Butte County

[Sunfire]

Sunfire do you have any further info in regard to the march on the Capital? What time on 8/26/15? Is there a specific place that the march will start from?
Any info is much appreciated. I would like to participate.

Thank you!

The date was adjusted/clarified by the main sac activists to the 27th to catch all the senator's there at the building. PRE MEET IS 8AM-830AM AT THE NORTH ENTRANCE!!!!

Aug.27th Activists & Patients are filing the halls and going office to office to let the following legislatures know we don't support this*bill.
The final location to hear what happens is Room 4203 @10am.

Assembly Member Rob Bonta Author of AB 916-319-2018 Email his office

Assembly Member Ken Cooley (co-author) 916-319-2008

Assembly Member Reggie Jones-Sawyer (co-author) 916-319-2059

Assembly Member Tom Lackey (co-author) 916-319-2036

Assembly Member David Chiu (co-author) 916-319-2017

Senator Mike McGuire Author of SB 643 916-651-4002

 

[whadeezlrg]

forgive my ignorance; but how is this even happening(ab266)?? I thought sb420 was repealed because prop 215 was only able to amended by the vote of the people??

 

[ButteCounty Guy]

AB 266 can happen

AB 266 can happen

There is a problem. AB 266 can happen for the same reason that Butte County's Measure A happened. Growers don't vote. If one person from each grow in this county had voted in November 2014, Measure A would have failed. Hiding out in the woods getting high is not a strategy.

 

[mojave green]

Ya'll need to tune into the political process a bit if you desire to have your voice heard and acted on.

 

[tankerton]

There is a problem. AB 266 can happen for the same reason that Butte County's Measure A happened. Growers don't vote. If one person from each grow in this county had voted in November 2014, Measure A would have failed. Hiding out in the woods getting high is not a strategy.

While yes many growers and people that registered and signed referendum didn't vote your statement is inaccurate. Measure a won by 12000 votes and there were far less grows in the county than that. Also ab266, 643, and 243 have no public vote. They are assembly bills that pass or fail depending on the actions of the legislature. Prop 215 can't bd changed because it was a voter initiative but the ca Supreme Court says it only provides limited immunity from prosecution. Sb 420 is a state bill that will be repealed by ab266 and that's the nail in the coffin because it provides for collective cultivation

 

[mapinguari]

forgive my ignorance; but how is this even happening(ab266)?? I thought sb420 was repealed because prop 215 was only able to amended by the vote of the people??

Only the parts of SB 420 that restricted access were struck down (the 6 plant limit, mainly).

Other things stayed, like the clarification that only the trimmed flowers can be considered in evaluating how much cannabis a person possesses.

And, of course, the explicit protection for collective / cooperative cultivation projects.

 

[mojave green]

AB ### or SB ###, it won't matter. The Cali gubmit IS going to clamp down on commercial cultivation and distribution.
If you want something done right, the people will have to do it themselves. write another proposition with protection against civil harassment and prosecution.
Fuk the gubmit!
Long live the black market!

 

[ShadWdsFrms]

You're both right!

You're both right!

While yes many growers and people that registered and signed referendum didn't vote your statement is inaccurate. Measure a won by 12000 votes and there were far less grows in the county than that. Also ab266, 643, and 243 have no public vote. They are assembly bills that pass or fail depending on the actions of the legislature. Prop 215 can't bd changed because it was a voter initiative but the ca Supreme Court says it only provides limited immunity from prosecution. Sb 420 is a state bill that will be repealed by ab266 and that's the nail in the coffin because it provides for collective cultivation

IMHO I think both Mojave and Tankerton are right –

It’s not that enough growers didn’t vote; It’s more that a small percentage of registered voters vote regularly, and in both Butte and Yuba County (as well as a few other surrounding counties), the voters who vote regularly tend to vote more conservative.

If growers and MJ supporters could have been better influencers, on 12,001 not-regularly-voting voters, then the measure would have failed. Turning out the vote is critical whatever the cause.

Protest is critical too, but protest can't be self-serving – You have to demonstrate why supporting a cause impacts the general population, not just a small group - Be it the slippery slope of the government gobbling up more personal freedoms or encumbering the rights of property owners or taking medical decisions away from individuals, stick your argument on the big stuff and you’ll win more support.

 

[Sunfire]

THURSDAY THE 27TH AT 8AM WE MEET AT THE NORTH ENTRANCE OF THE CAPITAL BUILDING TO STORM THE HALLS AND THEN RALLY AT 10AM SO SEE THE RESULTS OF THIS BILL AND WHAT THEY DO WITH IT. PLEASE COME AND SUPPORT US ALL!!!

