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Cannabis Seed Morphology

acespicoli

Well-known member
IMO some of the best are the ones you smoke and have to stay active like cleaning the house going for a hike, fishing for a walk to the beach 🤷‍♂️ racy is cool if it settles into a smooth social feeling after the first 15-20min. I like the rush of energy my homey and I back in the day would just stop and look at each other and be like im blazed lol take a deep breath... and hold on while you explore new planets in outer space :ROFLMAO:
Seriously some people will get freaked out and think they are dying! Especially when it creeps in and no ceiling, yeah that will freak you out if your ripping bong hit after bong hit on some new weed.

I remember one time driving thinking I could hear helicopters following the car and would slow down listen and look out the windows. Or it would feel like you were falling like that dreaming thing that happens.
It would make your heart beat real fast like you drank a pot of coffee to yourself haha.
Yeah lucky when you have good weed like that save some for a special occasion ;) Headies
Good sativa weed is not so common anymore. Respect that stuff its a special treat, not for everyone.
Some weeds got that daywrecker thing going for it. Like I have a bunch of goals and smoke a bowl....

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Im gonna post some more Indica seeds soon I think, Best >>> :huggg:
 
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acespicoli

Well-known member
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"Purest Indica" a.k.a. the Steve Murphy Afghan​

IBL (Inbred Line) Regular Seeds​

7 to 10 Weeks​

These seeds have been reproduced from plants grown from seeds that were stored since 1983.

The "Purest Indica" is the original variety of the Northern Lights line. It was first acquired in 1979 by Seattle Greg through the author Murphy Stevens as "Purest Indica" and became the backbone of all of the Northern Lights hybrids.

Seattle Greg told me that after he got the seeds from Murphy Stevens, he inbred them and passed the seeds he made around to his friends who crossed it with their seed stock and created what is now known as the Northern Lights line of #1 through #11. The #1 being closest to this original "Purest Indica" and the #11 being the most tropical and furthest from this "Purest Indica".

The buds are incredibly leafy, sticky and huge, the plants require a lower humidity and look like they came out of an Afghan desert. The leaves have longer leaflets that lay down and the plants have a similar structure to a Christmas tree.

Flowering time is fast and the smell is dank and gassy somewhere between burnt rubber with a hint of acrid smelling skunk. The high is heavy and sedative.

The seeds came to me directly from Seattle Greg in 2020. He told me that the seeds were placed in his sister's freezer in Seattle in the early 80s and were found after she passed away in 2019. His family sent the seeds to him and he got decent germination and sent some seeds to me and I reproduced them in my greenhouse.

This would be the first reproduction of these seeds in almost 40 years.

Seattle Greg also told me that he never sent the "Purest Indica" seeds to Nevil and The Holland Seed Bank because he did not want Nevil to be able to make the Northern Lights hybrids without him.

This is truly world class cannabis; I smoke it and wonder how many generations of farmers cultivated this variety as a hash plant back in Afghanistan or the Hindu Kush mountains and I give praise and respect to them all.

Check out the history of Northern Lights here:
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What is Northern Lights?​

Dec 06, 2022 by Todd McCormick

What is Northern Lights?

Northern Lights is easily one of the most popular cannabis varieties in the world. Initially bred in and around Seattle by a small group of growers in the 70’s, it quickly turned into an international phenomenon.
Northern Lights acquired its iconic name after the legendary “Seattle Greg” sent seeds from his personal collection to a new Amsterdam seed company named “The Seed Bank of Holland.” founded by Nevil Schoenmakers.
For a long time the true story about the origin of Northern Lights was never discussed within the growing community because we all knew that we were being hunted down mercilessly in the expanding "war on drugs". When I first got to Amsterdam and began asking around about NL, I could only find out that the guy who sent the seeds to Nevil was named Seattle Greg, but not much else.
Shortly after Nevil passed away I wrote the article; "Legacy of a Legend" for grow magazine remembering Nevil's life and his revolutionary seed bank. Shortly afterwards I noticed a comment under that article from a guy named "Greg" who was giving personal credit to Nevil for spreading the Northern Lights genetics. I immediately messaged Greg and asked if this was the same Greg who first sent the Northern Lights seeds to Nevil in 1984 - and it was!
Greg and I became friends after talking on the phone and coming together over our shared love of cannabis cultivation. “Seattle Greg” as he is often called, is a retired Marine who had volunteered to join the military at 17, served from 1965 to 1969 then returned home to Seattle and began cultivating the cannabis he had started smoking during multiple tours in Vietnam from 1966-67. Upon returning home, Greg studied botany and natural sciences at the University of Washington and today in his 70s, Greg is still actively applying new science and technology to growing cannabis and sharing what he discovers with others.
In a recent (2021) 2+ hour conversation I got to ask Greg for more detail about the history and genetics of this legendary variety.
After returning from Vietnam and starting to grow, Greg discovered a book titled: How To Grow Marijuana Indoors Under Lights by Murphy Stevens (1975).
How to Grow Marijuana Indoor Under Lights by Murphy Stevens


