Butte County

[Yes4Prop215]

shasta county has a cool alert system that is letting people know where their compliance checks are happening via Facebook. figured we could start one here for butte. they legally have to list every check in their public logs. for privacy purposes i will not include addresses but just general areas and # of checks.

so lately they have been hitting east oroville around viewcrest hard, thats where the latest BHO lab bust was. there was approx 6-10 in that area alone in the past week, and a few in the flat lands around lower wyandotte, and off palermo honcut. last week they also hit several properties in cherokee around potters ravine and oregon gulch.

monday morning they randomly went all the way out to black bart at sandra ln and did one check, then they went down into the flatlands and hit several properties along hwy 70, hwy 99, and a few in gridley. then after that they hit a fuckload of properties back out along cherokee rd and potters ravine where they were last week. they were back out on view crest in east O again tuesday as well following up and hitting new spots.

one thing thats crazy reading the logs, the sheer amount of 5150, domestic violence, petty theft and suicide calls. also does anyone know what LOGI stands for in their system? i see it pop up for all sorts of calls but it also pops up after a few of the MORD (marijuana ordinance) listings which is weird. there will be a MORD then a followup LOGI at the same address right after. also what are some other types of calls i should be looking at the identify marijuana related calls.

 

[mapinguari]

These nascent versions of Civil Liberties Monitoring Projects are essential, keep up the good work!
http://www.civilliberties.org/htdocs/

 

[mojave green]

These nascent versions of Civil Liberties Monitoring Projects are essential, keep up the good work!
http://www.civilliberties.org/htdocs/

YES!

 

[Sunfire]

Start your recall campaigns immediately you guys! Push back!

Prop, did you contact eric? We need to team up!

Appellette court denied us again so we are going back to the Supreme court. The BOS took their lawyers advice and are going to re-do the ordinance but legally this time. We have 30 days to get Vasquez nailed and hand out the next set of recall papers and maybe they won't have enough votes to re-adopt the ordinanace. We made the local sacramento CBS news! Furywall put the link on the yuba county thread. We got those mother Rucker back peddling!

Pot supporters target Yuba County supervisor for recall

By Eric Vodden/[email protected]*| Posted:*Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:10 am

A Yuba County supervisor was served with recall papers and other board members were threatened with the same after reapproving a new marijuana cultivation ordinance banning outdoor plants.

Supervisors voted 4-0, with Mary Jane Griego absent, to first repeal the new ordinance approved March 10 and then reapprove it with the same urgency designation. In between was a 11⁄2-hour heated public hearing followed by opponents shouting and pointing at individual board members after the vote.

Earlier, during the hearing, Brook Hilton, a Yuba Patients Coalition director, presented recall papers to Supervisor Andy Vasquez, who represents Linda. Hilton's action was met with loud applause.

"You sit there and ignore what people have to say," Hilton said. "Maybe you should take your paycheck and go serve your community. You are an embarrassment."

Vasquez, who last year received 61 percent of the vote in winning re-election in the 1st District race, did not comment while being served. But after the meeting he acknowledged the right of citizens to seek a recall.

"I'm not worried about it," he said. "It's their right as citizens. I spent seven years in the Marine Corps and five years as a road deputy in the sheriff's department defending their right."

To force a recall election, opponents would have 60 days to obtain signatures of 25 percent of registered voters within the 1st District. That would amount to 1,069 signatures of 4,274 district voters, an election official said after the meeting.

About 100 people attended the Tuesday afternoon session for the board to consider a "cure and correct" action as a safeguard against the urgency designation not being included on the March 10 agenda. A group called Citizens for Solvency maintained in a letter to the county that the omission was a violation of the Brown Act open meeting law.

Supervisor Roger Abe, acting as chairman in Griego's absence, admonished the crowd at the start, noting that earlier hearings had "been loud and kind of unruly."

"That's not going to happen*today," said Abe, noting the presence of two sheriff's deputies. "If you do that, you will be asked to leave."