 

[ButteCounty Guy]

Measure A

Measure A

We won the first vote. I think that it was 52% to 48% at a special election to kill the ordinance in 2012. The restrictive ordinance and Measure A were planned to take advantage of the midterm election during the second term of a sitting Democrat President. They were not happy about losing the first one. The turnout for elections held in this situation is always very low, and Republicans were expected to go to the polls at a significantly higher rate than Democrats. The support for legalization of marijuana is traditionally bifurcated with 80% of Republicans opposing legalization and 80% of Democrats supporting legalization. It was set up nicely for us to lose.

The story I heard about how the new ordinance came about has always bothered me. The supervisors left the room, and when they came back had the very restrictive ordinance all ready to vote on. I thought that supervisors were not even allowed to have lunch in groups of three. They are supposed to conduct business in public, not in back rooms.

 

[tankerton]

In 2012 the opposition formed no resistance whatsoever and it was a June election. Our "let granny grow" campaign really irked some people and it led to the opposition organizing.

They offered to half our numbers before they moved on measure a and we declined but since they realized it was all or nothing anyway they put out the more restrictive ordinance. We drew our line in the sand they drew theirs and we lost.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

so i guess there was no measure A update at last BOS meeting, any idea when they will re-update?

also I'm like 90% sure they already vaporized most of their allotted funds for measure A enforcement, does the county need to go back to BOS to ask for more $$, would really love to know how much they have spent on measure A so far and how much more they expect to spend.

 

[tankerton]

so i guess there was no measure A update at last BOS meeting, any idea when they will re-update?

also I'm like 90% sure they already vaporized most of their allotted funds for measure A enforcement, does the county need to go back to BOS to ask for more $$, would really love to know how much they have spent on measure A so far and how much more they expect to spend.

No that was just Jeff telling everyone that it was a measure a thing but in actuality it was something for his solar thing.

 

[ButteCounty Guy]

Measure A Update

Measure A Update

They did update at the last BOS meeting. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was 976 citations. Its easy to find in the newspapers, even http://www.mapinc.org/ had it. I have heard many rumors about how they have expended their budget, some had enough substance that I expected a request for more funds at the last BOS meeting, and was surprised when it didn't happen.

They are still issuing citations. The picture I posted was of one in Cherokee on Monday.

The rumors now are of major sweeps, and of a change in focus to the larger rural grows.

Those of us in businesses that cater to growers are certainly feeling the pain.

 

[tankerton]

what part of Cherokee. It's been pretty quiet up there except two days ago we had a chopper

 

[tankerton]

They did update at the last BOS meeting. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was 976 citations. Its easy to find in the newspapers, even http://www.mapinc.org/ had it. I have heard many rumors about how they have expended their budget, some had enough substance that I expected a request for more funds at the last BOS meeting, and was surprised when it didn't happen.

They are still issuing citations. The picture I posted was of one in Cherokee on Monday.

The rumors now are of major sweeps, and of a change in focus to the larger rural grows.

Those of us in businesses that cater to growers are certainly feeling the pain.

The last board of supervisor meeting yesterday didn't have an update. The meeting before did

 

[Sgtstadanko707]

Seen this on another site


Great news! California Cannabis Coalition, Crusaders for Patient's Rights, Patient Advocacy Network, Axis of Love and several other statewide activists just completed a conference call with Senator Bonta's office regarding the changes to AB266. The good news is that they have dropped the arbitrary July 1, 2015 date for provisional licenses. In fact, they have dropped the provisional licenses altogether.

In addition, they have dropped all language relating to local bans.

Now the bad news. They have NOT dropped the Measure D exemption. They have also not yet included language that will ensure affordability for truly needy patients.

In addition, they have been made aware that the restrictive definition of the word "primary caregiver" will make affordable access more difficult for those participating in the allowed small collective grows of five patients or fewer should this legislation pass despite our efforts.

Bonta's office has assured us that the votes are there to pass this legislation.

 

[Sunfire]

Where'd you get that? That's debs writing.

There's still soooo much bad crap with that bill. They need to change all the crap about your.doctor and recommendations too. None of the rest matters when its extremely hard to get a rwcommendation.

 

[Sgtstadanko707]

Where'd you get that? That's debs writing.

There's still soooo much bad crap with that bill. They need to change all the crap about your.doctor and recommendations too. None of the rest matters when its extremely hard to get a rwcommendation.

Grasscity on the socal thread.

 

[Sgtstadanko707]

There was more to it I was just intrested in the drop ok local bans