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gorilla ganja
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I'm hoping they'll be winners too. Definitely appealing to the eyes for sure.
I'm glad to have been of help. My prior mistakes are helping you avoid the very same ones.
With such long flowering times were afforded many chances to do wrong. May no harm come to your fine ladies.
What type you got going right now? Lets see em
I only do outdoors. And my season came to abrupt end with snow up here already. I have frozen many a sativa trying to find something that will finish at extreme northern latitudes.
Check my signature out to see some of my outdoor this year. I will warn you it's not pretty and there were many casualties. These where indica strains from Ace.
Next year if things go right I may be able to grow some sativas indoors and the knowledge that you share we be invaluable.
Peace GG
Shit Haze Flowering Update Day 95 flowering
Shit Haze Flowering Update Day 95 flowering
117 days from seed. Things are getting close to the end for a couple of ladies. Two of the shithaze ladies began throwing more nanners as we got closer to the century mark, so now they've been moved into my hanging closet. Two days worth of darkness then I'll be cutting the bulk of them down. I may reveg what's left if possible for another run.
The lady to be seen in these pics is furthest along in bud development. I still feel like she needed another week but I'm pretty happy with her. Pistils have shriveled up nicely with the calyxes swelling up very plump. I like to wait till the pistils shrivel up alot. I don't like my buds fuzzy.
I'll update on her smell later on when I whack her down. Being 75% skunk you better believe she is RIPE though.
Not sure what to expect from yield but I'm anxious to see the weight on the dried main cola. I'll be comparing to the other 3 ladies to help decide which ones get a reveg run.
Throughout flowering all she got was dyna grow 7-9-5. Using only that I was able to maintain leaf health pretty deep into flowering before lowering fertility levels lead to nutrient deficiencies appearing. The bulk of flower production was done by this point so I simply maintained ppm levels in the media from 650-1100 while the buds underwent the final stage of 'ripening'.
Shit Haze Flowering Update Day 95 flowering
117 days from seed. Things are getting close to the end for a couple of ladies. Two of the shithaze ladies began throwing more nanners as we got closer to the century mark, so now they've been moved into my hanging closet. Two days worth of darkness then I'll be cutting the bulk of them down. I may reveg what's left if possible for another run.
The lady to be seen in these pics is furthest along in bud development. I still feel like she needed another week but I'm pretty happy with her. Pistils have shriveled up nicely with the calyxes swelling up very plump. I like to wait till the pistils shrivel up alot. I don't like my buds fuzzy.
I'll update on her smell later on when I whack her down. Being 75% skunk you better believe she is RIPE though.
Not sure what to expect from yield but I'm anxious to see the weight on the dried main cola. I'll be comparing to the other 3 ladies to help decide which ones get a reveg run.
Throughout flowering all she got was dyna grow 7-9-5. Using only that I was able to maintain leaf health pretty deep into flowering before lowering fertility levels lead to nutrient deficiencies appearing. The bulk of flower production was done by this point so I simply maintained ppm levels in the media from 650-1100 while the buds underwent the final stage of 'ripening'.
Shithaze update continued
Shithaze update continued
This is the other lady sitting in the dark awaiting the axe. Not quite as far along as the previous one in terms of bud development but good enough to bring down now. She was sporting nanners too much for my liking so I had to remove her a lil early.
Still looks quite nice.
Shithaze update continued
This is the other lady sitting in the dark awaiting the axe. Not quite as far along as the previous one in terms of bud development but good enough to bring down now. She was sporting nanners too much for my liking so I had to remove her a lil early.
Still looks quite nice.
Your too kind Tang. Too kind. Truth be told, I get pretty lazy with my garden at times, too often. I imagine Im not alone in that regard. Somehow I still manage to produce some nice looking plants, but I know I could be treating those ladies better and get even greater results. Im typically caring for 30 plants at any given time so I kinda end up neglecting some along the way.
Thank you blumats and osmocote! Without them caring for the plants really does become a chore. Im thinking of trying out Capillary mats and osmocote instead as Ive had some run-off issues with blumats lately and they're more complicated than a cap-mat. Ive been wanting to try it out for awhile, but I suppose putting it into writing means I have to now put it into action. Ill post updates on how it goes. It could work out well for other gardens if anyone is curious.
