Who sent me the leaves from the czech republic? Auto, whorled, 3 samples? I got them.
-SamS
-SamS
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CANNABIS DNA PROJECT
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I don't understand why Phylos chose to do this project in the U.S.A considering the primitive restrictions around access to cannabis for research in that country.
Hard to disagree, but the Phylos folks are from the USA and it is not so easy to change your residence and work to another country, family also. Also the USA is changing, in a few years import/export for R&D may be easy? I hope so as it is today each state has different rules, and under Federal law it is all forbidden, but so are Cannabis testing labs and that has not stopped them. Canada has changed, several other countries also, all in the last few years. Until the USA does change they make research in the USA difficult, you can send Cannabis DNA, but no live seeds or even dead leaves, for researchers this is a big hurdle, if other researchers world wide have the ability to import live seeds and leaves easily, like in Canada, they have a big advantage.
When this project started there were several other DNA Cannabis projects, Kevin McKernan 2011 at Medicinal Genomics & Courtagen Life Sciences, Inc., Noland Kane at University of Colorado, and Jon Page 2011 in Canada, none of them in the USA could import live seeds or leaves to extract the DNA in their labs, much less grow any Cannabis, they all had to send DNA from outside their countries or from local state testing labs that also extracted the DNA for analysis from samples summited for Cannabinoid/terpene/microbiological/solvent testing. This is absurd and has to change.
-SamS
When this project started there were several other DNA Cannabis projects, Kevin McKernan 2011 at Medicinal Genomics & Courtagen Life Sciences, Inc., Noland Kane at University of Colorado, and Jon Page 2011 in Canada, none of them in the USA could import live seeds or leaves to extract the DNA in their labs, much less grow any Cannabis, they all had to send DNA from outside their countries or from local state testing labs that also extracted the DNA for analysis from samples summited for Cannabinoid/terpene/microbiological/solvent testing. This is absurd and has to change.
-SamS
Awesome stuff 
I love Jamaica and plan work there in the near future.
That said Jamaica is not the best place to grow early flowering or WLD (Wide Leaf Drug what was called Indica) varieties as they flower as soon as they come up, anytime of the year, as the photoperiod is pretty short year round. The longest day of the year is 13:04 long and the shortest day is 10:55 long. The plants are in flowering mode year round. With just a few plants you can add supplemental lights 6-8 hours a day to keep plants veg and get them big before you kill the lights. If you grow many acres outdoors lighting may not be practical. I will only grow NLD tropical varieties in Jamaica, WLD varieties suffer from PM and Botrytris.
-SamS
Would be a beautiful thing if some of this research could come to Jamaica....the Universities are here and can be maneuvered, or if someone really wants to invest and set up a private lab/breeding/research facility, there is land by which rivers flow, where soil has been untouched since recent memory. Also here is a willing youth that has given up many things to take on this work....I am not a beggar, but I might consider begging for such an opportunity.....
That said Jamaica is not the best place to grow early flowering or WLD (Wide Leaf Drug what was called Indica) varieties as they flower as soon as they come up, anytime of the year, as the photoperiod is pretty short year round. The longest day of the year is 13:04 long and the shortest day is 10:55 long. The plants are in flowering mode year round. With just a few plants you can add supplemental lights 6-8 hours a day to keep plants veg and get them big before you kill the lights. If you grow many acres outdoors lighting may not be practical. I will only grow NLD tropical varieties in Jamaica, WLD varieties suffer from PM and Botrytris.
-SamS
Would be a beautiful thing if some of this research could come to Jamaica....the Universities are here and can be maneuvered, or if someone really wants to invest and set up a private lab/breeding/research facility, there is land by which rivers flow, where soil has been untouched since recent memory. Also here is a willing youth that has given up many things to take on this work....I am not a beggar, but I might consider begging for such an opportunity.....
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Wait wait
Isn't asking for seeds etc a violation of the TOU on icmag?
Sam should be banned!
Yes it is.
IC Mag Site Policy - Terms of Use (TOU)
Where it states that under Rule 7.
Thanks for the support!
I asked first for permissions to do this and was given permission by IC before I did.
-SamS
I asked first for permissions to do this and was given permission by IC before I did.
-SamS
Wait wait
Isn't asking for seeds etc a violation of the TOU on icmag?
Sam should be banned!
Give thanks Sir Skunkman. If you are coming down soon, I would be honoured to meet you, if you so choose.
Wow, I am like the Donald Trump of Cannabis?
What can I say? I neither support Trump or would like to be him.
As for the IC TOU have you read them?
