Butane Residue Test Results

[SkyHighLer]

Capital came out with a new canned n-butane, and a canned n-butane/n-propane blend.

I ordered a case each of the n-butane, and the blend.

This time Ken at Capital was aware of my simple residue test, it would have only taken him an hour or so of his time to double check if his suppliers are misinforming him. If his new products have much of any measurable non-volatile residue, I'm going to scream, loud, long, and publicly.

Also ordered a few cans of Roor butane for testing. Check out the pic, Dr. Geenthumb signature product...

Newport recently failed retest, it's now way down on my Best to Worst Canned Butane List.

From roorglass:

"I proudly introduce dr green thumb / Roor butane . This butane is a collaboration between top industry butane company NEWPORT butane and ROOR . @newportbutane@breal This is a UK made butane 400ml can with a seal of quality by the man him self @breal #roor#roortane#highendbutane#roorglass#710 This will hit the market end of October . Tag your favorite shop to let them know about this great product . Helps us get this great product by great companies out there ."


"...that's why we partnered up with a company that know everything about butane .its not a rebranding since the 400ml does not exist with Newport product . Plus it is on a different price level ."

http://staging.pixsta.com/u/roorglass/p/soPfsJKgrl/

"About Us

England high quality purified butane
Competitive Pricing
Dr. Green Thumb approved"

http://roortane.com/?product=roortane


I'm glad Roor went with English butane, but there's still quite a spread in English quality.

Back to testing for Mystery Oil...

Roor had 0.020g of residue

Roor, U.K., 400ml can, reads on the bottom "DOM 06.10.14 09:33"

The non-volatile residue had extremely little tint or odor, but notice it has the same amount of residue as I found in my recent retest of Newport,

Newport #2 had 0.004g of residue
Newport, England, 300ml can, reads on the bottom "DOM 26.03.13 19:09"

Newport #3 had 0.019g of residue
Newport, England, 300ml can (167.8g actual,) reads on the bottom "DOM 15.04.14 08:54"

Newport #4 had 0.021g of residue
Newport, England, 300ml can (167.9g actual,) reads on the bottom "DOM 05.10.14 11:25"


'SkyHighLer's Own, available in cans and tanks,' if you keep insisting



I couldn't have made it any easier for these manufacturers and vendors to invest wisely, but they insist on being stubborn. The new Capital's almost here, I mean it, no mercy this time. Ken Lukas describe my test as "cute" back channel when we first had our exchange, let's see how cute he looks this time with his pants down. Seriously, I hope it tests well, but no holdin' back on the shamin' otherwise.

 

[Sunfire]

I hear you and will build all new IC69's differently / buy from WW. I don't always get what I want....

Lmao you may not get what you want but Harriet certainly will! And she wants gravity assisted self draining condensor coils post pump.

Yeah the regular immersion wart chiller should be fine with pre chiller injection I imagine.

 

[Chonkski]

I didn't make either of mine for self drainage, although all I have to do is turn it upside down for a minute. Then I put it in a bucket of hot water to passively recover the leftover solvent.

 

[Sunfire]

I didn't make either of mine for self drainage, although all I have to do is turn it upside down for a minute. Then I put it in a bucket of hot water to passively recover the leftover solvent.

Are you using just regular ice bath?

I'm using just ice and water and didn't modify the coils for self drainage either, when I go sub zero next year I will. I've been doing this new technique where I don't brim the cooler with ice. I just fill it about 1/3 and by then end of the run, when the pressure Is greatest, the ice has melted and the water slightly warm, been working great. However when I top off the recovery tank and the pressure are higher, I see some fluttery gauges towards then end. I do the same thing, take the coils out, turn them up and down a few times, then let them sir out of the ice bath for about a minute then put them back in, works great.

 

[SkyHighLer]

Back to testing for Mystery Oil...

Roor had 0.020g of residue

Roor, U.K., 400ml can, reads on the bottom "DOM 06.10.14 09:33"

The non-volatile residue had extremely little tint or odor, but notice it has the same amount of residue as I found in my recent retest of Newport,

Newport #2 had 0.004g of residue
Newport, England, 300ml can, reads on the bottom "DOM 26.03.13 19:09"

Newport #3 had 0.019g of residue
Newport, England, 300ml can (167.8g actual,) reads on the bottom "DOM 15.04.14 08:54"

Newport #4 had 0.021g of residue
Newport, England, 300ml can (167.9g actual,) reads on the bottom "DOM 05.10.14 11:25"


'SkyHighLer's Own, available in cans and tanks,' if you keep insisting



I couldn't have made it any easier for these manufacturers and vendors to invest wisely, but they insist on being stubborn. The new Capital's almost here, I mean it, no mercy this time. Ken Lukas describe my test as "cute" back channel when we first had our exchange, let's see how cute he looks this time with his pants down. Seriously, I hope it tests well, but no holdin' back on the shamin' otherwise.

Ken Lukas, you have no excuse, you could have easily checked your new product with my simple test described at the bottom of the first post to this thread.

Capital N-butane (new squat can) had 0.020g of residue

Capital N-butane (new squat can,) USA, 187g can (191.5g actual,) reads on the bottom "15021"

The residue had no discernible tint or odor.

Loser... I'd be willing to do the test in your presence with camera's running. Wake up, all of you! This type of disaster is totally unnecessary.

 

[A6 Grower]

I would bet we NEVER see a gas supplied to us that's reasonably priced and has no measurable left overs(mystery oil). I just use your results as a guide of what butane not to buy if i cant get any from praxair. Ive given up on a company distilling solvents for us, just do it your self.