Nobody was forced to leave, but emotions climbed as the meeting proceeded. As in previous hearings, opponents outnumbered ordinance supporters.

Zachary Cross told the board its actions constitute "an abuse of power."

"Not only are you taking away our property rights, you are taking away our rights for a referendum," he said.

Charles Boutt credited medical marijuana with curing a tumor in his neck.

"I still need to take cannabis on a daily basis to keep me healthy," he said. "It's not the medical patients you should be fingering. It's the drug cartels."

Other opponents questioned a finding that the ongoing drought was used to justify the urgency designation amid recent reports of Yuba County Water Agency water sales.

However, Gary Simpson, who identified himself as the brother of a Marysville man whose death is being investigated as a homicide, said his brother was killed because of marijuana use and sales.

"He was murdered for the marijuana," he said. "It's got to stop. I don't care what anybody says, it leads to other stuff. It leads to crime."

Colleen Weckman noted property values in the Butte County foothills have increased since a marijuana cultivation referendum in that county failed.

"The damage and devastation is going away," she said. "I thank you for trying to save Yuba County. I thank you for doing what you can to keep the trafficking out of Yuba County."

Court action continues

A Sacramento-based appellate court has for the second time rejected a legal move by opponents to Yuba County's marijuana cultivation ordinance to force a referendum election.

The 3rd District Court of Appeal on Monday denied the action seeking a court order forcing county election officials to accept petitions for a voter referendum. Also denied was an action seeking to halt enforcement of the law.

The ruling came after Yuba Patients Coalition and six individuals filed an appeal with the state Supreme Court on an earlier similar ruling by the appellate court. The Supreme Court last week referred the matter back to the appellate court without comment.

The initial appellate court filing challenged Yuba County Superior Court rulings by Judge Benjamin Wirtschafter denying a preliminary injunction to delay enforcement of the ordinance.

Wirtschafter also denied a temporary restraining order that left intact an urgency designation with the ordinance. That designation eliminated a 30-day waiting period for the new ordinance to take effect and the signature-gathering period to force a referendum.

Opponents said they gathered more than 3,000 signatures — they would have needed 1,242 of registered voters — in the event they were successful in their appeals.

Still pending in Yuba County Superior Court is the initial suit seeking a ruling that the new ordinance is unconstitutional, along with a permanent injunction. Yuba County has filed a response to that suit and a June 1 court date has been scheduled.

— Eric Vodden

 

[Yes4Prop215]

wait so they repealed the original march 10 ordinance, but then just put it back? were there any changes?

either way nice work y'all…i havent contacted eric yet, but its definately on the agenda soon. I'm glad to read the amount of work and opposition you guys have done versus the ordinance in yuba. wish butte could get it together too but we have a very vocal group of ignorant measure A supporters to fight against.

what kind of crack is coleen smoking when she says property values have increased? is she out of her damn mind?

 

[Sunfire]

The way I read it, along with other previous articles, is that their lawyers told them to do it over but legitimately this time to avoid future litigation from us. So they repealed it Tuesday with the intent to re-instate it at their next meeting in 30 days.

Yeah she's high, that guy saying his brother was killed from marijuana is insane as well. Those are both fallacious arguements that fall under the straw man tactic. I went to community college and I spotted that instantly, our BOS is complete fucken idiots and I'm half their age.

Besides those arguements being invalid in the real arguement of civil, patient, and voter rights, they are weak as fuck arguements and I'll tell you why.

First off she's going off of numbers that are based on recently listed properties that are listed for more than they were only recently purchased. This is because "growers" purchased the properties, did a bunch of improvements, and are now being scared off and are selling the properties. Her model shows that it was actually growers who increased the value. However these properties won't sell and I've gotten word from other realtors that even for closed properties arnt selling because it's simple supply and demand. There's shit tons of properties for sale in butte and yuba county. The more properties for sale will make the supply go up, and clearly there is much less demand for such type of properties with all the local politics going on. A 4th grader could have pulled her card on that weak ass arguement.

