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http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/3546369-181/explosions-fire-destroy-rural-santa?page=2

Explosions, fire destroy rural Santa Rosa home

Explosions jolted residents in a rural neighborhood west of Santa Rosa on Wednesday, sending them out of their homes to the sight of a single-story house engulfed by flames and black smoke.

Fire destroyed the Ramondo Drive home, burned a car to its frame and killed three cats, firefighters said. One tenant of the ranch-style house got out of the home as fire erupted. Firefighters prevented the blaze from spreading to nearby homes and vegetation.

Firefighters found hundreds of butane gas containers inside and outside the gutted house, Central Fire Authority Investigator Cyndi Foreman said. The canisters, which were likely the source of at least some of the explosions, led firefighters to alert the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office, Foreman said. She declined to say why they were suspicious.

A tenant of the burned home sat across the street and watched as firefighters attacked the blaze Wednesday. A woman with him said they would not comment.

ChiKay Hardy, who owns the Ramondo Drive home and lives in Colorado, said she first learned about the fire from her tenant, who had lived there for about a year with his wife, their 3-year-old daughter and several cats. The wife and child weren’t home, according to firefighters.

“He was crying, hysterical,” Hardy said. “They’ve lost everything.”

She said she was not aware of any illegal activity on the property.

The home is one of the few rented properties in the rural neighborhood off Irwin Lane between Highway 12 and Occidental Road, neighbors said.

The first of several calls reporting explosions and flames came in to 911 dispatchers at 10:35 a.m., Santa Rosa Fire Battalion Chief Mike Jones said. Santa Rosa firefighters worked with Rincon Valley, Sebastopol, Windsor and Gold Ridge fire crews.

Next door to the burning home, Ryan Voigt, 23, was asleep when an explosion woke him up.

“Chaos,” he said, describing the scene. “The neighbors were out. They were crying.”

“I first thought someone was shooting a gun,” said Jeff Griffeath, 63, who lives across the street. “There were individual explosions a few seconds apart. I came outside and the place was up in flames.”

A tall column of dark smoke rose up over the neighborhood, prompting Jim Kracke, an off-duty fire captain with the Glen Ellen Fire Protection District, to pull off Highway 12 and investigate the source of the smoke.

“When you see a black column of smoke like that, you know it’s something,” said Kracke, who helped responding firefighters set up hoses to battle the flames.

The fire originated in a garage that had been converted into a room, where firefighters found many of the butane gas containers, Foreman said. Investigators were unable to immediately determine how the fire started because of the extent of the damage, she said. Sheriff’s officials couldn’t be reached Wednesday about the case.

She said they would continue to look into the fire’s cause, including reviewing the 911 phone calls and viewing any video footage taken by bystanders. They were still waiting to interview the tenants.

Hardy said she raised her children at the Ramondo Drive home, where they lived from 2001 until 2010, the year her husband, Charles, died of cancer. That year, they moved away and began renting the property.

The current tenant, whom she did not identify, was a friend of her son, Kirby, who was killed in a vehicle crash in 2007.

“All I know is they are good people,” Hardy said of her tenants. “They are good people, and this is just heartbreaking. Even a house can be replaced, but they lost everything.”
 

jump /injack

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42 pages of reasons not to process cannabis in you home or apartment, when will it dawn on these idiots that this isn't very smart. Everything burned and the family are on the street with nothing, their pets are burned alive and his wife and child are homeless. Now the process of lawyers, police, DA's, adjudication and incarceration starts.

There has been no explosions or fires with closed systems to my knowledge. Most have been home extractions, in the kitchen and random electrical sparks, from clothing, refrigerators and light switches, etc. Its really a crap shoot, it will happen if you do it enough times, its odds and probabilities.
 
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I just heard about a BHOtard fire in Oakland through the grape vine. The fire department apparently didn't even call the police even after telling the residents they knew EXACTLY caused the fire. WTF. It is Oakland I guess..
 

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"Marijuana is the bomb

By Kimberly Hartke February 20 at 5:24 PM

Landlords, tenants and homeowners have an unexpected new worry: legalized marijuana.

Already, marijuana use is an issue for D.C. landlords under decriminalization. One owner of 350 rentals in the city is about to add a no-smoking clause to his lease. He has always advertised his properties as non-smoking. But he is getting an increasing number of complaints from tenants in his buildings about the pungent odor from dope-smoking.

