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Broad Mites?
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Thanks GET MO I can sleep at night now, I thought for a second I was in a horror film where they were following me around or something.
Thomas Paine I would try to start seeds at a new location while you clean clean clean your infected area and give it some time to cool off. I know some people who had cyclamen and when they shut down they eradicated the problem. One guy only closed shop for three days, Ive heard broads stick around longer though. Whatever you have I wish you the best of luck, good luck bro!
Thomas Paine I would try to start seeds at a new location while you clean clean clean your infected area and give it some time to cool off. I know some people who had cyclamen and when they shut down they eradicated the problem. One guy only closed shop for three days, Ive heard broads stick around longer though. Whatever you have I wish you the best of luck, good luck bro!
Correct. Those are not eggs. People are not used to looking at their plants under high magnification, but this is normal and on every plant.
They come from mother nature, and have existed for millenium all around the world. However this does not discount the possibility that they are being deliberately spread, either by the DEA, or by competing dispensaries. There is fierce competition among dispensaries, so what better way to knock off your competition than to give them a reputation of having infected cuts? OTOH, it could just be the natural progression of so many people buying/selling/trading cuts, and people visiting dispensaries where there are infected cuts. You only have to get one mite on your clothing or shoes to introduce them into your grow room. They spread very easily, as they are vectored by white flies and live outside in warm weather areas in great numbers. A gust of wind can carry one into your place, or you can get them on you just by walking outside. Anywhere citrus or other tropical fruits grow will have high numbers of BMs/Cyclamens, ie, Southern California or Florida. It would not surprise me though if some were being spread deliberately. These really are the perfect weapon against cannabis. Diabolical.......
They have been a problem for big agro for a while. Nothing new. I believe that because of the large influx of new herb growers around 2011 to now has made the problem more reported and recognized. Also because of the influx of growers, they have been spread around via clones, teens, trimmers, and bringing others peoples product into your house.
Those bumps on your seedlings aren't eggs. I had broad mites. Was posting pics on this thread after getting new clones and saw those same bumps. Everyone here said they were bm eggs which I found hard to believe since I had treated clones to avid/forbid dunks as well as heat treatments. I decided they were not bm eggs and stopped doing heat treatments after week 5 of flower. I'd day I was right as I was just able to pull down 2 pounds per light without hitting plants hard with nutes. I'm thinking next round with some more training and a tweak to my nutrients I should hit 2.5# per np.
Well, not EVERYONE. There is a big difference between BM eggs, and "trich bumps", for want of a better term. Every seedling/plant has them. This has been pointed out several times.
i suppose the spread of medical laws etc do kinda explain why they have spread like they did, but it doesn't explain why no grower had them before? if they are an old species why were they never seen heard or talked about until recently in cannabis gardens? this is what makes me wonder what is going on. even if they were not spread amongst growers, you still had cannabis growing all over the place, including outdoors. so why did we not even hear about this problem on cannabis until recently? just seems strange thats all. all the old literature never even mentions them as cannabis pests either.
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A theory has been tossed around saying that BMs and other microscopic mites were being mis-diagnosed as molds, mildews, and even the Tobacco Mosaic Virus, resulting in a worse than normal spread because people weren't aware of what they were fighting.
The old literature never mentioned Root Aphids either.
Had those fuckers years ago, dealt with them with Imid 75
Had those fuckers years ago, dealt with them with Imid 75
BINGO! ^^^^ Once I properly diagonosed them, It was easy to think back 3 years to intermittent problems. Clubs have greatly contributed to their proliferation. Sacramento County was at nearly 200 clubs and LA 400 at peak.....that's a lot of shelves of cuts being shared by all. It only takes one infested tray. I purchased cuts 3 times and the seller didn't know what BM's even were. Often we are our own worst enemy......
here's a clue to how insidious these little bastards are.
they were first discovered on mango plants in a greenhouse in washington d.c. in 1904.
they were not recognized as a pest until some sharp cookie with a microscope deduced that they were wht was destroying a lemon grove in ventura, ca until 1979.
that's a whole 75 years that scientists recognized these little buggers but were mistakenly attributing broad mite damage to other things, wherever they found it.
these are trained taxonomists and entomologists we're talking about too. not a bunch of ganja farmers with no trade organization, no peer review, and no academics, who rely on each other's experience as reported in forums like these in place of real hard science.
it sucks if you're wrestling with these things like myself and a thousand other guys have, but given the disadvantages we have, i'd say we're a lot further along on figuring this stuff out than anyone could realistically expect us to be.
that said, i have no idea why root aphids were so hard to ID for so long. they are pretty damn tough to miss.
they were first discovered on mango plants in a greenhouse in washington d.c. in 1904.
they were not recognized as a pest until some sharp cookie with a microscope deduced that they were wht was destroying a lemon grove in ventura, ca until 1979.
that's a whole 75 years that scientists recognized these little buggers but were mistakenly attributing broad mite damage to other things, wherever they found it.
these are trained taxonomists and entomologists we're talking about too. not a bunch of ganja farmers with no trade organization, no peer review, and no academics, who rely on each other's experience as reported in forums like these in place of real hard science.
it sucks if you're wrestling with these things like myself and a thousand other guys have, but given the disadvantages we have, i'd say we're a lot further along on figuring this stuff out than anyone could realistically expect us to be.
that said, i have no idea why root aphids were so hard to ID for so long. they are pretty damn tough to miss.
I got a 150X digital microscope... still cant tell if these are broad mites or what, but it looks like it. Also looks like some biological shit modified to kill off crops. Maybe the last spray I did killed um and now there dead? I don't know, waitin on my avid, damage is getting worse....
Any broad mite identification experts please take a look......
Any broad mite identification experts please take a look......
Broad Mites or Thrips or both?
Broad Mites or Thrips or both?
All of my plants especially in flower are sickly looking.
It looks like they have the symptoms of severe broad mite infestation.
The ones in veg look ill also just not as bad. Here are the bugs on a single veg leaf.
More to follow
Broad Mites or Thrips or both?
All of my plants especially in flower are sickly looking.
It looks like they have the symptoms of severe broad mite infestation.
The ones in veg look ill also just not as bad. Here are the bugs on a single veg leaf.
More to follow
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