The guys brother was clearly doing something he shouldnt have and associating with people he shouldn't have. YOU CAN'T REGULATE STUPIDITY! if I get in a car accident and kill myself tomorrow should we outlaw motor vehicles? Arguement structure is everything. What I just said about motor vehicles you might read and think "hey that's a good point." When actually what I just said was also a fallacious arguement known as slippery slope but if I said that to the BOS they would never spot that because that dont know how to do their jobs which is to listen to people's arguements and weigh the validity of them.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

just like the stupidity of the posters on orovilleMR calling growers "terrorists" and saying "freedom has been restored"….im just amazed at how fucking narrow minded these anti pot people are. its almost pointless to even talk to them however sadly these are fellow constituents who are making their voice heard at BOS meetings. shame to say i havent attended any local ones but being in the grey market doesn't really entice one to enter county buildings without any good reason. but this is teaching me i must get more involved in local politics. i think i will attend one of the next yuba meetings.

 

[MrBelvedere]

That is great work getting Vasquez recalled. Butte County can use that recall as ammunition to strike fear into the politicians. Great tactic Sunfire. Getting enough signatures should be easy with a good social media campaign and getting people pounding the pavement to get signatures.


Great idea checking the logs, LOGI means "log entry"

Start your recall campaigns immediately you guys! Push back!

Prop, did you contact eric? We need to team up!

Appellette court denied us again so we are going back to the Supreme court. The BOS took their lawyers advice and are going to re-do the ordinance but legally this time. We have 30 days to get Vasquez nailed and hand out the next set of recall papers and maybe they won't have enough votes to re-adopt the ordinanace. We made the local sacramento CBS news! Furywall put the link on the yuba county thread. We got those mother Rucker back peddling!

Pot supporters target Yuba County supervisor for recall

By Eric Vodden/[email protected]*| Posted:*Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:10 am

A Yuba County supervisor was served with recall papers and other board members were threatened with the same after reapproving a new marijuana cultivation ordinance banning outdoor plants.

Supervisors voted 4-0, with Mary Jane Griego absent, to first repeal the new ordinance approved March 10 and then reapprove it with the same urgency designation. In between was a 11⁄2-hour heated public hearing followed by opponents shouting and pointing at individual board members after the vote.

Earlier, during the hearing, Brook Hilton, a Yuba Patients Coalition director, presented recall papers to Supervisor Andy Vasquez, who represents Linda. Hilton's action was met with loud applause.

"You sit there and ignore what people have to say," Hilton said. "Maybe you should take your paycheck and go serve your community. You are an embarrassment."

Vasquez, who last year received 61 percent of the vote in winning re-election in the 1st District race, did not comment while being served. But after the meeting he acknowledged the right of citizens to seek a recall.

"I'm not worried about it," he said. "It's their right as citizens. I spent seven years in the Marine Corps and five years as a road deputy in the sheriff's department defending their right."

To force a recall election, opponents would have 60 days to obtain signatures of 25 percent of registered voters within the 1st District. That would amount to 1,069 signatures of 4,274 district voters, an election official said after the meeting.

About 100 people attended the Tuesday afternoon session for the board to consider a "cure and correct" action as a safeguard against the urgency designation not being included on the March 10 agenda. A group called Citizens for Solvency maintained in a letter to the county that the omission was a violation of the Brown Act open meeting law.

Supervisor Roger Abe, acting as chairman in Griego's absence, admonished the crowd at the start, noting that earlier hearings had "been loud and kind of unruly."

"That's not going to happen*today," said Abe, noting the presence of two sheriff's deputies. "If you do that, you will be asked to leave."

Nobody was forced to leave, but emotions climbed as the meeting proceeded. As in previous hearings, opponents outnumbered ordinance supporters.

Zachary Cross told the board its actions constitute "an abuse of power."

"Not only are you taking away our property rights, you are taking away our rights for a referendum," he said.

Charles Boutt credited medical marijuana with curing a tumor in his neck.