The latest trend in the marijuana subculture is the smoking of “dabs” of marijuana concentrate. This highly concentrated form of marijuana is expensive but growing in popularity for recreational use. And it’s explosive — literally.
Because of the expense of buying marijuana concentrate at a dispensary or pot shop, marijuana users are following Internet instructions to manufacture the most potent, concentrated form of the drug, known as BHO (butane hash oil or butane honey oil), at home. Besides dabs, street names for the drug also include 710, wax, honey oil and shatter.

Colorado saw 32 home explosions in 2014, up from 11 in 2013, triggered by attempts to make BHO. Butane is a highly volatile solvent and a flammable gas at room temperature. When cooling, or without proper ventilation, it can easily explode with a ball of fire, blowing out windows, causing property damage and putting neighbors at risk. This is particularly of concern to multilevel housing units such as motels, condominiums and apartments.

Because a large number of D.C. residents live in multi-unit housing, we must take note.

According to an Oregon newspaper report last May, fires and explosions from BHO production sent 17 people to a Portland burn unit in 16 months. The explosions caused numerous injuries, extensive property damage and at least one death in Oregon.

A horrific BHO explosion occurred in November 2013 in Bellevue, Wash. All 10 units of an apartment building were destroyed, and residents jumped from second- and third-story windows. The explosion and fire caused $1.5 million in damage to the building and the loss of $150,000 in belongings. Seven people were hospitalized. A former town mayor, an elderly woman who lived in the building, died from a pelvic injury sustained trying to escape the fire. Several weeks before this incident, police were called to investigate suspected BHO activity. Two men suspected of making BHO denied it.
On Oct. 31, a multi-unit apartment building in Walnut Creek, Calif., went up in flames because of BHO. One explosion near Sacramento displaced 140 people. The Sacramento Bee reported that Shriners Hospitals for Children-Northern California treated 68 victims for BHO burns in a three-year period. The average child was burned on 28 percent of the body.

There is no sign the spate of explosions in these Western states will end anytime soon.
In California, law enforcement unsuccessfully tried to get marijuana concentrates banned. Once marijuana advocates get what they want, it will be very difficult to stop marijuana in any form, including the “bomb,” BHO.

The recently passed D.C. Initiative 71, which would allow personal possession, did not outlaw, fine or hold accountable amateur hash oil manufacturing in a residential setting. Retail sales of marijuana in the District would bring a rash of explosions.

Landlords, homeowners and tenants who want to protect their lives, property and fortunes need to rally against any law that will allow the commercialization of marijuana in our nation’s capital. We in the suburbs are not immune, as marijuana use will skyrocket in Virginia and Maryland if the D.C. Council legitimizes head shops, pot shops and hash oil manufacturers and growers.

The writer is a Northern Virginia landlord and blogger."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...1f3266-b6b9-11e4-aa05-1ce812b3fdd2_story.html

Different viewpoint than the usual news story.


Btw, Bret Maverick just put up a new YouTube video showing his legal, passive CLS setup. What I want you to see is his simple positive pressure ventilation arrangement, as he points out, the exhaust vent definitely needs to be lower.

http://youtu.be/WBbgqKNJ9XU?t=1s
 
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Cannabis use is not "skyrocketting" anywhere....... Lets compare BHOtard mistakes to alcohol related automobile accidents, that will even make the BHOtards harming children look like angels! I bet she's sippin' a nice glass of Cab while she's bloggin' away. I agree that dangerous practices need to be stopped, but I'm sick of people treating this like a meth epidemic, or the prescription drug epidemic(which cannabis is helping). There wouldn't be enough room on this page to list all the stories of drunks destroying lives everyday...... We would need a whole new forum. Thanks for letting me vent, I'm just tired of idiots in any form...
 

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http://www.desertsun.com/story/news...-explosion-knights-inn-palm-springs/23897963/