Back to the DurbanThai hybrid, Ive got a recent pic I snapped of my chunkiest one just a few days ago I want to share. I think you'll be impressed. Also a few pretty leaf shots of the other DP-E clone thats in flowering. I know you got a crush on those Durbans.
If you think these colas could get huge, wait till I grow out the seeds of TSG x DPC(true male). TSG produced the huge massive cola that was over 2 feet long and wide as a 1 liter bottle if not bigger. Imagine if I ever get to run her outdoors!!! There are going to be some big colas in those seeds in addition to the hybrid vigor which predominately leads to larger colas, ime.
52 Days Flowering 11/13, 78 Days from seed. This is my chunky monkey of the group. The largest buds and fastest flowering so far, but I think the two sativa dominant ones will end up being pretty large by the end if I can keep them fed, but they're experiencing low N symptoms right now as Ive underestimated they're feeding needs. This pictured lady(chunky monkey) measured 390 ppm when I measured tonight!Thats extremely low but she barely showed any signs of low fertility levels aside from torched leaf tips. Got some dialing in to do with these ladies thats for sure, but thats what the first run is for. They'll look even better on a second and third run. I hope you'll all stay tuned for that.
Heres a shot of DP-D up front, DPE behind her, Shithaze on the right. These next few pics really show the fall colors the leaves produce as N levels drop and night time temps drop into the low 60s. I do hope the hybrid plants exhibit this same trait as well. Some purple buds couldn't help either.
Green leaves on the right is from the Durban Thai Hybrid Sat dominant lady, who is N deprived atm. Hungry feeders theyve become.
Ive been known to get a little overzealous with feeding, but lately Ive tried to err on the side of caution and keep feed levels lower in early flower. Worked well allowing all but 1 of the Hybrids to kick into flowering without any delayed response from too much N. Now Im contending with hungry ass ladies who are demanding multiple hand-feedings a week, but thats a good thing. That'll lead to a bumper crop.
Thanks for following along and joining in. Id use the tiphat emoji here, but ive reached my picture limit. This damn picture limit is so enfuriating. I feel like charlie brown trying to kick the football right now! Damn you Lucy!!!!
Snow already wtf?? I just had a day with 80f sweating my ass off. Id kill for some cool crips autumn air, but not as cold as what you're experiencing.
Ill pop open your thread and take a looksie. How much time is your window for sativas up there? I think 3 months is going to be the bare minimum you'll need to get any kind of decent results with these long flowering ladies. Id love something that quick in these durban thai hybirds, but Im thinking at best 3.5-4 months.
I do hope you'll get to run them indoors. You'll find it so much easier if you can provide a hospitable environment. Make sure to get yourself some suction lysimeters and a good EC meter. Plants that take 4-6 months to flower require intense long-term care to get the best results. If you fuck up by month 1 or 2, well you've fucked up for the rest of the way. They require alot of maintenance until bud production has reached its peak, and then you can let them coast to the end yellowing some along the way.
I could probably write for days on how to care for long flowering sativas, but I may end up sounding like a know it all asshole if I did, so Ill let you ask any questions you have about caring for them. hehe
Durban Thai Hybrid
Durban Thai Hybrid
Who here likes big sexy green fan leaves? I know I do. Hubba Hubba.
She's fine and she knows it.
Heres a different Durban Thai hybrid lady that leans more towards the Thai side of the cross, but will have some nice spears by the end of flowering. Oh 2 more months at least and then we'll reevaulate.
Durban Thai Hybrid
Who here likes big sexy green fan leaves? I know I do. Hubba Hubba.
She's fine and she knows it.
Heres a different Durban Thai hybrid lady that leans more towards the Thai side of the cross, but will have some nice spears by the end of flowering. Oh 2 more months at least and then we'll reevaulate.
gorilla ganja
Well-known member
Great looking ladies as always Dave. Love the colors coming though in the leaves on some of them.
That's about my total growing season. 3.5-4 months. Some sativas as you know need that just for flowering. I have tried many faster flowering sativas as well. But believe it or not the short season is not the main problem up here. I have grown some 10 ft girls in that short season.