"I still need to take cannabis on a daily basis to keep me healthy," he said. "It's not the medical patients you should be fingering. It's the drug cartels."

Other opponents questioned a finding that the ongoing drought was used to justify the urgency designation amid recent reports of Yuba County Water Agency water sales.

However, Gary Simpson, who identified himself as the brother of a Marysville man whose death is being investigated as a homicide, said his brother was killed because of marijuana use and sales.

"He was murdered for the marijuana," he said. "It's got to stop. I don't care what anybody says, it leads to other stuff. It leads to crime."

Colleen Weckman noted property values in the Butte County foothills have increased since a marijuana cultivation referendum in that county failed.

"The damage and devastation is going away," she said. "I thank you for trying to save Yuba County. I thank you for doing what you can to keep the trafficking out of Yuba County."

Court action continues

A Sacramento-based appellate court has for the second time rejected a legal move by opponents to Yuba County's marijuana cultivation ordinance to force a referendum election.

The 3rd District Court of Appeal on Monday denied the action seeking a court order forcing county election officials to accept petitions for a voter referendum. Also denied was an action seeking to halt enforcement of the law.

The ruling came after Yuba Patients Coalition and six individuals filed an appeal with the state Supreme Court on an earlier similar ruling by the appellate court. The Supreme Court last week referred the matter back to the appellate court without comment.

The initial appellate court filing challenged Yuba County Superior Court rulings by Judge Benjamin Wirtschafter denying a preliminary injunction to delay enforcement of the ordinance.

Wirtschafter also denied a temporary restraining order that left intact an urgency designation with the ordinance. That designation eliminated a 30-day waiting period for the new ordinance to take effect and the signature-gathering period to force a referendum.

Opponents said they gathered more than 3,000 signatures — they would have needed 1,242 of registered voters — in the event they were successful in their appeals.

Still pending in Yuba County Superior Court is the initial suit seeking a ruling that the new ordinance is unconstitutional, along with a permanent injunction. Yuba County has filed a response to that suit and a June 1 court date has been scheduled.

— Eric Vodden

 

[Sunfire]

Ok so I was wrong, they reinstated the ban that same meeting.

So i told eric your guys story along with what prop has shared and sent him the article and link about conspiracy in butte and lake county. This was his response...

I know Andrew Merkel out of Butte very well, he has been one of the guys I've consulted with for our Yuba Fight. He told me that May 7th the judge is expected to rule in the favor of the patients. That means Butte should open back up...but we will find out May 7th if that's true.

As for us...we are not done with these politicians yet!!

We will be going back to court the first week of May and filing on our additional stances.

1 of which could save the entire season, and if need be puch that up to the Supreme Court again. Thanks for all your doing bro, your insight is much appreciated and your fire even more!!

Brooke also informed me they got more to go on and the BOS fucked up again big time but it's all hush hush right now. This is what happens when you rally a team of educated people and back them with donations and volunteers. The attend every meeting, even ones off topic, and scour every minute of exchange looking for the openings to take a shot! This is what you guys need to do asap!

Looks like you all need to contact this Andrew fellow. Tell him eric Salerno sent you. Talk to all your friends and rally up donations!!! This shit isn't cheap you need to support him! I was asking 1k each for the larger scale growers and whatever could be given from the smaller folk with less need for more meds. Volunteers are great too if money is tight. Volunteers can help sooo much and save the movement a lot of money. Get organized asap and call andrew. If you guys could call him and say you got 20k and 20 volunteers ready to go right now, he would probably cry! That would help all of you so much because the more money that can be spent on the lawyers the stronger your case will be, maybe even higher a second lawyer as that has helped us immensely because they brainstorm and argue and come out afterwards with much better legal standing and nice long summaries.

