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Perhaps a broadmite FAQ needs to be stickied to replace this more Q&A style thread.
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Broad Mites?
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Or a "solution only" thread, locked up.
since I cant seem to find the solution anywhere (went through a lot of pages of discussion) Ima do it like this:
day 1: 3 in 1 safer insect spray
day 2: Captain Jacks deadbug spinosad
day 3: master nursery year round pest fighter oil
day 4: azamax
day 5: flouramite
day 6: avid
and see if that doesn't stop um.
day 1: 3 in 1 safer insect spray
day 2: Captain Jacks deadbug spinosad
day 3: master nursery year round pest fighter oil
day 4: azamax
day 5: flouramite
day 6: avid
and see if that doesn't stop um.
^^^Thats like putting your plants in a stray jacket, and slapping them with a open wet shitty diaper lol..I dont think they'll take that well
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cut floramite it doesn't kill broads, substitute with Forbid/Judo which kills adults, juvies, and eggs.
replace captain jacks with Conserve SC (concentrated Spinosad)
and consider adding other broad mite killing miticides like Akari or Pylon (Phantom is cheaper.)
ahh now were getting somewhere, thanks holmes!
greekgardner
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go with the heavy stuff first,avid and forbid,knocked mine out along with the heat treatment,been a month and all my plants are gorgeous again...........the big guns are needed againt these fuckers.......
Last stand
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Hey guys I just started some new seeds after a nasty cyclamen invasion, I did it at a different location that we thoroughly cleaned with all new equipment. Has anyone ever looked at a seed through a scope before? they just popped about 3 days ago and when I looked at them at 150-200x they're covered top and bottom of leaf in little white bumps. It's a brand new building and its never been grown in, everything was cleaned-washed over and over so I dont think it's cyclamen but I'm a little paranoid after throwing out 20 years of strains and seed stock. keep in mind these are still the baby leaves your looking at so I dont know how a breakout like that could happen so fast.
Broad Mites
Broad Mites
I have been battling these things for over a year. Been through all the mis-judged conditions (TMV, cal-mag def, nute lock-out, bad water)
Finally scoped my plants and found hella eggs.
Treated with Forbid a couple times, 5 days apart, for a couple weeks.
Didn't work.
Treated with Avid. Doesn't seem to be working, still see eggs a week later, damage is progressing.
I lost my entire operation - including really cherished strains: White OG Kush v1 (Karma), Kosher Kush (Reserva), Platinum OG Kush, White Fire OG (OGRaskal), my own purple GSC, Double Dream
Everything is dead or dying. except for a few small newbies that I kept after redoing the entire room. They look like shit.
Completely cleaned my whole room with Physan, got all new plastic where possible, redid the mylar on the walls. Sprayed everything with avid. Then sprayed again. Bug bombed the entire house.
Thought everything was clean - got new clones. GSC, Cherry Pie, Fire OG Kush. Within 1 week, everything started showing signs. Scoped them, they have lots of eggs.
Now here is the really messed up thing. After scoping a leaf with eggs, I didn't want to just throw it out, so I put it in a bowl and poured 35% Hydrogen Peroxide on it. Figured I would put a scope on the leaf and see frying eggs.... NOPE.
The 35% Hydrogen Peroxide did nothing to them, not at all. 35% will burn human skin with a quickness.
I ordered the OGBio War. I hope that works.
If not I am ready to jump off a cliff, I am at wits end and out of money. Lost everything, selling my possessions just to stay afloat.
Broad Mites
I have been battling these things for over a year. Been through all the mis-judged conditions (TMV, cal-mag def, nute lock-out, bad water)
Finally scoped my plants and found hella eggs.
Treated with Forbid a couple times, 5 days apart, for a couple weeks.
Didn't work.
Treated with Avid. Doesn't seem to be working, still see eggs a week later, damage is progressing.
I lost my entire operation - including really cherished strains: White OG Kush v1 (Karma), Kosher Kush (Reserva), Platinum OG Kush, White Fire OG (OGRaskal), my own purple GSC, Double Dream
Everything is dead or dying. except for a few small newbies that I kept after redoing the entire room. They look like shit.
Completely cleaned my whole room with Physan, got all new plastic where possible, redid the mylar on the walls. Sprayed everything with avid. Then sprayed again. Bug bombed the entire house.
Thought everything was clean - got new clones. GSC, Cherry Pie, Fire OG Kush. Within 1 week, everything started showing signs. Scoped them, they have lots of eggs.
Now here is the really messed up thing. After scoping a leaf with eggs, I didn't want to just throw it out, so I put it in a bowl and poured 35% Hydrogen Peroxide on it. Figured I would put a scope on the leaf and see frying eggs.... NOPE.
The 35% Hydrogen Peroxide did nothing to them, not at all. 35% will burn human skin with a quickness.
I ordered the OGBio War. I hope that works.
If not I am ready to jump off a cliff, I am at wits end and out of money. Lost everything, selling my possessions just to stay afloat.
Last Stand - those are def broad mote eggs. Exactly what mine look like.
My seedlings make it to the first set of single leaves and then al just "burn-away' after that point.
