Chitral - A Cultivar Report

[DocLeaf]

thanks arno
this makes sense that they disliked the damp and cold,,, is why coco/pebble was used,,, however, find coco loose substrait (little support),,,so have now added a mulch of (non-peat) organic compost.... still no water since the ice,,, lol
Next time we might think about adding some sort of sand/or more perlite to the mix from the start

peace dLeaf

 

[Raco]

Hi arno!
Good job and nice to see you
Doc,
I found these pics of one of my Nirvana´s Citral

 

[DocLeaf]

"bumberclot the scratchplate just gone out"

Thanks Raco : This what we was expecting from Nirvana 'Chitral' : Emerald green, broad-leaf, good health and structure, yeah mon

How many days did she take to bloom?

peace
DocL

 

[DocLeaf]

This little 'Chitral' sits like this...



... just at the stage when little plants start to grow into bigger plants.
She has nice phyllotaxy and leaf-vein structure,,, (a personal fetish, the last few panels fall into a diamond),,, thinner than the skunk, and wider than the sativa that sit next to her; this little 'Chitral' sits between.

 

[DocLeaf]

1st Feed:

water
splash Bio-Biz Gro
splash (small) Dr Hornby Iguana Juice Bloom
pinch sea bird guano
pinch (small) bat guano
mix together
feed

peace dL

 

[DocLeaf]

c22

c22

We had to revert back to a more traditional method of watering to apply guanos...


This substrait is freedraining; next feed we measure the ec/ppm of run-off

The 3 musketeers - ready to ride out into battle:
The 'Outsider' (front) has the edge as an outside strain, she likes this bucket and the low levels of light. 'Chitral' (left) will mature in time. 'Mossad' (right) holds its own

peace dLeaf

 

[Guest]

A nice start to a great grow. Best of luck and Keep growin.
MOD

 

[kabulbaba]

Some Citral Pics. Seeds are from Homegrown Fantaseeds

 

[zamalito]

It would be interesting to use cactus medium to grow them. I'd think that would be fairly close to the indigenous soil, maybe? I've always thought cactus medium with a little good quality compost seabird and bat guano and some big chunk perlite would work work well with many landrace indicas. Especially with a water system like this.

 

[DocLeaf]

cheers folks we is having some cyber problems at-mo, will get things flowing back against the grain a.s.a.p

MOD : respect for the support

kabulbaba : thanks for sharing ya pics, have smoked HGF's citral at HGF never grown her,, she looks nice how did you find her to grow???

zam yo got me there bro, me always be thinking cacti are from lowland dessert environ (not upland) ,,,as the source of an 'arid soil' type however, I likes this idea :wink: keep it flowing dude

peace n bloom out
DocLeaf

 

[zamalito]

The only real difference between the dominant soil of the american sw and nw mexico and the dominant soil of pakistan is there is a higher level of clay on the top layers of the horizon of the N. American soil. They both have high levels of salt and high ph(though the cactus medium is probably neutral) with lower levels of organic matter and are dry for more than 6 months of the year. Some areas the soil is less desert like and more similar to a typical mtn soil but also many of the common ornamental house cacti are from the various mexican sierras and the andes. The only real concern is that the cactus medium weighs so much. The ones they sell in 8 quart bags at the major hardware chains in the u.s wick moisture pretty well and are fairly rich soils unlike most lowland desert desert soils. I don't think it will be quite as hard packed and alkaline as some of the arid highland soils but I'm not sure if you'd want to go that extreme.

 

[DocLeaf]

sorry, my ignorance, forgot about the Andes ...lol

Has anyone ever grown a Mexican with cacti soil ??? this would be my first line of pursuit :wink: peace dL

 

[DocLeaf]

Remember those days, when tribes walked out across valley floors, to clash arms with neighbours at war. Where there are no rules, there is no law... the only sensible thing to do, is to pack ya bags and head for the coast!!! WTF are our troops doing on Pashtun land ??? History suggests that Afghan soil isn't for anyone elses taking... people come and people go,,, but the lands are still their own.