Brooke, the one who served Vasquez the recall paperwork is really digging the idea of the union, especially with regulations that the members will have to follow that will be agreeable with supporters of prop 263, prop 264, and AB266 however the regulations will be our answer to those issues and not agree with the outlined ideas in those initiatives and assembly bill. We will make the government and opponents fall in love with us and we will bring in already existing infrastructure like "green clean certification" and sequoia analytical. We will also start more education and re direct all the misinformation. We will also support the "craft" initiative and the constitutional amendment initiative eric and rick filed.

Idk if you guys have read AB266 but it pretty much says each county will be aloud "x" amount of growing licenses to distribute and they get to collect a 25% tax! Well who's going to get those licenses? The people with the money! I have word that they are already setting up huge warehouses is socal. We need to educate people why indoor is such a huge waste of energy and creates an inferior product (yes this has been proven analytically, you can't beat full spectrum with plenty of UVa and UVb with infrared). The goal would be to unite the counties and stop the statewide oppression that is soon to follow.

You all must realize the local battles need to be won quickly as the real war will be on the state level and starting very soon!

 

[krunchbubble]

Idk if you guys have read AB266 but it pretty much says each county will be aloud "x" amount of growing licenses to distribute and they get to collect a 25% tax! Well who's going to get those licenses? The people with the money! I have word that they are already setting up huge warehouses is socal.

Seems like that is the route EVERY legal state is taking...

Only big money can grow weed legally....

 

[Sunfire]

Hey krunch! Fancy seeing you here.

Yep we need to fight this shit now! Arnt you in the bay krunch? I could use networking hubs statewide.

 

[krunchbubble]

Hey krunch! Fancy seeing you here.

Yep we need to fight this shit now! Arnt you in the bay krunch? I could use networking hubs statewide.

Well, I do own 100+ acres in Butte county from an inheritance from my grandparents...

My property was an old Japanese concentration camp....

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^what the hell you never told me that! is it on federal indian reservation land.

i believe code enforcement tried to serve inspection at my 2nd spot so I'm closing down all my spots here, all plants moved/chopped and now just praying i dont get cited for the greenhouses. my properties will just have to sit tight until the latest possible court update. butte is a lost cause because the constituency here is downright ignorant and stuck in the prohibitionist mindset. i cannot live in a county full of these old ignorant bible thumping morons even is measure A got repealed, there has to be better places with more like minded folks and hopefully Yuba or Nevada county will be my answer.

andrew merkel is a well known name here and a few friends know him. i talked to them today and since andrew isn't actually a lawyer, they referred me to the lawyer they hire for most of the property related issues with measure A, his name is Rob Mckenzie and i had a nice talk with their office today. $250 an hour for consultation and $2500 retainer for any code enforcement compliance issues. they are good liaison with the county and have several cases going right now where their clients have been able to delay any liens or aggression by the county. still getting raped $$ wise but its a nice barrier of defense.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

^what the hell you never told me that! is it on federal indian reservation land.

butte is absolutely chalked for the time being. I'm closing down all my spots here and moving out as soon as i possibly can. butte is a lost cause, the constituency here is downright ignorant and stuck in the prohibitionist mindset. i cannot live in a county full of these old ignorant bible thumping morons...

So are u gonna pick up and move the GH's u just finished? oR..?

 

[MrBelvedere]

Sunfire the Pier5 law group you mentioned is the home of legendary attorney Tony Serra, based out of San Francisco and if you have his associates card she will be a great ally for both the counties. Good luck and keep fighting!

http://pier5law.com/j-tony-serra.html check out the videos of him in court destroying the opposition!

His firm is representing Oaksterdam and all the people who got took down in that bust.

http://www.pier5law.com/40-kali-grech/kali-crech/140-kali-s-grech-on-the-web.html

 

[Yes4Prop215]

So are u gonna pick up and move the GH's u just finished? oR..?

not sure exactly, if i get served a notice to dismantle the GHs than i will. however my contractor said they might be able to get a standing permit issued since it is all built to code. but thats wishful thinking so I've mentally prepared myself to just take them down, and try not to think about all the money i literally just vaporized into thin air on labor install and infrastructure prep. at least i still have the kits themselves and they will make my money back later. i have a 3rd backup spot in another county but we are just gonna do full season over there for now.