Butane honey oil explosion cause of Knights Inn fire

Denise Goolsby, The Desert Sun 2:47 p.m. PST February 23, 2015
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A butane honey oil explosion in one of the rooms at the Knights Inn in Palm Springs was the cause of the fire Sunday, Palm Springs authorities said Monday.
At 1:41 p.m. on Sunday, Palm Springs police and fire departments responded to a structure fire at 1450 S. Palm Canyon Dr. and, upon arriving, saw smoke coming from one of the rooms. Police found the four people who had been in the room at the time of the explosion in the nearby parking lot.
Police learned that one of the subjects was attempting to manufacture Butane Honey Oil (BHO) inside of the room when the explosion occurred, Sgt. Harvey Reed said in a news release.
BHO is an extremely potent form of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the chemical responsible for most of marijuana's psychological effects, Reed said in the release.
The process of extracting THC from marijuana to manufacture BHO is a dangerous process.
During this process, marijuana is tightly packed into an extraction device. During the different purification methods, butane -- a flammable gas that is odorless, colorless, and heavier than air -- can evaporate out of the substance and collect on the floor, accumulating to explosive levels without proper ventilation. It is thought that during this process, an explosion occurred within the room.
The occupants of the room were a man, woman and two teenage males. All four, who resided in Cathedral City, were taken to nearby hospitals. The two adults and one of the teenagers remain hospitalized in critical condition, officials said Monday.
Due to the nature of the incident, specialized investigative personnel from the Coachella Valley Narcotics Task Force, Riverside County Sheriff's Department Special Investigations Bureau, CAL Fire Hazardous Materials Unit and the Riverside County Department of Health responded to the location to assist Palm Springs police and fire.
The criminal investigation is ongoing and no other details will be released at this time, Reed said in the news release.
 

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http://www.firehouse.com/news/11849...rural-santa-rosa-calif-home-destroyed-by-fire


Prevention & Investigation
Hash Oil Explosions, Fire Destroy Calif. Home
Julie Johnson On Feb 20, 2015
Source: The Press Democrat, Santa Rosa, Calif.

Feb. 20--Sheriff's detectives suspect that a home west of Santa Rosa that went up in flames Wednesday amid a series of explosions was the site of a hash oil operation based on equipment they said was found in the aftermath of the destructive fire.

As the battled the blaze that gutted the house on Ramondo Drive, fire crews on Wednesday encountered hundreds of small butane fuel cannisters and other potential evidence of drug activity both indoors and outside the home, fire investigators said.

On Thursday, Sonoma County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Gossett said the presence of butane gas cannisters in such quantities was an immediate sign of potential illegal drug activity. The sheriff's narcotics team launched an investigation and have found additional evidence, although Gossett declined to go into detail about what they've discovered so far. Detectives have not yet made any arrests, he said.

"We're going to try to piece together as much as possible, but we won't be able to get every piece of the puzzle because of the potential that (evidence) was destroyed in the fire," Gossett said.

The blaze was the latest linked to the dangerous use of butane -- a highly flammable gas -- in the production of hash oil.

In November, two Ukiah men were hospitalized with burns caused by an explosion and fire in a shed where police said they were making hash oil.

That incident was one of five similar explosions reported last year in Mendocino and Sonoma Counties, according to Press Democrat archives. In 2013, a Santa Rosa man suffered burns across more than half his body in an explosion when he was making hash oil in a kitchen, according to police.

Production techniques vary, but one common method involves pumping butane fuel through a tube to extract THC, the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis, from marijuana trimmings. The result is a potent, waxy extract known by several names, including hash oil and honey oil.

Hash Oil Labs Create Danger

Central Fire Authority Investigator Cyndi Foreman said fire investigators have not determined precisely how the fire started. She said they are taking a close look at the butane cannisters, which when used can cause flammable gas to build up inside a home. Fire can spark if the gas is ignited, and there are many ways that can happen, from switching on a light to the pilot light on a stove, she said.

But fire investigators were also looking into other possible causes for the flames unrelated to the cannisters, Foreman said.

"It's one of the obvious suspected causes," she said.

Fire investigators and detectives were still waiting to interview the tenants, a couple, who lived at the property with their 3-year child, Gossett and Foreman said.

It wasn't clear who was home at the time, and whether the child was present during the suspected drug production.

Bystanders told firefighters a woman with a child escaped the fire, but they were not in the area as fire crews hosed down the home, the investigators said.

"From some of the video footage, statements by bystanders and photographs, it appears that the family was in the home at the time the fire broke out," Foreman said.

A man who escaped the fire and watched as firefighters hosed down the house wouldn't talk with fire investigators Wednesday, Foreman said. She said the man could have been distraught by watching his home burn and she hoped he would reconsider and speak with authorities as the case continued.

Gossett said that several hours after the fire the male resident said he was experiencing breathing trouble and was taken to a hospital.
 

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Due to the nature of the incident, specialized investigative personnel from the Coachella Valley Narcotics Task Force, Riverside County Sheriff's Department Special Investigations Bureau, CAL Fire Hazardous Materials Unit and the Riverside County Department of Health responded to the location to assist Palm Springs police and fire.
The criminal investigation is ongoing and no other details will be released at this time, Reed said in the news release.

The nature of the incident? 4 idiots in a hotel room with $40 in butane from the corner store? How many assholes do the people of California need to employee because 4 idiots acted like idiots?

