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CMH vs LED vs HPS

smirnoff420

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And here we see lm301b compared to the sun and hps. Samsung says it's "sun like" well... I dunno. The spectrums are also capped off at 800 so the sun spectrum just stops abruptly in the pic.

Bridegelux Thrive LEDs come pretty close to natural sunlight, they managed to get rid of the cyan/green gap most white LEDs suffer from:
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Hammerhead

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You guys really believe in these charts put out by the product's own manufacturer?
Until an independent test is done there is nothing else any could look at. I can only speak for myself and I would rather see an independent test.

Does Samsung misrepresent their tests ?.
 

Corpselover Fat

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Are you people talking about the samsung spectrum charts? Yes. Of course they are (reasonably) accurate. Every single diode is tested after manufacture and binned by the luminous flux, colour accuracy etc. The diodes are then sold for varying prices. Companies making nice lighting fixturea (not even talking about grow lights here) do not want their diodes to be of different colour and luminosity. A shit grow light company buys the cheapest lowest bin diodes of course and claims they have the same specs as the top bin diodes.
 

JKD

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YellowCanary showed at the start of this thread the "real" led spectrum, and it's not like they claim, who to believe ?
Not YellowCanary because if that chart were correct the light would be blurple, not white.
 
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Hammerhead

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If any top diode company lied about their tests they would lose more than they gain in doing that. I'm sure all off brands of low quality fixtures lie about their specs regularly.

That cheap led I got works perfectly flowering males or reversing females. Their spectrum chart is prob BS but it seems to work perfectly. This is what they sent.. 1st pic is the spectrum from their fixture with no remote. 2nd pic is with the remote .. Very different spectrums the only difference is a remote controller lol.
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RobertFripp

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Samsung has had a new diode out since last year. Its the EVO 301H, and is 435nm vs 450nm.

I ordered 2 Mammoth 880w Mint White Series LED not long ago.
880w x 2713umol. 3752 Diodes. 435nm-730nm.
The Mammoth has a Kelvin Rating of 4826k


435 nm chip in the LM301H Evo​

With the LM301H Evo, a small revolution in plant lighting awaits us, because for the first time a composition of LED chip and phosphor has been developed especially for plant lighting. At its core is a short-wave 435 nm LED, which is used as a "photon pump" instead of the usual 450 nm.
Currently, five different spectra are offered:
  • Classic colour temperatures: 3000K, 4000K, 5000K, 6500K
  • Special phosphor blend: Mint White
435 nm pump

LM301H Evo Mint White​

Ultimately, the latter is indeed revolutionary because it focuses on the blue and green-yellow range with a reduced red component. This takes into account the fact that for the red spectrum there are clearly more efficient alternatives. Modern 660 nm 730nm LEDs achieve over 4 µmol/J, as they run without a phosphor conversion and associated losses.


While there may be thers the only manufacturers Ive seen using these new Diodes is Mammoth, and HLG on their Scorpion Diablo. Ive not researched it heavily.

Alkso the Mammoth 880w is 2713ppf vs 700w 2121ppf for the HLG.

And the Mammoth is $300 USD cheaper.
 
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