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[Dave Coulier]

Just some Thai Ladies hanging out. Day 35/ Week 5

Just some Thai Ladies hanging out. Day 35/ Week 5

 

[ReikoX]

Beautiful as ever Dave. A buddy of mine gave me some Durban that was green and clearly not ripe yet. No wonder he said it was a low yielder.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Beautiful as ever Dave. A buddy of mine gave me some Durban that was green and clearly not ripe yet. No wonder he said it was a low yielder.

Thanks ReikoX. Expect some more pretty ladies soon. Ill be working through some more Thai pics to upload later today.

These Durbans can put out some decent yield if given the time to flower. I wouldn't be surprised if your sample was taken after the first flush of pistils. Patience is a virtue with Mary Jane. After growing these Thai, I find it easy to wait an extra week or more to see if my ladies are gonna bulk up any more before I chop them. Sometimes they'll surprise you with a second wave of flowering when you never expected it.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Day 35/Week 5 Thai Stick Update

Day 35/Week 5 Thai Stick Update

Hey gang, Ive got some free time today so Ive been going through my Thai pics getting them ready for this update. These are from the 18th. More of the Thai pics I posted a teaser for before. Ive also snapped some pics last night so we can all see the progress over the last 10 days together.

This is only the second time Ive gotten to run all 4 females at the same time. The last time, I over did the nutrition on TSF, and decided to cull her when I saw the delayed flowering response and how significant it was. This time around, I think Ive found a good level of feed for all the ladies. None show any signs of delayed flowering, and all are flowering faster than I ever expected for only Day 35. I had to go back and look in the thread for the exact day I put them into flower. I previously thought I was closer to 45 Days when I made the last update. Ooops. I blame mj for the poor judgement in time passing.

Each time Ive flowered out these ladies, they get faster and faster to kick into flower, and even finish faster. I can't wait to see how these progress over the next 4 months. Should be fun. Ill really try to get more updates of these ladies so we can see a really good progression of them throughout flowering. This is my best opportunity with all 4 ladies doing very well right now. I can't blow it for you all!

In terms of what Im feeding them. Its 6grams of Osmocote/gallon of media, and the Res was set at 150ppm for the first 5 weeks, but since upped it to 200ppm as Im experiencing some lower leaf loss. Leaves yellowing and becoming crinkly as the plant extracts everything of value from it. Classic N def, but can't confirm because Im having trouble getting soil solution extractions lately. Ill try to confirm tonight.

Now for some pics everybody.

This is Thai Stick G. The heaviest yielder of all my 4 ladies, or is she? Remember TSF has yet to be flowered out fully. I can't wait to see how the buds all compare at the end of flowering!

 

[Dave Coulier]

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Dave amazingly lush plants, I cant believe they are grown indoors, you are doing something right.
Have you ever thought of using STS or CS to produce female seeds?
The Durban would be a great female seed producer.
Tangwena

 

[Thcvhunter]

I love seeing those doible-serrated thai leaves.
Truly, Nature's artwork

 

[Dave Coulier]

Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick G Day 44 Update

Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick G Day 44 Update

Hey gang, its time for an update on Thai Stick G. I snapped these pics 9 days after the last set of pics. I know I said 10 day updates, but I was so impressed with her growth in those 9 days, I had to snap some pics a day early, but Im late with the update. Didn't work out as Id planned..Doh! So lets get to it.

Here she is from nearly 10 days ago..

Now she's grown so much, I had to snap 3 pics of her to get a full profile.

So far, so good. TSG is really healthy and green from top to bottom with those nice luscious leaves Tang loves so much. Im a sucker for nice lush leaves too. Now lets see if I can maintain them over the next 3-4 months.

She's gotten taller than Id like, so Ill need to do something about trying to tie down the branches soon. Even under MH, Ill still get yellowing of the upper canopy if the branches get too close to the lights. None yet though. If I can keep those fan leaves healthy and green for a long time I should be able to make alot of cobs, and fill quite a few jason jars at the end. Wish me luck everyone!

Also It looks like I may end up with some Durban x Thai stick Seeds at the end of this crop of Thai. Ive found a few seeds developing on some of the ladies, and its no doubt from the nanner pollen from DP E & F I had flowering next to them. They've both been moved to my flower tent in another room to finish off for a couple more weeks before Ill chop them. Update in the future on those two soon as well.

That's enough about TSG, next up TSA.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Day 44 Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick A Update

Day 44 Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick A Update

Now we get to showcase Thai Stick A. She's the one I took to 31 weeks earlier in the thread as a seed plant. The first clone I harvested of her came down at 145 Days/21 weeks. Big difference in time between harvests, as I waited too long to harvest the first plant. I expect this plant to be ready around 150 Days this time too. We will find out together soon enough.

