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Broad Mites?

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opt1c

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guess the idea is to create an environment to keep the bennies alive on the leaves longer; makes sense... i always try to keep my veg humidity as high as possible... 60% is what i consider the min for veg but i use co2 as well
 
Here's another source for Beauveria bassiana called Naturalis-L

Rosemania's recommending using Indicate 5 with it...

http://rosemania.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product629.html

Greenhouse Product News Magazine is recommending mixing Beauveria bassiana and azadirachtin...

"In addition, insecticides containing the active ingredient azadirachtin and the insect-killing or beneficial fungus Beauveria bassiana (BotaniGard: BioWorks; and Naturalis: OHP, Inc.) appear to be more effective when tank mixed together compared to individual applications. It has been hypothesized that azadirachtin may actually “stress” insects, thus enhancing the efficacy of the beneficial fungus. For example, during the summer months, insect pests such as thrips and aphids molt or shed their skins (cuticles) so rapidly that beneficial fungi are unable to penetrate the insect. The insect sheds off the spore, forming conidia along with the old skin. However, tank mixing azadirachtin with B. bassiana may result in synergism or enhanced efficacy because azadirachtin, an insect growth regulator, may slow down the molting process, thus allowing the insect-killing fungus to penetrate the target insect pest and initiate an infection."

www.gpnmag.com/tank-mixing-revisited-0
 

Thomas Paine

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OG Biowar

OG Biowar

Going on day four after treatment with OG Biowar and I don't see any difference.

Also tried the 325 mg Aspirin when watering. I haven't seen any difference.

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Thomas Paine

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Anyone ever think of using Tanglefoot paste for a pest barrier?

I'm gonna put it around the base of all my outdoor plants, and rub it around the inside of the intake ducting of my room.
 
This is a bit off topic but its the only thread talking about aspirin. I like using earth juice in soil can I use aspirin in EJ? I like to bubble it and I don't adjust ph because its organic. It's really a two part question, will it kill the micro heard, and will I have to adjust ph? Last time i used aspirin it lowered the ph to like 3, I was running advanced so adjusting ph wasn't a problem but I've heard ph adjusters will kill the bennies.
 

Messodas

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Last time i used aspirin it lowered the ph to like 3, I was running advanced so adjusting ph wasn't a problem but I've heard ph adjusters will kill the bennies.

Ou aspirin users, is this possibile ? With aspirin ph3???
And is it really kill bennies?

Regarding mixing it, you can mix it with everything.
 
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OrganicOzarks

I've been using OGBioWar, and though it has definitely helped somewhat, it has not eradicated my problem. The vendor recommended spraying just before lights out because it works best if the RH is 60% or more. During the day, mine tends to be around 45-50%. For those who have had better success with this product, are you keeping the humidity above 60%? What are your temperature / humidity ranges?

I have used it outside(can't control the humidity), and inside in 4 rooms which tend to be over %60. It has worked in all rooms, and anywhere I have sprayed it on my property.

How are you mixing it, and how long has it been since you first sprayed? It took me about a week to see some new non-damaged growth on my plants.

I am actually going to spray some more today on a part of my property that has started to develop some grasshoppers.

I don't even wait for lights out anymore. I spray it when I have the time to do it, and it is usually a couple of hours before lights off. With circulation everything is dry way before lights out.

In veg I have been spraying when the lights turn on. So there is 18 hours of light before the humidity will rise, and it is still working.

I will point out that where I am is pretty humid. So that may be why it is working so well for me.
 

Thomas Paine

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After 5 days - I think I may be seeing some difference in my plants. There is def new growth, and the leaves on all plants have great turgor and are doing the "worship the light" pose.

Also I can see some residue / build-up on the leaves of what kinda looks like hard water residue or PM. Pretty sure it's the various fungus in the OGBiowar growing and doing their thang.
 

LEDNewbie

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Og biowar has a talc carrier. Most likely what your seeing on your leafs.

Also are you guys spraying your biowar tea at full strength? Cause I am.
 

Thomas Paine

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I know it has a talc carrier, I let it sit for 15 minutes and strain off the top, like the direction say.

The buildup wasn't noticeable until today (day 5)

Yes, i am using it full strength. 1 tsp per 1 liter of non-chlorinated water.
 
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OrganicOzarks

I too agree that it is the talc that you are seeing. You will not see the spores unless it colonizes an insect, or the environment is extremely humid.

I sprayed some clones, and one tiny(1/8") corner of a leaf fuzzed up something fierce. So I know it can happen, but again the white residue is most likely talc.

