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Yes4Prop215

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If you have been visited by the Butte County Compliance Officers PLEASE call Jeff Phluger at 530-520-6670. Your help is needed for compiling a group of people who have been contacted and/or cited for Measure A complaints. Legal help is available, especially if you have been fined or cited. If you have been damaged by the county you will be added to a Class Action Suit. PLEASE call to find out if you are eligible.

i will try and find out tmro what exactly being eligible means, but common sense dictates it means having a valid 215 script, and not in possession of stuff that will have criminal charges like BHO labs or large amounts of turkey bags.
 

Yes4Prop215

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Try not to stress too much yes4prop215

When one door closes others open

Just keep killing it with your awesome drive and determination thats been on display here at icmag for the past many years.

Cheers brother, fuck those cops

thanks for the words man, been getting alot of positive support from the homies that are keeping me up right now. and your damn right about those doors! had a fucking crazy convo today about a mind-blowing project with the contractor who built my warehouse…really weird how the world works out. if i leave butte, its their loss. i can't dwell on these setbacks, every homie i know who's been in the grow game has had to deal with the negative aspects of this game and everyone always gotta bounce back.
 

MrBelvedere

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If you have been visited by the Butte County Compliance Officers PLEASE call Jeff Phluger at 530-520-6670. Your help is needed for compiling a group of people who have been contacted and/or cited for Measure A complaints. Legal help is available, especially if you have been fined or cited. If you have been damaged by the county you will be added to a Class Action Suit. PLEASE call to find out if you are eligible.

i will try and find out tmro what exactly being eligible means, but common sense dictates it means having a valid 215 script, and not in possession of stuff that will have criminal charges like BHO labs or large amounts of turkey bags.

It's probably a good idea to document all your plants before they get chopped. That way you have proof of loss for the class action lawsuit. Loss of medicine for you and your patients, which caused physical pain, insomnia, mental anguish, etc etc etc. Shit just keep grow 99 plants and take a picture, get cited, rinse and repeat. The county hopefully will have to reimburse you and hundreds of patients for pain and suffering. Pain and suffering lawsuits are big money. Everybody should go to a doctor monthly and report the loss of medicine is causing them severe insomnia, depression, backaches, PTSD suffering, or whatever. Refuse pharmaceuticals because of the terrible side effects. etc. etc.

DOCUMENT EVERYTHING- the citation, film the code enforcement people, the plants, patient list, medical records from doctor visits, etc

I can only imagine the millions they would have to pay out for a few patients with epilepsy who started getting seizures again, or somebody who was previously beating cancer and then it came back. The county is completely insane and barking up the wrong tree on the wrong day...
 
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mapinguari

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California State AB266 and SB643 will both destroy PROP215 and Growers Rights. Both of these have "passed" the committee vote and will be voted on soon.

1) All medical collectives and cooperatives will become illegal! Only licensed dispensaries and licensed cultivators will be allowed to sell.

2) Licensed cultivators will have to provide GPS coordinates of their gardens! WTF

3) Anybody with a felony for possession/distribution of marijuana will not be able to obtain a license to cultivate or dispense.

4) Applications for licenses require fingerprinting sent to the Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation for a background investigation

5) Exempts Patients "who cultivates, possesses, stores, manufactures, or transports marijuana exclusively for his or her personal medical use and who does not sell, distribute, donate, or provide marijuana to any other person or entity."

6) A primary caregiver can "cultivates, possesses, stores, manufactures, transports, or provides marijuana exclusively for the personal medical purposes to no more than five specified qualified patients for whom he or she is the primary caregiver within the meaning of Section 11362.7 of the Health and Safety Code and who does not receive remuneration for these activities, except for compensation in full compliance with subdivision (c) of Section 11362.765 of the Health and Safety Code. Nothing in this section shall permit primary caregivers to organize themselves as cooperatives or collectives of caregivers."

7) Counties and cities can still have grow bans like Butte,Yuba, etc do now.

8) Counties and cities that did not have grow bans will be forced to follow all of the above.


SB643 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB643

AB266 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB266

Senate Roster: http://senate.ca.gov/senators
Assembly Roster: http://assembly.ca.gov/assemblymembers

If you care spread these links and call the politicians up and let them know your mind, tell them their re-election depends on it. "Vote no on SB643 and AB266"

If this nonsense passes, it will LITERALLY be illegal to pass a joint to a friend in the State of California.


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Also, under 266, at least, violations of local ordinances within the past five years also constitute grounds for denial of a local license.
 

Sunfire

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25ftGreatWhite - thanks for the nicolletti intel. I forwarded that to eric.

Prop - lmao where are you going to run to? If your not part of the solution your part of the problem my friend. Please stay and fight with us! Omg you guys are going class action? That's fucken awesone! We decided to not go that route here, yet, as it's more costly but you guys are already in the criminal law boat with all the conspiracy bullshit. We arnt really getting fucked with here yet and are still working on civil law.

We have the opportunity before us that no other state has had! We can take the recreational scene into out own hands! Once we get our county shit handled we must go state wide! We can do this. We are getting the support of the california cannabis coalition with our initiative for a constitutional amendment. We must back the craft initiative to thwart AB266.

