It's a distinct possibility. We will have more info on this after 11/10. You could always come to the meetings at scooters if you want to get involved
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It's a distinct possibility. We will have more info on this after 11/10. You could always come to the meetings at scooters if you want to get involved
topshelf_sac
Member
Thanks for the invite. I live in Sac. I do cuttings for a lot of farmers in Butte and Yuba though so I follow their progress. I'm an indoor guy as well. I wish I had time to make it there but my hands are full here and I can't keep up with my own stuff.
i would say at least 25-30% of gardens got a compliance check this year. basically they said they documented at least 2500-3000+ gardens in butte county over the past few years, and this year they hit 1200+ gardens with code enforcement as of the last measure A update.
but that doesn't mean all 1200 got shut down completely, talked to a few homies who have replanted successfully, albeit just smaller gardens. buddy who pulled 250 off his hillside last year managed to replant a measly 12 plants and pull 50 units down, but had the chopper and sheriff harassing him until the very end. super stressful, lots of people just want to get out of this county and all the conservative nimby snitches out there fucking with neighbors.
but that doesn't mean all 1200 got shut down completely, talked to a few homies who have replanted successfully, albeit just smaller gardens. buddy who pulled 250 off his hillside last year managed to replant a measly 12 plants and pull 50 units down, but had the chopper and sheriff harassing him until the very end. super stressful, lots of people just want to get out of this county and all the conservative nimby snitches out there fucking with neighbors.
kathy needs to be sued or charged criminally for filing false complaints. a message needs to be sent that you cannot just call in random complaints if you "think" your neighbor is growing. measure A complaint system should only be for those who live in thermalito or the flats, who can visibly see their neighbors plants right next to their property lines etc…
my stupid neighbor didn't even see our fucking gardens and called in a complaint on 3 different properties because he "smelled it last year"….im worried he might smell some of the scene we got going cus we replanted and he might call another one in based on smell. wish i could sue that motherfucker….
my stupid neighbor didn't even see our fucking gardens and called in a complaint on 3 different properties because he "smelled it last year"….im worried he might smell some of the scene we got going cus we replanted and he might call another one in based on smell. wish i could sue that motherfucker….
MartianMarvin
Member
its a typical butte county story, where my neighbor was always cool and never bothered us. yet some tweaker trash decided to break into his house one day and then he decided he wanted to blame his neighbors instead of the fact this county is overrun with petty meth criminals….
why would growers harass and rob their neighbors, our main concern is flying low and staying under the radar so that we can complete our crop.
why would growers harass and rob their neighbors, our main concern is flying low and staying under the radar so that we can complete our crop.
Butte County's rules only apply to people who are afraid of them. Start giving zero fucks.
MARK YOUR CALENDARS!
Our next meeting - and perhaps our last one under this specific umbrella (Butte County Patient Exemption Act as an initiative) - will be Thursday, October 29 at 11am at Scooters. Please plan to join us!
This will be the first "official" meeting of our newly formed 'Inland Cannabis Farmers Association'. Which leads me to say a few things about this new "group" ---
We are committed to serving, protecting and working with all of our farmers - large or small, commercial or cottage or family. It is through caring for our farmers that we will serve and protect our patients.
We are committed to open operations and transparency about what we do and how we do it, and we are equally committed to protecting the privacy of our members.
We need you. We need everyone to make this work. We will need your time, your membership donations, and your experience. All are needed, all are invaluable.
Got questions? send a message and I'll get back to you.
Now's the time. Let's do this.
Our next meeting - and perhaps our last one under this specific umbrella (Butte County Patient Exemption Act as an initiative) - will be Thursday, October 29 at 11am at Scooters. Please plan to join us!
This will be the first "official" meeting of our newly formed 'Inland Cannabis Farmers Association'. Which leads me to say a few things about this new "group" ---
We are committed to serving, protecting and working with all of our farmers - large or small, commercial or cottage or family. It is through caring for our farmers that we will serve and protect our patients.
We are committed to open operations and transparency about what we do and how we do it, and we are equally committed to protecting the privacy of our members.
We need you. We need everyone to make this work. We will need your time, your membership donations, and your experience. All are needed, all are invaluable.
Got questions? send a message and I'll get back to you.
Now's the time. Let's do this.
WoodFired Pizza
Member
yea thats whats wrong with the cops. they flip flop from zero fucks to maximum penalties based on your attitude. what they expect is something most people in pain aren't capable of doing for them.
Sgtstadanko707
Member
Where is scooters at.
sounds good tankerton thanks for the efforts in putting that together and i will for sure mark my calender for that.
any updates on recent CE/BCSO activity. The chopper was out today over forbestown rd, saw her loop up around lumpkin rd and then out to feather falls.
any updates on recent CE/BCSO activity. The chopper was out today over forbestown rd, saw her loop up around lumpkin rd and then out to feather falls.
awesome new ammo in our fight against butte county developement services!!
today i got this notice in the mail, new public notice regarding "right to farm"
"the county of butte permits the operation of properly conducted AG operations on AG land within the area of unincorporated butte county and has declared this county policy in the Butte County Right To Farm Ordinance (butte county code, chapter 35)
Residents or users of property located near an AG operation on AG land may at times be subject to inconvenience or discomfort arising from that operation, including, without limitation, noise, odors, fumes, dust, smoke, insects, operation of machinery during any time day or night, storage and disposal of manure, and ground or aerial applications of fertilizers, soil amendments, seeds, and pesticides. One or more of these discomforts may occur as result of any properly conducted AG operation on AG land.