The main difficulty with growing most MJ up here is the long daylight hrs. Well really it's the short nights that prevent flowering.My longest day, summer solstice , is about 17 hrs of light plus twilight so approx. 18- 19 hrs of light. By the time we get to 12 hrs of light in Sept. I am days or weeks away from killing frosts depending on the year . There are a lot of hybrids that will start to flower at about 14.5 hrs of light which only leaves me approx. 6 weeks of flowering time with cool weather. So even indica strains can have a hard time to finish. And that's why most pure sativas don't stand a chance up here outdoors. I am working on some auto sativas so I can get something close.
Didn't mean to hijack your thread, but I love to talk about the science behind flowering.
If and when I grow some sativas indoors I will probably have a million questions for you. Well maybe only half a million questions as you've already answered a bunch in this thread.
Peace GG
That's about my total growing season. 3.5-4 months. Some sativas as you know need that just for flowering. I have tried many faster flowering sativas as well. But believe it or not the short season is not the main problem up here. I have grown some 10 ft girls in that short season.
The main difficulty with growing most MJ up here is the long daylight hrs. Well really it's the short nights that prevent flowering.My longest day, summer solstice , is about 17 hrs of light plus twilight so approx. 18- 19 hrs of light. By the time we get to 12 hrs of light in Sept. I am days or weeks away from killing frosts depending on the year . There are a lot of hybrids that will start to flower at about 14.5 hrs of light which only leaves me approx. 6 weeks of flowering time with cool weather. So even indica strains can have a hard time to finish. And that's why most pure sativas don't stand a chance up here outdoors. I am working on some auto sativas so I can get something close.
Didn't mean to hijack your thread, but I love to talk about the science behind flowering.
If and when I grow some sativas indoors I will probably have a million questions for you. Well maybe only half a million questions as you've already answered a bunch in this thread.
Peace GG
Allow me to wipe away those years.
*wipe* *wipe* All better now. Heh. Thanks ayatayo. Glad you like em. For the first run of any plant I like to let them do their natural thing. On later runs ill be bending, tying, cropping, topping as much as needed to get an even canopy and greater yield.
Nutrient Deficiencies on Durban Thai Hybrid
Nutrient Deficiencies on Durban Thai Hybrid
Not everything goes to plan in my garden. This is one of them. I mentioned before the yellowing on two of these ladies, and I snapped some pics to further illustrate it.
It's been around 2 months flowering began and half the ladies, the two stretchy ones are yellowing the fastest. Meanwhile the more Durban dominant two are still a very healthy shade of green. Although I can see the lowest large fan leaf set is beginning to progress from green to chlorotic green and will eventually yellow. Got to nip it in the bud if I want some humongous buds from her.
Ppm levels in media have been as low as 300 recently In both groups. Through back to back hand feedings at 450 pm has brought it up to 450 and 510 in the media. Only two plants installed with lysimeter. Now 3 after inserting another just now into the other Thai dominant ones. Looking to slowly raise it back up to 1k-1.25k ppm.
I've upped the res to 250 ppm to compensate. I can't handwater daily without killing off roothairs and I don't want to feed at a high ppm with these sensitive ladies.
I believe the difference in yellowing can be greatly attributed to the stretchy ones being closer to the lights. Increased PAR leading to more N being translocated to the upper growth resulting in a rapid onset of N deficiency if the media ppm isn't maintained. I can't imagine the higher leaf temperatures on them help either.
I'll get it turned around and slow down the N deficiency soon enough.
Nutrient Deficiencies on Durban Thai Hybrid
Not everything goes to plan in my garden. This is one of them. I mentioned before the yellowing on two of these ladies, and I snapped some pics to further illustrate it.
It's been around 2 months flowering began and half the ladies, the two stretchy ones are yellowing the fastest. Meanwhile the more Durban dominant two are still a very healthy shade of green. Although I can see the lowest large fan leaf set is beginning to progress from green to chlorotic green and will eventually yellow. Got to nip it in the bud if I want some humongous buds from her.
Ppm levels in media have been as low as 300 recently In both groups. Through back to back hand feedings at 450 pm has brought it up to 450 and 510 in the media. Only two plants installed with lysimeter. Now 3 after inserting another just now into the other Thai dominant ones. Looking to slowly raise it back up to 1k-1.25k ppm.
I've upped the res to 250 ppm to compensate. I can't handwater daily without killing off roothairs and I don't want to feed at a high ppm with these sensitive ladies.