Later on she will have a very strong pine scent for my nose to enjoy. Im not a big fan of the strong pine taste, but still a pleasure to smoke.

 

[Koondense]

Gorgeous and healthy plants, congrats.
Now let's wait

 

[Dr.King]

Always a pleasure to see your updates Dave, great job. I'm confident you'll be able to tame them an keep em green, did last run imo . I'm running some Zamals on 12/12 this round and they stretched a insane amount compared to 11/13. I have found that they can get within 6 inches of my HPS(cool tube) or 4 inches under my Leds before they burn if I have fans blowing at all corners of my tents. Zamals are twice as big already compared to the 11/13 harvest in my Albums. It's only week 5 day 4 and the Zamals still have 5 weeks left. Guessing you got fans right next to all your long stretched flowering tops? Really does help keep them green and also not curl any from the heat.

Best of luck Dave.

 

[shakesignal]

Hi Dave, thank you so much for posting this insanely thorough report! Much more stamina than I have, for sure. I managed to wrangle some Gypsy/Ace Thai Stick, got them vegging, and waiting a bit to do second/final top so I can flip those girls(?). Have you noticed any droopiness pushback from a 16/8 veg light schedule?

I flipped one girl without topping, just to get the ball rolling, and she is vibrant! My other girls not as much. I'm currently feeling my way around their watering requirements (very light by my estimation) and working out some nute issues. But they are finicky, as one would expect. My theory is that they are used to a 11-13 hour natural sunlight period, and step in line once you flip.

I forget; did you top or train at all?

 

[Dave Coulier]

Day 44 Thai Stick F Update

Day 44 Thai Stick F Update

Hey Gang, thanks for chiming in while I was away. Ill reply to you all as soon as I can, but I want to get some overdue Thai Stick updates out of the way first. To help that, as soon as I got home tonight, I puffed some Thai Stick G to help me get focused and motivated to take care of my garden and get to this over due update on Thai Stick F. The seed plant never made it past 65 days into flowering before I culled her, and were quickly approaching that point now with the clone.

This plant at 44 days is light years ahead of the seed plant at Day 60. The seed plant had just begun flowering at Day 60 under 11/13, while this clone began flowering in about a month. What an improvement! Maybe the 3rd run of her will come in even faster. Im on the third run of the other 3 Thai Stick ladies already, so Ill be able to get a good idea if there is still room for improvement in due time.

To anyone who has stuck around from Seed to this 3rd Run of the Thai... And if you didn't stick around, maybe you'll come back to see what they'll finally look at the end of their 3rd run. It'll only be 3-4 months more. Thank you everyone who joined us during the thread. I hope you'll stick around to the end too.

Here is the little lady halfway through January. Such a delicate little thing. My how she has grown!

My look how she has grown.

Oh, and I had to top this lady multiple times 2 or 3 weeks into flowering to help keep her from growing too tall. I should have topped another time a week later me thinks. She's gotten tall and some of the branches are near the height of the lights at this point.

These Thai are incredibly vigorous.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Hope you all enjoyed this update. Just one more Thai Stick update to go.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Gorgeous and healthy plants, congrats.
Now let's wait

Glad you like em KD. They've really been impressing me this round, but thats only possible if I stay on top of their care. I can't fuck things up this close to the finish line. I got this.

Im very good at the waiting game, but anyone following this thread would have to be good too hehe. We wont have to wait too much longer everyone. Seed to harvest, and clone/reveg to harvest x 3 within 2 years doesn't seem so bad I suppose.

Always a pleasure to see your updates Dave, great job. I'm confident you'll be able to tame them an keep em green, did last run imo . I'm running some Zamals on 12/12 this round and they stretched a insane amount compared to 11/13. I have found that they can get within 6 inches of my HPS(cool tube) or 4 inches under my Leds before they burn if I have fans blowing at all corners of my tents. Zamals are twice as big already compared to the 11/13 harvest in my Albums. It's only week 5 day 4 and the Zamals still have 5 weeks left. Guessing you got fans right next to all your long stretched flowering tops? Really does help keep them green and also not curl any from the heat.

Best of luck Dave.

Good to know you're still with us Dr. King. I dont update as often as Id like to, but I try to make the ones I do worthwhile.

Have you considered using MH with your plants instead? I can't use HPS because even at 20 inches in my garden it'll cause yellowing of the upper canopy. To combat that I have to increase my feed levels, which doesn't agree very well with the Thais bud formation.

I do need to get my fans raised up back at the canopy level. In one of the photos you'll see where the fan used to be blowing air across the upper canopy. Now look and see how much the plants have grown since then. I need to get it raised up and replaced, as well it broke awhile back. Been a little lazy in that regard...