but yeah now i have 3 kits stockpiled. i might sell one but i am willing to take those kits and plug them anywhere it makes financial sense, already talking to a homie in Mendo with a nice field to stick one of them in.

i over played myself this year. i thought measure A wouldn't affect fully enclosed greenhouses, i thought they would need full proof of probable cause for criminal warrants, not realizing that code enforcement inspection warrants do not require the same about of scrutiny. honestly i would have had better chances just replugging my full sun mounds. but i was super set and determined to light dep and it has proven to be the wrong decision. this county ordinance had much more enforcement then anybody out here even imagined.

it really is fucking depressing, to put in this much work, tens of thousands of dollars, and be on the right track to a killer year…only to be cut down and taken back to square 1 all because of something as draconian as Measure A. you cannot even imagine the level of hatred and discontent i have for my county officials and for any prohibitionist who voted for measure A.

 

[25ftGreatWhite]

Thanks for all the good work Sunfire.

Funny thing about that Appeal Democrat article, Supervisor Vasquez makes the statement "I spent seven years in the Marine Corps and five years as a road deputy in the sheriff's department defending their right." As if this in anyway justifies or validates his gross abuse of power. In reality Sup Vasquez was a reserve deputy sheriff and only a reserve deputy sheriff, which is saying as a grown ass man he got to play dress-up in a sheriff uniform. We all know about the Oklahoma reserve deputy sheriff....

On another note, what about Sup Nicoletti? Nicoletti and Gas were found to have discharged gasoline and diesel fuel containing TEL and MTBE, highly toxic gasoline additives, to the soil and groundwater beneath their facility in Dos Palos. And now he's championing the harmful effects of cultivation on the environment and water.

 

[25ftGreatWhite]

Shoot Prop missed this before I posted. Too bad to hear. It's been interesting seeing all the manpower they've put behind enforcement, been seeing sheriffs on the hill weekly and that ain't normal.

 

[theJointedOne]

Try not to stress too much yes4prop215

When one door closes others open

Just keep killing it with your awesome drive and determination thats been on display here at icmag for the past many years.

Cheers brother, fuck those cops

 

[MrBelvedere]

California State AB266 and SB643 will both destroy PROP215 and Growers Rights. Both of these have "passed" the committee vote and will be voted on soon.

1) All medical collectives and cooperatives will become illegal! Only licensed dispensaries and licensed cultivators will be allowed to sell.

2) Licensed cultivators will have to provide GPS coordinates of their gardens! WTF

3) Anybody with a felony for possession/distribution of marijuana will not be able to obtain a license to cultivate or dispense.

4) Applications for licenses require fingerprinting sent to the Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation for a background investigation

5) Exempts Patients "who cultivates, possesses, stores, manufactures, or transports marijuana exclusively for his or her personal medical use and who does not sell, distribute, donate, or provide marijuana to any other person or entity."

6) A primary caregiver can "cultivates, possesses, stores, manufactures, transports, or provides marijuana exclusively for the personal medical purposes to no more than five specified qualified patients for whom he or she is the primary caregiver within the meaning of Section 11362.7 of the Health and Safety Code and who does not receive remuneration for these activities, except for compensation in full compliance with subdivision (c) of Section 11362.765 of the Health and Safety Code. Nothing in this section shall permit primary caregivers to organize themselves as cooperatives or collectives of caregivers."

7) Counties and cities can still have grow bans like Butte,Yuba, etc do now.

8) Counties and cities that did not have grow bans will be forced to follow all of the above.


SB643 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB643

AB266 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB266

Senate Roster: http://senate.ca.gov/senators
Assembly Roster: http://assembly.ca.gov/assemblymembers

If you care spread these links and call the politicians up and let them know your mind, tell them their re-election depends on it. "Vote no on SB643 and AB266"

If this nonsense passes, it will LITERALLY be illegal to pass a joint to a friend in the State of California.


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