That book is absolutely one of the most advanced cultivation books to come out of the 1970s and includes information about enhancing growth using CO2, dehumidification, proper ventilation, carefully monitoring the resin production before harvest and also the technique of making cuttings and keeping mother plants. The book even included a catalog in the back of the book that sold hydroponic cultivation equipment from a Seattle shop called “Indoor Sun Sales”.
A passionate student of cannabis, Greg immediately made his way to the local hydroponic shop and befriended the owner and author Steve Murphy. As the years passed and their trust of one another grew, sometime around 1979, Steve gave Greg four seeds of an Afghan variety that he referred to as “Purest Indica” and that became the initial seeds that would go on to become the parents of the Northern Lights variety. Greg said those “Purest Indica/Afghan” seeds were the beginning of Northern Lights.
Northern Lights #2 was created by combining the Purest Indica with other Afghan genetics that Greg had collected from Oregon and California. Greg mentioned that it was his first attempt at making another variety using the Purest Indica and was always one of his favorites. He said that they would smoke the NL#2 and sell the NL#5 because he liked the sedative effects of the pure Afghan.
Northern Lights #2 by agseedco.com

Photo: NL#2
You can buy Northern Lights #2 seeds here
One of the most refreshing elements of my conversation with Greg was the overall feeling of honesty and sincerity when I spoke to him and how he was not certain about certain genetics because they had no way of knowing the true origin, only what they were told and that he was never really sure the accuracy of what he was told.
Which brings me to Northern Lights #5. Greg told me that a person named Herbie who worked at Steve’s hydroponic shop bred the Purest Indica with a supposedly Hawaiian variety that Greg thinks was really from Northern Mexico, but he reminded me that we can never be too sure about where it really came from.
Northern Lights #5 by agseedco.com

Photo: NL#5
When I asked him about the numbering system of Northern Lights #1 through #11, he told me that he made that up just before he sent the seeds to Nevil, along with the name “Northern Lites”, telling me that to him it meant that the plants were grown and bred up North under "lites" and that the spelling got changed by Nevil to the "lights" version after it arrived in the Netherlands.
The numbering system was #1 through #11, with #1 being the most Afghan and “Indica” as they called it back then, and as the varieties became more tropical/equatorial, or “sativa” as the numbers went up. Always honest, Greg said he does not remember all of the particular crosses because he did not make all of them. The Northern Lights seeds that Greg sent to Nevil and became famous was a collection of various crosses that Greg collected from his group of friends on the West Coast over the years that they had been breeding and sharing with one another.
Initially the relationship between Greg and Nevil started off smoothly with Greg gifting the first set of NL seeds to Nevil and then selling him the second set of seeds. Unfortunately, some time in 1986, Greg found out that Nevil had gone behind his back to buy so-called NL seeds from a different guy. That action got Nevil cut off from the true source of Northern Lights seeds, but Nevil just started to knock off the varieties he had and breed them with various other plants.
Greg also reported to me that he had not ever sent Northern Lights #1, the “Purest Indica” that he originally got from Steve Murphy to Nevil, and that instead Nevil “did what he wanted to” with the numbers and changed the history to suit his own narrative. Greg told me at some point he did send a NL#5 cutting to Nevil, but the #2 through #11 initially went to Nevil as seed varieties.
Unfortunately through various busts and “Operation Green Merchant” the original varieties of Northern lights seeds were all but lost, but as fate would have it, one of Greg’s relatives passed away and in an old freezer, his family found a collection of some of his old seeds from the early 80s including; Purest Indica, Northern Lights #2 and #5.
Greg sent me some of those old seeds so that I could do some germination testing and give him feedback on the viability of the genetics after all those years in storage and I was extremely surprised to get decent germination rates and some very vigorous plants. As a collector of old books about cannabis cultivation, I have copies of the Murphy Stevens grow books and I was astounded at the similarity of his photographs of “Purest Indica” to the plants I grew from the “Purest Indica” seed from his relative’s freezer given to me by Greg - they look practically identical.
Afghan Cannabis by agseedco.com

Purest Indica by agseedco.com

Photo above: "Purest Indica"
 

chilliwilli

Waterboy
Veteran
I read here in an old thread that nl5 is (the purest)indica hit twice with thai genetics and some of the crossings were made in hawaii. Not sure if both but iirc the last[(the purest indicaXthai)Xthai] was made there.
Does my memory serve me right and was that post legit?
 
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