From what rick Fenton told me, who has been doing this kind of political stuff since 1978, there will be no vote for AB266. It's an assembly bill and they are going to just push it through. It's the framework for recreational legalization. Hezekiah with emerald growers association and SAM (smart approaches to marijuana) are fucking evil and are on the corrupt politicians side as well as big business. Mis - information is their main weapon and we must spread the truth.

Sam and Hezekiah already took nevada county. The main three hopefully for unity right now is yuba, butte, and lake county. Hopefully Fresno and shasta will file in later. Placer is a maybe as they vote for a ban on the fifth here real soon.

It's important to squash our local battles quickly and then rally all our lawyers and support under one banner which will hopefully be the union. More and more discussion of this is happening. I'm honestly scared to be the front man for it but it's looking like I may have to be. I will have to sacrafice my entire life as I know it. Please continue to fight and to grow but understand we will all have to things we don't want to here in the very near future if we want to see change.
 

Yes4Prop215

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25ftGreatWhite - thanks for the nicolletti intel. I forwarded that to eric.

Prop - lmao where are you going to run to?

Your county! haha, i like what I've been seeing in yuba, and want to be part of a grower union and patient coalition. nothing like this has been formed in butte, and honestly I've already been hating butte more and more, theres just way too much trash here. at least in yuba the trash is centralized in marysville but once you get outside it all seems much nicer especially my new neighborhood.

i dont know too much about the butte class action lawsuit yet, and i havent been a victim to code enforcement just yet, but its worth it to speak to them.

AB266 sounds like total garbage, is that the one that emerald growers association is pushing for? god damn i thought they were championing the "craft" growers initiative, 266 sounds like some shit right out of i502 playbook, ban medical through ordinances like measure A, only let a few legal outfits obtain licenses, FUCK THAT!
 

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has anyone had code enforcement come to their gate and try to contact you? are they supposed to leave a notice or something like that in case they havent. according to the measure A ordinance it says they can only serve between 8-6pm, and that if no body is present they have to leave a notice, usually a pink or orange colored paper from the county.

we had someone honking at our gate and left after about 5 minutes. but no notice or anything like that. i can't be sure until i check the public logs if they tried to serve a notice. there was a big PGE crew working the area trimming back trees and stuff like that so trying to figure out what exactly it was.

4/28 compliance checks

2 properties in the area of Lincoln blvd @ stanley, oroville
Olive hwy @ skyline (right near wagon wheel)
Upper Palermo @ Self Ln, oroville
Forbestown @ weiss hill rd, forbestown
Crystal Ranch Rd @ Cochise Dr, Oroville/FeatherFalls
Weedy Way @ Teddy Ln, Bangor
Obert Dr @ Stony Oaks, Bangor
Mission Olive @ Damon Ln, Oroville
Miners Ranch @ Caroline, Oroville
Feathervale @ Canal, Oroville
Old Olive Hwy @ Mt Ida rd, Oroville
Viewcrest drive (the BHO lab bust that made news) if theres criminal charges right after it will list "REFER TO CE####"

4/29
hit 4 properties in the same area up off cherokee, Oregon City Tl, Buckhorn Tl, Potters Ravine, High Meadows
2spots in Gridley off the 99
Forbestown Rd @ Hurleton Rd, Oroville
Lower Wyandotte @ Freeman, Oroville
Skyway @ Elliot Rd, Paradise, someone called in and snitched about a grow and its being referred to SEU for possible water theft


Can anyone decipher what this means? "U134 B22 AT LOCATION"….and also what does MSIN mean, i saw one MORD check with no address listed but it had a MSIN right under the MORD.

ALSO DONT RESPOND TO THESE ADDRESSES PUBLICALLY TO KEEP INFO PRIVATE. If you view an MORD check in your general area with the cross streets listed, than it means you need to go into the butte county public logs to verify the actual address. this info is just to give an idea of what general areas they are hitting and to see if any of your neighbors are being hit.

i dont want to link directly to their site, buts its easy just type in "butte county sheriff public logs" and you will see the website come up.
 

Yes4Prop215

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ok i had a long talk with Jeff, so need to clarify a few things. there isn't a class action lawsuit yet, but he's in the formation stages right now trying to assemble as many victims of measure A as possible. He's not actually a lawyer, he's in the AG industry and wants to form a grower union of some kind similar to Yuba and he's very experienced in dealing with any AG related issues. They are retaining their own lawyer at a later time, i think it could possibly be Rob Mckenzie who is a real estate property lawyer who deals in code enforcement issues, etc but I'm not 100% sure on that. They already have a few good candidates for class action suit, namely a group a vietnam veterans who grow for other vets and were victims of the large number of checks posted earlier in cherokee.


