CANNAS TIP ON HIGHER YIELDS!!!!!!

[ChaosCatalunya]

Comparing several identical clones grown in different ways will tell you what works for you. You may have a clone or grow with characteristics that will give differing results to others, there is no better way than a few little tests for yourself.

I hear this info from Canna with interest, I have had solid results with the food and substrates and trust them more than most, the guy may be wrong, he may be right, IMHO it is worth looking into this area.

My experimenting next year will be trying this Canna method vs some bubble/spray pot vs some continuous flow method, whatever my imagination and the local Ferreteria can come up with.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

wygram - nice pics

 

[Carl Carlson]

bump

 

[Moppel]

good thread.

 

[dunkybones]

I drip feed dtw 21 plants at a time, in a kind of SOG, in 5.5" square pots. They never all drink at the same rate. Some plants stay wet all the time, some run dry all the time. The dry plants always yield better. Now when I have slow plants, I pull their drippers and handwater every couple days, and the little runts cruise right along and yeild closer to their thirstier sisters.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

dunkybones - yeah its important not to keep the coco soaked - it inhibits root growth.

peace

 

[crtoker]

This has been one great coco discussion. Hitting on all the bases.

I have been using Botanicare 5 kg bricks and love the product. Using canna a/b Rhizotonic, Zyme and a little silica blast occassionally in veg. Only 2 plants in small 500 cc containers and fluros only. Turkey baster twice daily feeding to a bit of runoff. Pots this small need more frequent feeding than once per day.

Sorry, no knowledge to impart, but, sure learning alot.

Appreciate the thread amigos.

crtoker

Down in Tupelo

 

[Castelvetro]

i think hand watering u just treat each plant individually, some get this much, some that much, when the leaves are shinny n green and reaching for the light even when its off your really on to something, ive just realized why ive misunderstood so many people on here and there one size fits all mentality, they have pumps n timers doing there watering, i think if u dont over feed and your ph is correct then letting the coco dry out a little is what seems to work the best, in terms of plant health, effort and water frugality, just my opinon n experience.

 

[RetroGrow]

It says right on the label of the Canna A & B:
"Plants best catch roots in the COCO medium when it is not too wet".
Words to live by.
I've never agreed with keeping coco saturated.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i didnt know they have started to print that info on the bottles as well now, but it is very obvious, the roots grow much more and quicker in coco if they get the oportunity, and in moments of less % of humidity in the coco, the roots will grow like crazy, vigorously trying to reach all the humidity left in the substrate. when plants are big enough watering frequency can be increased, but still in my opinion the best bet is to make sure the coco never is soaked for too long. it inhibits root growth too much.

only aceptable scenario is in very hot conditions, when draugt is fatal for the plans, in those occasions i think definetly the yields improve trying to keep the coco moist but not water loaded.

in cold temps the water usage is lower and the plants need less water..

peace

 

[vannuysorganic]

I have found that by adding different mediums to my coco really improves drainage, allowing for once a day handwater in veg in 5x5 pots, and 2-3 waterings a day in bloom 3 gal pot. Although when I used to run straight canna coco I found that by allowing the coco dry up a little (not completely but to the point that the pots were light) every third or fourth day especially in veg provided a healthier more robust root mass.

But I feel as though there is a fine line you let the coco dry up too much and you start getting dry spots in the coco which in turn leads to roots starving for moisture and eventually stunted growth.

 

[libby]

sorry van, your last line is bollcks, you obviously don't understand coco. how do you get a dry spot in the root channel?

 

[RetroGrow]

i didnt know they have started to print that info on the bottles as well now, but it is very obvious, the roots grow much more and quicker in coco if they get the oportunity, and in moments of less % of humidity in the coco, the roots will grow like crazy, vigorously trying to reach all the humidity left in the substrate. when plants are big enough watering frequency can be increased, but still in my opinion the best bet is to make sure the coco never is soaked for too long. it inhibits root growth too much.

only aceptable scenario is in very hot conditions, when draugt is fatal for the plans, in those occasions i think definetly the yields improve trying to keep the coco moist but not water loaded.

in cold temps the water usage is lower and the plants need less water..

peace

These jugs of Canna "A" & "B" are almost 2 years old

 

[Lord Humungus]

i have found in veg the plants grow better when the pots/containers get a chance to dry out a lil bit before you hit em again... for me (400mh running 24/0) that means im feeding them every 3-4 days again, just in veg

i think that once the plants are 'grown' (ie the plants are established in their containers and are ready to flip) keeping them moist (not drenched!) thru flower gives me the best results. i like to get 10-20% runoff each day in flower (nutes all the way thru until the end week) and im finally getting better results handfeeding than i was previously ebb n flowing.

cannas a great company (no they didnt pay me to say that i wish they did) with a very useful data on their website.

 

[greenatik]

well this is an interesting thread. last run I decided to put an extra dripper on 3 of my plants. the plants with 3 drippers each SMASHED the plants with only 2 drippers...

 

[Lord Humungus]

well this is an interesting thread. last run I decided to put an extra dripper on 3 of my plants. the plants with 3 drippers each SMASHED the plants with only 2 drippers...

was your feed frequency the same in veg as it was in flower?

or were the drippers just used to flower?

 

[RetroGrow]

well this is an interesting thread. last run I decided to put an extra dripper on 3 of my plants. the plants with 3 drippers each SMASHED the plants with only 2 drippers...

You found your "sweet spot".
Or maybe 4 would be better....

 

[CannabisTHC]

I definitely agree! I like to water after my pot becomes pretty light. I've seen other people keep their medium very moist and I'll certainly tell you that it doesn't work as well that way.

 

[RetroGrow]

I definitely agree! I like to water after my pot becomes pretty light. I've seen other people keep their medium very moist and I'll certainly tell you that it doesn't work as well that way.

Hey Cannabis THC, how do you get so much "rep" with only 44 posts?

 

[Castelvetro]

I definitely agree! I like to water after my pot becomes pretty light. I've seen other people keep their medium very moist and I'll certainly tell you that it doesn't work as well that way.

i totally agree, and since ignoring the water water water mentality ive had zero problems, im in one gallon grow bags rolled down and my girls get one cup of water ever two days, thats it. a few that are filled up more will get a cup and a half.