like sulfure compounds.And sulfure compounds will get you even higher eat some garlic and do you feel stoned ?
When you open your Jar you sense sulfure compounds...when you put your nose in jar you will smell terps.

From distance super skunk and sour diesel smell the same. Difference is when you put your nose in jar.

As I said with leds at hot air temps I have the same pungent smell like I have with hids....
But if someone grow with leds in cold temps or regular hps temps....it can be good grown but far away from perfection or full potential of cut.

@snakedope did you know that first company that made leds lights in world is Monsanto ?
Need to spark you up more

 

[snakedope]

Terps will never have pungent smell like sulfure compounds.And sulfure compounds will get you even higher eat some garlic and do you feel stoned ?
When you open your Jar you sense sulfure compounds...when you put your nose in jar you will smell terps.

From distance super skunk and sour diesel smell the same. Difference is when you put your nose in jar.

As I said with leds at hot air temps I have the same pungent smell like I have with hids....
But if someone grow with leds in cold temps or regular hps temps....it can be good grown but far away from perfection or full potential of cut.

@snakedope did you know that first company that made leds lights in world is Monsanto ?
Need to spark you up more

Now you did it
When there's smoke there's fire my friend

 

[JKD]

Has everyone already read this study?

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsomega.1c04196

Is it feasible to specifically include these compounds in your regular testing @Crooked8 ?

 

[CannaT]

Now you did it
When there's smoke there's fire my friend

Then, in 1972, M. George Craford, while working at Monsanto, used one red and one green diode to create a pale yellow light. Craford also invented an LED that was about ten times brighter than Holonyak's. Monsanto became the first company to mass produce LED lights.

 

[Vegg69guerilla]

an awful lot of talk fella...and your theories completely stink of pure shit but each to their own eh?

 

[Vegg69guerilla]

I dont have lame results and as ive stated before, both cannabinoid and terp tests are higher. Client reviews are also raving how things are stronger and taste better than before the switch. So ill need literally any study that is applicable to cannabis that proves your theory. So far ive annihilated all your theories. All stalk no cap, trichomes dont turn amber, less terps, less thc all that bs is out the window. Just because someone posted a study about garlic wont convince me that all my client reviews and personal tests are bogus, sorry, im not an idiot. You tend to hear one thing that fits your narrative and run with it, rather than proving it without any shadow of a doubt. Im a very thorough person, as you can tell. I will happily continue to debate and be respectful as long as you do the same. Also, as ive mentioned before, they ARE more intense because they fill an equal space with more photons. You absolutely can total them, because the plants main driver is light, measure in ppfd, which is higher under led. Thats both science AND reality lol.

twat...lool

 

[JKD]

I don’t think there’s any amount of evidence that will settle this. Not pictures, not test results, not even samples.
Who hasn’t met someone who can whitey for an hour on your sofa and then straight after tell you to your face your weed isn’t that good? They’re out there.

 

[Crooked8]

twat...lool

Youre great, the punchline joke of a grower in this thread. As insignificant as they come.

 

[snakedope]

I don’t think there’s any amount of evidence that will settle this. Not pictures, not test results, not even samples.
Who hasn’t met someone who can whitey for an hour on your sofa and then straight after tell you to your face your weed isn’t that good? They’re out there.

Yeah and too many factors all around are making it very hard like tumblers, Industrial dryers, early harvesting, poor genetics and poor growing...

 

[Vegg69guerilla]

Youre great, the punchline joke of a grower in this thread. As insignificant as they come.

bless...lool

 

[Vegg69guerilla]