 

[UNREGISTRD]

I would bet we NEVER see a gas supplied to us that's reasonably priced and has no measurable left overs(mystery oil). I just use your results as a guide of what butane not to buy if i cant get any from praxair. Ive given up on a company distilling solvents for us, just do it your self.

What mix are you getting from praxair?

 

[JColtrane]

What mix are you getting from praxair?

I'm getting 99.5% from praxair ... but got a few cool things up my sleeve

 

[Sunfire]

Hehehhe you maverick!!!

 

[A6 Grower]

What mix are you getting from praxair?

99.5% n-butane

 

[SkyHighLer]

Capital N-blend (new squat can) had 0.019g of residue

Capital N-blend (new squat can,) USA, 187g can (185.3g actual,) reads on the bottom "15019"

The residue had no discernible tint or odor.


All Ken had to do was send me a sample or test it himself with my simple test.

 

[slowandeasy]

Anyone try Puff butane ? Shop tried to sell me some. He says it is good, made in England version is better than the US version according to him.

 

[SkyHighLer]

Anyone try Puff butane ? Shop tried to sell me some. He says it is good, made in England version is better than the US version according to him.

I just ordered a case each of the US and English versions. Thanks!

 

[SkyHighLer]

I would bet we NEVER see a gas supplied to us that's reasonably priced and has no measurable left overs(mystery oil). I just use your results as a guide of what butane not to buy if i cant get any from praxair. Ive given up on a company distilling solvents for us, just do it your self.

I received the following pm at another forum this morning. I can't see how it could hurt the sender to post it, and it typifies what I have found... the suppliers have no way to test for a clean product. The only test info they have is the factory floor engineer's word on a Certificate of Analysis, which doesn't include pertinent data on the non-volatile residue (Mystery Oil.)


"Question about Butane Gas for BHO
Hello,
I am writing to you to seek your input on the best butane available for BHO. I have no background on the subject, and I found your posts on XXXXXXXX to be informative.
I am an American partner in an expat owned business in South Korea that specializes in importing and exporting goods globally. Primarily we import items from around the world into Korea and export goods within Asia. We were recently approached about an opportunity in the realm of butane gas. A potential client from Colorado contacted us to search on the feasibility of shipping butane gas from South Korea to Colorado.

We have found a South Korean company that can produce 700ml cans that are 9x refined. Based on our preliminary market research, we believe that 9x refined may be the best available product. Also, the size of the can is more than what is normally offered (300ml). We believe we can get this product into the US from Korea for an affordable cost.
From our research, it is obvious there are many kinds of butane out there that varying amounts of public opinion. We want to ensure before we explore this business endeavor, that we have in fact found a quality product. Are you able to give us advice on how to test the quality of the butane that we may export to the United States? We are unable to conduct any testing with marijuana, as it is strictly illegal in South Korea. Additionally, we are unable to ship to the United States for testing. Shipping to the United States would require ocean freight, which is only possible for shipping large quantities.
If you would like to email me outside of tokecity, my email address is: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
I thank you in advance for any advice and information you may be able to provide.
Respectfully,
XXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"


All I can do is to link them to the directions for my test, and hope they can utilize it in a safe manner to achieve their goal.

I've heard of 500ml cans, but not 700ml... huge can.

 

[cerkilr]

I am new to CLS i have read the thread, and to say im a little confused is an understatement. im looking to purchase my first 50#. im scared to try ecogreen is there another supplier i should use or should i just stick with the cans?

 

[SkyHighLer]

The refrigerant grade gases are going to be used for extraction probably around the world for years to come, and it's become obvious they're of shaky quality, and that every lot should be quality tested beyond the Certificate of Analysis from the factory floor engineer.

I'd enjoy sharing in person with Sean at EcoGreen how easy it is to test butane with my test, but I just checked, and it's a ten and a half hour drive up to Anderson, or $575 RT airfare. I've never taken a road trip by myself that far, and I've never even flown, never had the need.

Sean, order the little $25 milligram scale, pick up some gallon ziplock bags from the supermarket, and test samples of all your gases. Best I can do, I still don't want any more of those tanks left over from testing around the house.

 

[Sunfire]

Once again, is he supposed to have a bunch of baggies sitting on on his desk and say to customers, this how clean it is, and hold them up?

You want him to Crack a bunch of tanks to test which then could not be sold, especially not shipped out?

Either don't buy from him, or do. This topic is getting extremely old. Anyone who has read these threads and seen my words and pics, will see that the ntane is very clean. Only one tank ever had any odor. I know multiple people off forum using it and no one has ever complained about the straight ntane.

Stay clear of the pane and blend for a while, or just don't buy from them. Myself personally I'm never going back to tapping cans. I rather pay twice what ecogreen charges from a gas supplier in citrus heights that I can get tanks from.

 

[Oil Crisis]

Just wish I knew that information a tad bit earlier Sunfire. Thank you!
So, I was screwed. BAD PANE.. I ordered my blend beginning of this month. Still tainted crap. not gonna even mess with their n-tane unless they want to ship out a replacement. Ecogreen has given me enough headache already.

 

[Sunfire]

They probably wont, but doesn't hurt to ask. Just be nice when you call them. Honey and vinegar you know?

You legally can't ship it back to them and they won't take a return once it's open.

Yeah I discovered the tainted crap and was pissed. Took mine and my friends tanks back and exchanged for ntane.

A proper distillation of cans isn't such a bad thing.

Skyhighler your test saved him from contaminating his system! That's what I'm trying to say. It's a great small scale at home test but isn't practical on a larger business level.

 

[cerkilr]

what other bulk suppliers do you guy use or would recommend?