I believe the difference in yellowing can be greatly attributed to the stretchy ones being closer to the lights. Increased PAR leading to more N being translocated to the upper growth resulting in a rapid onset of N deficiency if the media ppm isn't maintained. I can't imagine the higher leaf temperatures on them help either.
I'll get it turned around and slow down the N deficiency soon enough.
Kushman201
Member
Keep your head up and do your best! They look great
ShitHaze Update
ShitHaze Update
The first two shithaze that came down have now been trimmed up and jarred. Drying time took around 8 days before final trim. The stink sticks around much better if you get that nice slow dry with r.h. 60-65%. Stinky and sticky. Just the way I like em.
Yield wasn't much as as I did no training to improve numbers. The main colas were 9.3 grams and 10.3 respectively. Lower growth chipped in maybe another 5-8grams, so no heavy yielders between these two, but I'm very satisfied with the end product.
I've got two more to bring down tonight that have had 2-3 weeks more flowering time. I'll snap some pics of them to share later tonight.
Time for some pics now.
What do you do when the colas are too long for the jar? Get a smaller mason jar to go over the top that sits down into the larger one. Still get a good seal and the buds have remained at an excellent moisture content. I've since turned the cola around so the stem sits in the bottom and bud raises out of the jar. Sadly I've consumed enough that neither needs the jar-toppers anymore.
ShitHaze Update
The first two shithaze that came down have now been trimmed up and jarred. Drying time took around 8 days before final trim. The stink sticks around much better if you get that nice slow dry with r.h. 60-65%. Stinky and sticky. Just the way I like em.
Yield wasn't much as as I did no training to improve numbers. The main colas were 9.3 grams and 10.3 respectively. Lower growth chipped in maybe another 5-8grams, so no heavy yielders between these two, but I'm very satisfied with the end product.
I've got two more to bring down tonight that have had 2-3 weeks more flowering time. I'll snap some pics of them to share later tonight.
Time for some pics now.
What do you do when the colas are too long for the jar? Get a smaller mason jar to go over the top that sits down into the larger one. Still get a good seal and the buds have remained at an excellent moisture content. I've since turned the cola around so the stem sits in the bottom and bud raises out of the jar. Sadly I've consumed enough that neither needs the jar-toppers anymore.
Shithaze update continued
Shithaze update continued
Shithaze update continued
Thanks for joining in kushman and the good wishes.
I'm gonna do right by these ladies if I have to tend to them ever night, which I'm currently doing. Feeding time for these hungry girls right now. Back to work now.
ExoticsRus
Active member
Man those genes are looking good, Keep it coming
Durban x Thai mini update
Durban x Thai mini update
Hey gang, I'm back for a quick update.
Currently we have 3 remaining hybrid plants going. I eliminated the nutrient sensitive one, and moved one of the taller more sativa dominant ladies into harvest closet due to multiple nanners popping up.
That one will still provide some decent buds suitable for cobbing. The other ladies still need a month or two before being ready.
The Durban influence definitely speeds up the flowering development. Long sticky smelly buds forming quicker than I imagined.
I'm very happy with how these 3 are developing and I can't wait too see what other treats I'll find when I start to run larger numbers of Durban poison male x gn thai stick. That day will soon come.
Now a few pics of these pretty ladies.
Durban x Thai mini update
Hey gang, I'm back for a quick update.
Currently we have 3 remaining hybrid plants going. I eliminated the nutrient sensitive one, and moved one of the taller more sativa dominant ladies into harvest closet due to multiple nanners popping up.
That one will still provide some decent buds suitable for cobbing. The other ladies still need a month or two before being ready.
The Durban influence definitely speeds up the flowering development. Long sticky smelly buds forming quicker than I imagined.
I'm very happy with how these 3 are developing and I can't wait too see what other treats I'll find when I start to run larger numbers of Durban poison male x gn thai stick. That day will soon come.
Now a few pics of these pretty ladies.
Thanks tang buddy.
Indeed a nice combination of the two. The pairing has produced 3 different bud structures among the remaining ones. Each equally beautiful in their own ways.
Would it please you to know the buds on 2 of 3 hybrids are going purple?!!!!!
Albeit lights off temps are in the low 60's. Nonetheless they are turning out to be something gorgeous.
Let's check a few of them out now. Errrr soon as I can get them uploaded ..