I think you led guys bitch all the time because deep down you know the truth but are going with your head and not your heart ..lolol...led systems might shine these amazing spectrums of light that surpass all scientific light sources to date but what are they are lacking as one prime example?...the radiant heat..the same radiant heat you try to replicate outdoors..a warm sunny day is what your are trying to achieve indoors,not correct light spectrum led with no energy to excite a plants existence with little heat..its not a replication of a seeds true existence if you really think on it..led has it wrong because its just not enough heat energy emitted with that light source to replicate the aura surrounding hps..it encompasses a leaf and feeds vigour like I've seen on no other system..and then you could start a debate on the properties the high gives on leds compared to hps..I've grown many strains yrs ago under cfl and was always put off by the end result..the high just never seemed there and distant..under hps lighting something happens..I don't know what but something just shows in the high and levels of potency were always more profound and distinctive..you think I'm in here digging personal I'm not..I've seen this led craze take over and yrs later everyone skitzing out on why we losing terp values and highs?....er hello..is somebody the duck out there or am I living this scheme alone..lol...we are losing highs the world over and I believe a contributory factoring is the change in the industry to clean and tidy high energy high wastage light systems that actually emit as close as possible indoor to a beautiful sunny day you can recieve in hps yet the world wanders on like lemmings trusting this bullshit science..its just not releasing the terp profiles prevalent to being accustomed to the terp values of old...and you can get hounded like a dog for stating this to ppl in open forums but I'm stating a beautiful warm sunny day is what you are not replicating and this is why these weird head highs turn up on leds..you unlock a mere portion of the plants true value and potency..but a load of member graphs and dialogue will probably follow this post stating I'm chatting complete bollocks..I'm here speaking reality and I will prove in worth that leds are not to be trusted in revealing the true powers of cannabis!°°°

 

[Corpselover Fat]

I could fire up my old 600w hps anytime i wanted to. But I don't.

 

[snakedope]

Maybe it's worth trying good phenos you found under led in that HPS, just saying...

 

[Crooked8]

I think you led guys bitch all the time because deep down you know the truth but are going with your head and not your heart ..lolol...led systems might shine these amazing spectrums of light that surpass all scientific light sources to date but what are they are lacking as one prime example?...the radiant heat..the same radiant heat you try to replicate outdoors..a warm sunny day is what your are trying to achieve indoors,not correct light spectrum led with no energy to excite a plants existence with little heat..its not a replication of a seeds true existence if you really think on it..led has it wrong because its just not enough heat energy emitted with that light source to replicate the aura surrounding hps..it encompasses a leaf and feeds vigour like I've seen on no other system..and then you could start a debate on the properties the high gives on leds compared to hps..I've grown many strains yrs ago under cfl and was always put off by the end result..the high just never seemed there and distant..under hps lighting something happens..I don't know what but something just shows in the high and levels of potency were always more profound and distinctive..you think I'm in here digging personal I'm not..I've seen this led craze take over and yrs later everyone skitzing out on why we losing terp values and highs?....er hello..is somebody the duck out there or am I living this scheme alone..lol...we are losing highs the world over and I believe a contributory factoring is the change in the industry to clean and tidy high energy high wastage light systems that actually emit as close as possible indoor to a beautiful sunny day you can recieve in hps yet the world wanders on like lemmings trusting this bullshit science..its just not releasing the terp profiles prevalent to being accustomed to the terp values of old...and you can get hounded like a dog for stating this to ppl in open forums but I'm stating a beautiful warm sunny day is what you are not replicating and this is why these weird head highs turn up on leds..you unlock a mere portion of the plants true value and potency..but a load of member graphs and dialogue will probably follow this post stating I'm chatting complete bollocks..I'm here speaking reality and I will prove in worth that leds are not to be trusted in revealing the true powers of cannabis!°°°

Great story

 

[Corpselover Fat]

Maybe it's worth trying good phenos you found under led in that HPS, just saying...

Nah. No point.

 

[Crooked8]

Nah. No point.

Why go back in time? This is like someone asking you to go back to a nokia bar phone.

 

[JKD]

Rosy retrospection

 

[Corpselover Fat]

Why go back in time? This is like someone asking you to go back to a nokia bar phone.

Kind of, lol. The bud quality was pretty much the same, but led bud is more dense for me. I have friends who still grow under hps so I get to sample some hps grown too. The candy kush I grew came to me from a hps grower (who btw changed their other tent to led and and seems to like it).

I like white light. I can see the plants much better than under hps. Cmh was white too and I liked that about it. What I really enjoy about leds vs hid is that it's so much nicer to work under because it's not scorching my arms. I also like that the whole thing is barely warm. I feel much more confident leaving it on by itself in my tent. I enjoy growing more with leds.

 

[JKD]

^Don’t miss the odd burn from working around 600W vertical bare lamps that’s for sure.