I stopped starting new seeds until I conquer this. I cannot afford to keep popping super expensive beans of rare strains only to see them go to shit.
One question - did you make the seeds form your own plants, or did you start new seeds that you bought? Maybe they came with the seeds if you made them from infested plants?
My seedlings make it to the first set of single leaves and then al just "burn-away' after that point.
I stopped starting new seeds until I conquer this. I cannot afford to keep popping super expensive beans of rare strains only to see them go to shit.
One question - did you make the seeds form your own plants, or did you start new seeds that you bought? Maybe they came with the seeds if you made them from infested plants?
Last stand
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Those are bought seeds, I threw away all my genetics and seed stock to be safe. I'm not convinced they're eggs yet, I've never grown here and it's all new equipment. I dont think it's possible to have. 60 seeds covered top and bottom of leaves in 3 or 4 days in a location with no mite infestation. But then again this thing has really been a nasty experience for me so who knows.
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Thanks for the info on the seeds.
I have 12 autoflowering beans I popped that i started in my backyard, away from my growroom, figuring it would give them a better chance.
Scoping them they look just like yours, and the new growth after that first leaf is burnt and starting to deform on every single plant.
Total waste of money. Now I can't even flower outside anymore. Pulled off crops before in my yard no problem.
Maybe they have a propensity to attack (flock to) newly grown leaf tissue on young plants since they don't have the built up resistance of an older established plant.
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Thanks for the info on the seeds.
I have 12 autoflowering beans I popped that i started in my backyard, away from my growroom, figuring it would give them a better chance.
Scoping them they look just like yours, and the new growth after that first leaf is burnt and starting to deform on every single plant.
Total waste of money. Now I can't even flower outside anymore. Pulled off crops before in my yard no problem.
Maybe they have a propensity to attack (flock to) newly grown leaf tissue on young plants since they don't have the built up resistance of an older established plant.
man these things are starting to sound really bad, makes you wonder where they came from.
from what i read here in the last few pages, these fuckers are sounding more and more like a bio weapon against growers. i mean shit, they seem resistant as hell to nearly everything.
from what i read here in the last few pages, these fuckers are sounding more and more like a bio weapon against growers. i mean shit, they seem resistant as hell to nearly everything.
Some old dude
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Not probable
Not probable
Although it's not probable I have been thinking this same way for many years. After growing for thirty five years I could not believe how there could be a more perfect cannabis destroying machine than these little B-tards. Everytime I see "con-trails" from large unmarked jet aircraft overhead hehe, but that's just my conspiracy mind racing ..lol..This mite has been around a very long time from my reading it's just not been experience like this in indoor growing in North America imho. The original bug could of very well been "Altered" though to be highly resistant to natural and chemical factors. And even selected for breeding qualities.I might as well add ...the natural enemy's of this pest seem to be lacking in quantity (outdoors) although where I live it gets hot enough to kill them off in the summer.Then comes the quandary, the gosh dang toxins that the bugs produce keep the plant sick...? Why in the hell would mother nature create such a creature that destroys it's own food source...? does not sound like a good plan for survival of the bug...? A major problem is the tiny microscopic size and ability to cause severe damage with small numbers. That's why I have so much hope for the Biological approach . From my reading fungus spores will actually get passed on to the other mites on the plant infesting them easily and possibly with regular spaying eliminate the colony and even flying and crawling insects (vectors) will actually land on a plant then leave again carrying the spores with it where ever it goes infecting other populations even if it goes back outside.
Not probable
Although it's not probable I have been thinking this same way for many years. After growing for thirty five years I could not believe how there could be a more perfect cannabis destroying machine than these little B-tards. Everytime I see "con-trails" from large unmarked jet aircraft overhead hehe, but that's just my conspiracy mind racing ..lol..This mite has been around a very long time from my reading it's just not been experience like this in indoor growing in North America imho. The original bug could of very well been "Altered" though to be highly resistant to natural and chemical factors. And even selected for breeding qualities.I might as well add ...the natural enemy's of this pest seem to be lacking in quantity (outdoors) although where I live it gets hot enough to kill them off in the summer.Then comes the quandary, the gosh dang toxins that the bugs produce keep the plant sick...? Why in the hell would mother nature create such a creature that destroys it's own food source...? does not sound like a good plan for survival of the bug...? A major problem is the tiny microscopic size and ability to cause severe damage with small numbers. That's why I have so much hope for the Biological approach . From my reading fungus spores will actually get passed on to the other mites on the plant infesting them easily and possibly with regular spaying eliminate the colony and even flying and crawling insects (vectors) will actually land on a plant then leave again carrying the spores with it where ever it goes infecting other populations even if it goes back outside.
Last stand
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I have some suspicions as well, I've been doing this since the 90's and never heard of anything like this then all the sudden everyone around here is shutting down due to cyclamen. I guess we'll know for sure when Monsanto comes out with a gmo Frankenstein weed that can withstand these things.
I don't have hot soil. I use Canna coco, with Canna Start and roots excel at 1 ml per gallon
I have rooted seeds no problem for years.
I have rooted seeds no problem for years.
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