I can't say Ive seen a big difference in plant growth between small changes in light schedule. With these Thai Im growing, which Im on the 3rd run of clone for 3 of them, they've all gotten more vigorous if you can believe it, outdone the previous generation every time, but Ive not made any light schedule changes. I think these long flowering Sativas were growing only improve as you flower them out time and time again. I bet the next run of that lady you have will impress you even more than the last. I think Ill sneak off to your album later to check out the Zam.

Hi Dave, thank you so much for posting this insanely thorough report! Much more stamina than I have, for sure. I managed to wrangle some Gypsy/Ace Thai Stick, got them vegging, and waiting a bit to do second/final top so I can flip those girls(?). Have you noticed any droopiness pushback from a 16/8 veg light schedule?

I flipped one girl without topping, just to get the ball rolling, and she is vibrant! My other girls not as much. I'm currently feeling my way around their watering requirements (very light by my estimation) and working out some nute issues. But they are finicky, as one would expect. My theory is that they are used to a 11-13 hour natural sunlight period, and step in line once you flip.

I forget; did you top or train at all?

Its great to see another person growing some Gypsy Thai Stick. I think you'll enjoy them as long as your patient, and willing to grow out each lady repeatedly..You can't treat them as a one and done deal and throw her out if you dont like the results right away. So stick with em.

Ive never had droopiness caused by a light schedule. My ladies in veg are under 16/8, and do very well with turgid happy green leaves, but only if I keep them fed(fertigation w/ osmocote in the media), and watered evenly and slowly via pulse watering. Got any pics you want to share of your ladies you're having issues with? I may be able to help.

You'll want to either top these ladies multiple times or start tying them down. Especially if you use HPS, which I highly recommend against. They'll respond by branching out a lot, but we want a wide even canopy with these ladies if you're using over head lighting like I am.

Sometimes Ill just tie branches downwards instead of topping. The upside is, after letting it stay tied down after a few weeks, itll usually retain that shape after being untied. Topping is more crude, but Ill do it in a heart beat if they get too tall for their own good.

 

[Dave Coulier]

I just realized we had an elusive lurker make his/her first post in this thread. How awesome is that! Been here since Nov 2015 and now finally jumping in. I know there are more of you lurkers out there. Dont be shy. Become part of the community here.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Hi Dave amazingly lush plants, I cant believe they are grown indoors, you are doing something right.
Have you ever thought of using STS or CS to produce female seeds?
The Durban would be a great female seed producer.
Tangwena

Welcome tang buddy. They are something nice to look at. I think you'll like the latest photos. Ive got another update Ill try to get up tomorrow night. They've really grown since the last update. They may look even better than these ones..lol. I love these plants.

Ive never looked into using any hormones to produce seeds. Ive always been more of a male/female kinda pairing. I didn't get any males from these Thai Stick though. Overall just 4 ladies. I may have to look into that If I wish to produce seeds.

Ive found some here and there in jars of TSA, and others. I can't say for sure if they were pollinated by nanners from Durban Poison, or maybe the Thai had some hidden nanners. Only one Thai lady had to be discarded because of intersex issues.

Now the DP, I have 3 males hanging out in my veg room, but only one is worthy of passing on his genes. Two of the three have intersex issues just like the Durban Poison females. I was so glad to have one male that didn't show problems. Definitely some seeds in the future the old fashioned way.

I love seeing those doible-serrated thai leaves.
Truly, Nature's artwork

That lady has my favorite leaves among the Thai too. The leaves always remind me of croc/alligator tails with those awesome serrations.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Day 44 Thai Stick E Update

Day 44 Thai Stick E Update

This is the last lady I needed to get to before I can start snapping pics of the ladies tonight. Hope you all enjoy!

Thai Stick E is doing very well just like her sisters. Although hungrier than her siblings. I got to check her ppm levels 3 days ago, and it was only 250! No wonder I had begun losing some lower fan leaves on her recently.

Ive hand-fed 16 oz of solution using GH 3 part Flora series @ 510ppm, back to back nights. I didn't expect to need to hand-feed at this stage yet, but Ill do what the plants need. Ill measure tonight, and maybe up my feed levels & how much solution I do feed the plants by hand.

I could increase ppm levels in my res, but for whatever reason the plants dont typically like high feed levels in the res, but are fine when I hand water at 500+ ppm. Maybe nutrient levels tend to spike within the cone of moisture directly under the dripper, where as with hand-feeding its more evenly distributed. Who knows.


Lets get some pics up of this pretty lady now. Here she is just as a clone beginning her journey.

They grow up so fast!

 

[Dave Coulier]

 

[VerdantGreen]

those thai plants look fantastic dave!

much respect

VG