"Here the rock and water of which the junction was configured had channelled the flow of the fates of civilizations. I wondered what tales a pebble from one of the valley's cracked bastions might tell of all the languages uttered in its shadow."

Jason Elliot, 'An Unexpected Light: Travels in Afghanistan'.

 

[zamalito]

That's beautiful doc. So much said in such a small paragraph. I always found it interesting that I consider their society to be so restrictive yet they have so much freedom in some ways if for no other reasons than their geography and the the pride they take in being so fiercely independent. Even with our so called victory in bringing civil rights afghanistan The commercial preprepared mdium is use for cacti is a cactus and succulent mix it holds more water than I'd thought

 

[Raco]

Doc and zamalito,
you always amaze me!!Wish I coud express myself well here,but this old fart knows english by shear accident jejejeje!!
I bought cactus soil this very week and I´ve been watching it for a while and thinking and thinking...this has to be very low in nutrients for an indoor grow and such...sorry about the rambling
The soil is acidic and very humid here.That means that the plants of a given Chitrali line when grown here,they are very green,and grow fast and vigorously...and even the width of the leafblades may vary
IMO this means that those plants have much chlorophil(?) and very dense foliage laden with flowering inhibitors as well,while in the place of origin the soil is as you have described so well..
Doc,
I hear that the ideal ph of the water is 6,and the leftover water should be 6.5
so the plants can assimilate nutrients well.
N should be as much as possible avoided during flowering if you don´t want smaller buds with less resin.CO3Ca seems to improve the aromas too...

 

[DocLeaf]

zam pride is a thing self-prescribed :wink:

Raco I hear ya,,, the bucket just got it's last feed of N (while still in veg). From here in the Bio-biz and Sea-bird guano will be substituted for Iguana Juice Bloom and Bat-guano

 

[DocLeaf]

update: c23

This 'Chitral' has stretched considerably looking for light...
yet, she has already started to develope her own personality,,, :wink:



each plant seems happy in it's only little space



The 'Chitral' structure, as we can see above, sits between that of the 'Outsider' and the 'Mossad'; if anything she falls more toward the former, (which was to be expected, there being a shared 'Skunk' heritage in both sets of genetics). The 'Mossad' remains an anomaly...

 

[DocLeaf]

Ok had to perform some LST on the 3 musketeers,,,
they be getting to big for their boots

 

[muddy waters]

fascinating thread...

can i ask a kinda related question?

i'm thinking about buying some beans through nirvana and i wonder about whether there really is substantial variation between varieties that come from so close--say, citral vs. hindu kush vs. afghani. has anyone grown these out and are there really pronounced similarities and differences? does citral, coming from the chitral region, have "that kush smell"?

basically i'm asking because i only got money for about 4 packs tops, and i want something to represent that part of the world--would afghani and citral be redundant?

thanks again for the great read...

 

[DocLeaf]

can i ask a kinda related question?

i'm thinking about buying some beans through nirvana and i wonder about whether there really is substantial variation between varieties that come from so close--say, citral vs. hindu kush vs. afghani. has anyone grown these out and are there really pronounced similarities and differences? does citral, coming from the chitral region, have "that kush smell"?

hi muddy waters

YES questions make questions :wink:

Botanically as we travel WEST the cannabis plants get smaller and more compact as they span the Hindu kush:

Chitral (on the Afghan/Pakistan boarder) has thinner leaf than Afghan with more elongated flowers, slightly longer flowering period.

Hindu Kush (N. Afghan) sits between Chitral and Afghan with fewer larger flowers, thicker leaf patterns.

Afghan (Mazar/Herat) is a shorter more compact plant, broad leaf structure and sticky resin production. quicker flowering time.

Remember all x3 cultivar from Nirvana were crossed with 'Skunk' to add stability and shorten the flowering period... the reason they are labelled "Mostly indica". To the layperson the x3 strains could appear similar (they are all of indica type), but upon closer inspection (and smoking) they are quite different in character.

personally we'd snatch 'Holland's Hope' ('Afghan x Skunk') over the 'Afghan', HH comprises of the same geography with different genetics... indoor she is a nice plant with very fruity resinous buds

peace dLeaf