I did and try and follow them, that is why I asked and got permission first. I do understand your frustration and your need to share what you have, but give me a break, I did it right and followed all the rules.
-SamS
What can I say? I neither support Trump or would like to be him.
As for the IC TOU have you read them?
I did and try and follow them, that is why I asked and got permission first. I do understand your frustration and your need to share what you have, but give me a break, I did it right and followed all the rules.
-SamS
You're welcome I was going to say you should have stated that fact in your first post but then remembered that you're like the Donald Trump of cannabison icmag & can do what you want in regards to TOU
oldbean,
As far as I know I have never received a PM from you, I do try and answer all questions, specially about the DNA project work. What date was that? I just checked all my PM's after Oct 2015, when you joined IC, and did not find any PM's from you or to you from me. Odd if you sent me PM's? Are you sure?
-SamS
As far as I know I have never received a PM from you, I do try and answer all questions, specially about the DNA project work. What date was that? I just checked all my PM's after Oct 2015, when you joined IC, and did not find any PM's from you or to you from me. Odd if you sent me PM's? Are you sure?
-SamS
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I'm glad you received my sarcasm well but you know what I meant & I'm genuinly interested in this thread and its findings. At least I got a reply from you unlike any PM's I've sent you
Out of the 111 samples you sent in i do hope was RKS #1 one of them
Regards
OB
There's no such thing as RKS!
When are peeps going to figure that out?
Sam made Skunk #1 not RKS.
SMDH!
I did make the original Skunk #1 and as far as I know any RKS was from them. RKS name was used later by others, not me, I used the name Skunk #1 if they were sweet or RKS smelling, but bred away from the RKS, as I liked the smell, taste and effects of the sweeter Skunk #1. In the beginning Mid 70's most Skunk #1 were RKS smelling, after 85 they were almost all all sweeter.
-SamS
-SamS
Actually Sam has said himself that it was all RKS originally & he didn't like it so selected away from it to create Skunk#1.....I know he didn't make the original skunks from which RKS originates from
MJPassion if RKS never existed then why is he even mentioning it? Hmmmm
As a breeder Sam, it was up to you to choose which way you wanted to breed.
You didn't like the RKS and went sweet and that's fine.
I just wish somebody out there would have saved some that's all.
But such is life.
It is sad how fast a really interresting thread can be turned by a single troll.
Every thing said might be right or just the blabla of a frustrated pms teenagegirl pretending to be someone.
Thats the problem with the internet everyone can say anything in the safty of not really facing the other, doesen't mater what bullshit it is.
And on the other side there will also be a lot of tards who will belife the shit they are told, because it is told in a confident way.
DON'T FEED THE TROLL
Every thing said might be right or just the blabla of a frustrated pms teenagegirl pretending to be someone.
Thats the problem with the internet everyone can say anything in the safty of not really facing the other, doesen't mater what bullshit it is.
And on the other side there will also be a lot of tards who will belife the shit they are told, because it is told in a confident way.
DON'T FEED THE TROLL
I never met any Joe Mendocino, he had zero to do with Sacred Seeds, that was my company started and run by me alone, all the breeding by me. You can ask people like Rob Clarke or Mel Frank that knew me well and were around when I started Sacred Seeds. I have read so much made up bull on the net about Sacred Seeds being started in the 40's, 50's, 60's, by a collective of growers and I was the youngest member. This is just made up. I started Sacred Seeds, I made up the name, I designed the seed packages, and bred the varieties or in the case of a few varieties I got them with permissions to run with them from their breeders. There was no collective. If anyone has a non Sacred Seeds Cannabis seed package pre 1975 I would like to see it, I never have, and I never heard of any Cannabis seed company before Sacred Seeds. I am not saying no one else made seeds, but I had many varieties from around the world, many collected by myself, a real seed company, with real packages that I still have copies of. Where are the other Cannabis seed packages from the 70's, has anyone ever seen one?
Please don't sidetrack this thread, stick to the subject, Cannabis DNA Project, or post in another thread, or I will just delete the posts that are off subject, I will not say this again, I will just delete any off subject posts. I feel sorry for those that have chosen to believe the internet stories, but they are just made up, it never happened. They are a waste of time unless you like fiction.
-SamS
Please don't sidetrack this thread, stick to the subject, Cannabis DNA Project, or post in another thread, or I will just delete the posts that are off subject, I will not say this again, I will just delete any off subject posts. I feel sorry for those that have chosen to believe the internet stories, but they are just made up, it never happened. They are a waste of time unless you like fiction.
-SamS
I think this question got overlooked.
I'm also interested in the answer but I think I already know what it is.