The County of Butte has determined in the Butte County Right to Farm Ordinance that inconveniance or discomfort arising from a properly conducted AG operation on AG land will not be a considered a nuisance for purpose of BCC or county regulations, and that residents or users of nearby property SHOULD BE PREPARED TO ACCEPT SUCH INCONVENIENCE OR DISCOMFORT as a normal and necessary aspect of living in a county with a strong rural character and an active AG sector. "
they are also reducing properly line setbacks from 300ft to 25ft apparently. Isnt this LESS than the setbacks required for marijuana cultivation? whats worse, a marijuana garden or a cow farm? this is ridiculous that they are justifying AG operations that use more water, cause more public nuisance, and have more rights against neighbor complaints. basically neighbors are not even allowed to complain at all about this with the county. meanwhile you can call a phone number and get your neighbor a visit from county over medical marijuana. with new legalization regulations, and possible fed rescheduling marijuana needs to be put within the BCRtFO and we can fuck off all those anonymous complaints.
on the flipside, this is causing a small uproar with local property owners who are very pissed off at butte county developement services. they have a meeting coming up oct22 thursday at 9a at butte county planning commission.
figured tankerton and the lawyers should look at this and decide a solid plan of action in how to get this ammo into the fight.
today i got this notice in the mail, new public notice regarding "right to farm"
"the county of butte permits the operation of properly conducted AG operations on AG land within the area of unincorporated butte county and has declared this county policy in the Butte County Right To Farm Ordinance (butte county code, chapter 35)
Residents or users of property located near an AG operation on AG land may at times be subject to inconvenience or discomfort arising from that operation, including, without limitation, noise, odors, fumes, dust, smoke, insects, operation of machinery during any time day or night, storage and disposal of manure, and ground or aerial applications of fertilizers, soil amendments, seeds, and pesticides. One or more of these discomforts may occur as result of any properly conducted AG operation on AG land.
The County of Butte has determined in the Butte County Right to Farm Ordinance that inconveniance or discomfort arising from a properly conducted AG operation on AG land will not be a considered a nuisance for purpose of BCC or county regulations, and that residents or users of nearby property SHOULD BE PREPARED TO ACCEPT SUCH INCONVENIENCE OR DISCOMFORT as a normal and necessary aspect of living in a county with a strong rural character and an active AG sector. "
they are also reducing properly line setbacks from 300ft to 25ft apparently. Isnt this LESS than the setbacks required for marijuana cultivation? whats worse, a marijuana garden or a cow farm? this is ridiculous that they are justifying AG operations that use more water, cause more public nuisance, and have more rights against neighbor complaints. basically neighbors are not even allowed to complain at all about this with the county. meanwhile you can call a phone number and get your neighbor a visit from county over medical marijuana. with new legalization regulations, and possible fed rescheduling marijuana needs to be put within the BCRtFO and we can fuck off all those anonymous complaints.
on the flipside, this is causing a small uproar with local property owners who are very pissed off at butte county developement services. they have a meeting coming up oct22 thursday at 9a at butte county planning commission.
figured tankerton and the lawyers should look at this and decide a solid plan of action in how to get this ammo into the fight.
With the passage of ab266 cannabis is now considered an agricultural commoddity. Butte supes know this and have privately acknowledged that its a problem for them. Listen butte co is never going to admit measure a is a failure. It's not going to happen period but they know they have to do something about the ordinance and look for them to see the new regs as a way out of the pickle they are in. I'm not going to lie to you guys either. There are going to be losers in this transition and if you have any aspirations of being a commercial cannabis farmer you need to get involved and start getting your properties up to state standards. I'm also going to tell you flat out that if butte plays ball some peoples properties are going to be excluded because they are going to move to zone it out of highly residential areas.
First, lets look at this little news gem & actually READ THE COURT TRANSCRIPTS - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/medical-marijuana-ruling_56265df9e4b08589ef48fee0
Thats a pretty big piece of news right there. You might say - A game changer. It basically rules that the Feds are breaking their own law (538) by indeed preventing med access and thereby circumventing and or paying no attention to state law. Consequently, this ruling will have to eventually trickle down to effect ALL counties who are also doing the same thing - denying access thru the guise of bullshit code and ordinance violations. So there's that...