Also, he said that a few guys have gotten crazy citations that go beyond measure A. One was cited for "intent to grow" because he had 40+ empty smart pots on the hillside. Another was cited for "maintaining multiple grow sites" because he had an outdoor grow area, a small little greenhouse for veg, and a drying room that the CE called a grow because it had fans and ventilations hooked up. they are legally required to serve you a notice of abatement even if you aren't home. some guys have had their "caretakers" get served when they weren't home. another found the notice on his gate when he came home later, they cited him without even seeing the grow site.

we spoke for a long time and got kind of lost in some of the legalese so i can't remember all specifics, but there is a meeting monday in berry creek people can PM for details.

also last thing, he loved the idea of linking up with the Yuba group, and asked that i be a liaison to make that happen. so Sunfire lets try and get on that... also he is really interested in getting a legitimate investigative journalist to do a report on all the counties mistakes and get it documented for public media. he recommended not contacting the chico news and review because they are on the side of measure A apparently, it needs to go to larger media outlets, this is something that I'm working on because i have strong connections to that industry in SoCal.

the investigative journalists needs as many links to understand Measure A, since they are from socal and dont know all the details about the local politics up here. I'm trying to compile a list but if some of you guys are able to pull some good references to whats going on please do. Also we need to compile a list of good people to contact for quotes and information. if you know any local journalists from the mercury register, enterprise record, action news now, etc that are sympathetic to the medical marijuaan cause then please forward their contact info to me so that i can link them with the investigative journalist.
 

IGROWMYOWN

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rooting for you guys really am but really hope you don't get that article printed in the Times down here... That compliance check shit sounds like a real pita ...Theres a chance one of these LA co. bureaucrats will get an idea to start a Compliance task force down here.
 

Sunfire

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Oh you guys are ready screwed in LA. They got old movie studio warehouses already being set up to get buck wild with AB266

Yes sir I'm ready and willing. Just give me the contact info and I'll give it to eric. That's great he wants to start a union too. Maybe him, brooke and I can have a talk and get the ball rolling.

Will you pm me the meeting info in berry creek plz! I know Ppl up there with lots of dollars that would probably love to join the fight!

This is the initiative you guys need to get online with!!! Rick Fenton is all the way on the left.
https://californiacannabiscoalition.org/california-first-marijuana-initiative-filed-today-for-2016/
 

IGROWMYOWN

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That's cool the movie warehouses and all but theres already A TON of warehouse grows down here Everybody and their mama has commercial space .... No helicopters or planes you'd hear them coming for miles ... i haven't seen any. sheriffs have major crime down below with the section 8 crowd and tweekers in the Cities they don't come up to the dirt roads often without a good reason. movie warehouses sound cool but cost effectiveness the future will be greenhouses especially up here A lot more people than you probably think growing in hoops up here in the so cal hills.
 

Sunfire

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One of the goals of an education project will be to show people exactly what you just mentioned, that indoor warehouses are a huge waste of resources.

All the politicians say their concerns for environmental impact play a part in banning medical patients rights to grow. Lmfao I can't wait to crunch some numbers on this and turn it over to the lawyers. I wish there was another meeting soon I'll bust their asses red handed.

On the state level the same is true. Prop 264 and 263 are all about the evil environmental impacts of herb growing. So they are concerned about water use and run off eh? OK let's talk about carbon foot print and remote pollution. We can get religious with it too...God created this environment and they want us to recreate gods work in a little box? Blasphemy! How about the knowledge it takes to grow medical grade indoor, poor granny ain't gonna be able to afford or know how to grow her own.
 

mapinguari

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One of the goals of an education project will be to show people exactly what you just mentioned, that indoor warehouses are a huge waste of resources.

All the politicians say their concerns for environmental impact play a part in banning medical patients rights to grow. Lmfao I can't wait to crunch some numbers on this and turn it over to the lawyers.

Here is some good research on the carbon footprint of indoor cannabis: http://evan-mills.com/energy-associates/Indoor_files/cannabis-carbon-footprint.pdf
 

Sunfire

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Thanks! Anyone else have any goods like this. I've heard some crazy talk like 1 kilo of indoor consumes enough energy to drive a car from coat to coast and back but I need facts and things to site.
 

Sunfire

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Fuck yeah mapinguari that's a great little paper that energy c omission put together. That saved me a lot of time thank you so much we will be using it in our campaign for sure!
 

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sungrown shasta recently did a study about how the water usage to grow cannabis is actually a tiny fraction of what it takes to produce almonds, walnuts, and cattle. something like 1 gallon per gram is what they managed to calculate....wonder how accurate that is.
 

Sunfire

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Lol that's hilarious cause a friend and I tried to calculate that last year and came up with about 1/2 gallon a gram ON FARM. We estimated with remote water usage it could be as high as a gallon per gram but honestly that's not that good compares to 1 gallon per almond by weight.

A mature avocado tree sucks up 40 gallons a day
 

Yes4Prop215

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they are out in force again today in the east oroville foothills. saw the caravan harassing some people down the street who have a tiny grow its so ridiculous. it seems they are doing rechecks on the properties that were visited last week.

i heard that code enforcement usual procedure is to send a letter first when dealign with property issues. so its weird with this measure A that they have changed that method and now are just sending officers out with sheriff backup.

going to a meeting today to learn more.
 
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