You have to pour that shit slow as hell to not have this happen. I have not mastered that yet.:)
 

Thomas Paine

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re:

re:

Just found this:

Triact 70

Triact 70 is 70% clarified hydrophobic extract of neem oil which can be applied to a wide variety of plant material. Triact 70 provides fungicidal and insecticidal/miticidal activity

Miticide
Triact 70 controls mite populations on ornamentals including spider mites (all stages), broad mites, and rust mites (adults and nymphs). Triact 70’s mode of action against mites is suffocation. Therefore, uniform coverage of the target pest gives best results. Mite egg populations are also controlled by drying out the egg capsule. Triact 70 is safe to use on predatory mites.

* No known resistance as a miticide

Insecticide
Triact 70 controls aphids, whiteflies, and offers thrips suppression. The spray application acts as a suffocant and should be applied before populations reach thresholds of concern. Thorough coverage assures effective control.

* No known resistance as insecticide

From the label:
http://www.ohp.com/PIB/PDF/triact70_802_pib.pdf
 

Thomas Paine

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Thanks you are prob correct about residual talc. It isn't on the bottom of the leaves. The "fuzz" was a bit concerning though LOL

Just found this:

Triact 70

Triact 70 is 70% clarified hydrophobic extract of neem oil which can be applied to a wide variety of plant material. Triact 70 provides fungicidal and insecticidal/miticidal activity

Miticide
Triact 70 controls mite populations on ornamentals including spider mites (all stages), broad mites, and rust mites (adults and nymphs). Triact 70’s mode of action against mites is suffocation. Therefore, uniform coverage of the target pest gives best results. Mite egg populations are also controlled by drying out the egg capsule. Triact 70 is safe to use on predatory mites.

* No known resistance as a miticide

Insecticide
Triact 70 controls aphids, whiteflies, and offers thrips suppression. The spray application acts as a suffocant and should be applied before populations reach thresholds of concern. Thorough coverage assures effective control.

* No known resistance as insecticide

From the label:
http://www.ohp.com/PIB/PDF/triact70_802_pib.pdf
 

talktosamson

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Also experienced the talc residue, Ive tried everything, even strained it through cheese cloth to try and make it stop and still nada, just going to wash them down good right before harvest. Still seeing some eggs on my leaves but very few, cant spot many living mites and my buds are huge and delicious. I still feel like they are coming from the yard, crawling up laying eggs and dying
 

RetroGrow

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This is a bit off topic but its the only thread talking about aspirin. I like using earth juice in soil can I use aspirin in EJ? I like to bubble it and I don't adjust ph because its organic. It's really a two part question, will it kill the micro heard, and will I have to adjust ph? Last time i used aspirin it lowered the ph to like 3, I was running advanced so adjusting ph wasn't a problem but I've heard ph adjusters will kill the bennies.

Been using aspirin for years, and 325 MG of aspirin per gallon barely has an effect on the PH. There is an effect, as aspirin is acidic, but no where near what you are talking about. You are either using way too much, or something else is going on. Even 3 tabs of aspirin per gallon will not lower PH much, and will not harm plants.
Never used "earth Juice", so know nothing about it.
 
Yea I was using 325 per gallon but when I tried to calibrate my blue labs pen today it was going crazy so that was most likely my problem, although it would read somewhat consistently before adding aspirin. Getting new pen tomorrow so we'll see.
 

Messodas

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Og biowar has a talc carrier. Most likely what your seeing on your leafs.

Also are you guys spraying your biowar tea at full strength? Cause I am.

Me too. Hope to see the difference soon. I didn't spray, I've just watered them good. Must be working too or...?

Info about talc:
As an anti-caking agent

By covering animal feedstuff and fertilizers pellets, IMIFabi talcs effectively control moisture and pellet stickiness, there by increasing flowability out of the silos and processing plants.

As a carrier: the talc powder is used as inert carrier of fertilizers, phyto-pharmaceuticals and pest-control preparations.

Good day
 
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OrganicOzarks

Me too. Hope to see the difference soon. I didn't spray, I've just watered them good. Must be working too or...?

Info about talc:
As an anti-caking agent

By covering animal feedstuff and fertilizers pellets, IMIFabi talcs effectively control moisture and pellet stickiness, there by increasing flowability out of the silos and processing plants.

As a carrier: the talc powder is used as inert carrier of fertilizers, phyto-pharmaceuticals and pest-control preparations.

Good day

OGBIOWAR must be applied to the leaf surface. I hope when you "watered" them you watered the leaf surface.
 

Messodas

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No, "watered" is ment like soil drench...
The plants are in 5th week of flowering, spraying is not an option...

I don't care. I will stick with aspirin and heat treatment this round.
Thanks Retro!

I've being playing them all day long

Rudimental - Feel The Love ft. John Newman (Live in Session)

This must help.

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