So, the big question for us who reside in the Ban Wagon county trenches is - When and how will this latest court ruling reign in your particular Ban Wagon county-sponsored and madly driven grim reapers who are running blindly wild, mostly amok & stupidly unabated thru every med-grow they can find with whatever means it takes to find & seize, regardless of whether those means & methods are mostly if not grossly and purely fabricated, grudge-snitch orientated or even Google Earth generated...? Me, I have no frickin clue but hey, I would like to think, if the county boys at this point have any common sense left at all, they have to at least be thinking to themselves if not saying out loud - "Oh shit..." cc
Thats a pretty big piece of news right there. You might say - A game changer. It basically rules that the Feds are breaking their own law (538) by indeed preventing med access and thereby circumventing and or paying no attention to state law. Consequently, this ruling will have to eventually trickle down to effect ALL counties who are also doing the same thing - denying access thru the guise of bullshit code and ordinance violations. So there's that...
So, the big question for us who reside in the Ban Wagon county trenches is - When and how will this latest court ruling reign in your particular Ban Wagon county-sponsored and madly driven grim reapers who are running blindly wild, mostly amok & stupidly unabated thru every med-grow they can find with whatever means it takes to find & seize, regardless of whether those means & methods are mostly if not grossly and purely fabricated, grudge-snitch orientated or even Google Earth generated...? Me, I have no frickin clue but hey, I would like to think, if the county boys at this point have any common sense left at all, they have to at least be thinking to themselves if not saying out loud - "Oh shit..." cc
After reading, I'm not finding anything that suggests, indicates or actually states that any of the 3 bills reference "agricultural commodity". I suppose the 3 bills can be interpreted that way and perhaps should be but for right now, all I see is the state going all out to create a system to tightly fence in any and all things having to do with MEDICAL MARIJUANA - good, bad or otherwise...
In county-speak, with regard to commercial and residential - 'never the two shall meet." However the 3 bills transcend down to us as cultivators, make no mistake - The counties will play their zoning card. If marijuana growing is eventually determined to be a commercial operation, which is the way it seems to be headed, you will be required to do it on property that is zoned either commercial or possibly agricultural although ag, at this point , does not include growing marijuana unless you can somehow prove it relates to ag-activities: livestock, growing vegetables etc. BTW - usually, a minimum acreage to qualify ag is required. In Shasta, its min 200 acres. Stupid but true.
You cant just wake up one day and magically claim your house, if located in a residentially zoned neighborhood, is now going to be for commercial or ag use. The 3 bills cover sq footage cultivation guidelines along with massive amounts of licensing within a bazillion different newly state created departments. Without question, to continue doing what we do, property ALREADY zoned ag or commercial will be an obvious and standard follow-up requirement after all the bureaucratic hoop design/jumping is said and done. It's just your county's next best way of continuing to keep their fat fingers in the med-pie...cc
Does anyone know how they are deciding when to call in the Butte Interagency Narcotics Task Force, and when to simply cite people and let them fight it in court? I know that some people with 200-300(depo) plants have been cited, and then chose to fight it in court. While others with 200-300 plants(teens, clones, seeds, etc...) have been arrested.
I agree that having a larger garden makes it worthwhile to fight them in court. I had a smaller garden at my house, and chose to reduce the size and pay the fine. I'm going to try and sell my house this year, but if it doesn't sell by March/April. Then I'll more than likely replant not just my small depo, and my larger full season which I chose not to plant this year. With the larger garden in play, I would definitely not pay the fine and come into compliance.
This county is a pain in the ass. There are some people who may not like what you do, but won't cause any problems as long as it doesn't affect them. There are others who couldn't wait to eliminate all cultivation from this county.
I agree that having a larger garden makes it worthwhile to fight them in court. I had a smaller garden at my house, and chose to reduce the size and pay the fine. I'm going to try and sell my house this year, but if it doesn't sell by March/April. Then I'll more than likely replant not just my small depo, and my larger full season which I chose not to plant this year. With the larger garden in play, I would definitely not pay the fine and come into compliance.
This county is a pain in the ass. There are some people who may not like what you do, but won't cause any problems as long as it doesn't affect them. There are others who couldn't wait to eliminate all cultivation from this county.
Wow big ruling
Thanks for that info cowboy. Its perfect to go against all the ban wagon officials who say they are following federal law. Now we can just point to this ruling and the great bi partisan amendment.
Sadly, I don't see it stopping the local insanity, but it will help those who get harassed, by the feds at least. I have a feeling butte county is gonna fight long and hard before it ever admits to being wrong about measure a.
Sadly, I don't see it stopping the local insanity, but it will help those who get harassed, by the feds at least. I have a feeling butte county is gonna fight long and hard before it ever admits to being wrong about measure a.
Almost all foothill land in butte county is res-ag and almost all foothill residents have had to sign a right to farm declaration when they close on a property through a title company. Bottom line this is an ag economy and you can't ban farming. We have received positive feedback from the some of the supervisors and they have directly asked our environmental consultants and lawyers to hold off on filing the Butte county patient exemption act until after the nov 11. I'll check into the ag commodity part but our environmental consultant had direct conversations with Maureen Kirk and Doug teeter and they have acknowledged that measure a is problematic with the signing of the new bills. They will never admit it is a failure. Only time will tell but if they don't play ball we already have initiative language and lawsuits ready to go against the county and water board.
Sgtstadanko707
Member
It's a stretch but they do a lot of tree harvesting up here in forest ranch. Would it be considered ag land.