Me thinks the government is fucking off once again.

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I think they meant because 3 people were in critical condition. Not because of 'The Nature' as such.
Why did you make 'Personnel' so big?
 

Hydrosun

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I think they meant because 3 people were in critical condition. Not because of 'The Nature' as such.
Why did you make 'Personnel' so big?

Because that is all that matters. How many tax dollars can the douche bags piss away and get the gullible people of California to bend over and pay for it.

Why are so many employees needed if 4 idiots blow themselves up in a hotel room?

What can they possibly learn that will be of ANY value to California tax payers?

What the hell is going on here?

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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...e-hash-oil-alarms-east-bay-fire-investigator/




PITTSBURG (KCBS) – A growing trend among marijuana users of using highly flammable butane to create hash oil has firefighters in Contra Costa County on edge about potentially explosive fires that can lead to serious injuries.

Since 2011 when Contra Costa County firefighters first became aware of the crude, volatile process used to extract the main active ingredient from marijuana to create butane hash oil, also known as butane honey oil, there have been eight fires, said fire investigator Vic Massenkoff.

“Almost every person that’s been involved in a butane hash oil fire or explosion has been airlifted to a burn unit,” he said.


East Bay Firefighter Investigator Alarmed By Popularity of Butane Hash Oil
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Honey hash oil typically comes from packing pot into an open PVC pipe with a screen on the other end, then injecting butane as a solvent for the tetrahydrocannabinol.

“They’re taking their shake, basically what’s left over from the good part of the marijuana, and they’re processing it using butane,” Massenkoff said.

“It comes out a liquid, but starts to vaporize immediately.”

And even the how-to videos that have proliferated on YouTube acknowledge just how easy it is to accidentally ignite butane, often advising smokers not to light up anywhere nearby.

Massenkoff said the results in Contra Costa County have been nothing short of spectacular.

“We’ve had the roofs lift off of homes. We’ve had houses blown off their foundations,” he said.

Making honey oil is a felony charged under the same section as operating a meth lab.



 

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Because that is all that matters. How many tax dollars can the douche bags piss away and get the gullible people of California to bend over and pay for it.

Why are so many employees needed if 4 idiots blow themselves up in a hotel room?

What can they possibly learn that will be of ANY value to California tax payers?

What the hell is going on here?

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Working with dangerous unknowns is tough.
 
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Hydrosun

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Working with dangerous unknowns is tough.

Perhaps there should be another 10 or 100 or 1,000 detectives to deal with these tough unknowns????

What exactly is tough about four idiots in a hotel room with $40 in butane from the corner store????

How has the great state of California not cracked the great riddle of what can happen in a hotel room with $40 in butane???

How much money is this dangerous unknown worth to the state of CA and when will we learn what the dangerous unknown was????

Are government officials the right people to tackle anything tough???

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http://abc7.com/news/hash-oil-lab-found-at-scene-of-apartment-explosion-fire/523370/

Hash oil lab found at scene of Rosemead apartment explosion


By Janet Kinnaman
Wednesday, February 18, 2015
ROSEMEAD, Calif. (KABC) --
A marijuana oil extraction laboratory was found at a Rosemead residential complex, where an explosion and fire forced residents to evacuate.

The incident occurred around 4 p.m. Tuesday. At least 100 residents from 36 townhomes were evacuated.

Los Angeles County sheriff's officials said they found a possible "honey oil" extraction lab at the location. Investigators were collecting more evidence from the scene on Wednesday.

Evacuated residents were allowed to return to their units a few hours later. Officials said three townhomes were damaged in the fire and one firefighter suffered minor burns to his ears.

The investigation is ongoing. If you have any information about this incident, you're urged to contact the Los Angeles Interagency Metropolitan Police Apprehension Crime Task Force at (323) 869-6874. You can also provide anonymous tips by calling Crime Stoppers at (800) 222-TIPS.

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Dabs—marijuana's explosive secret
Celia Watson Seupel, Special to CNBC
Wednesday, 26 Feb 2014 | 12:37 PM ETCNBC.com
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Two months into Colorado's great marijuana experiment, a single trend may be poised to tarnish the "natural and healthy" image of legal weed: hash oil concentrate. Washington, the next state to roll out legal recreational marijuana, has banned it. Colorado is trying to regulate it.

Hash oil concentrate, a powerful distillation of marijuana's essential active ingredients, is mixed into many new and popular cannabis products: edibles, drinks and liquids that can be "smoked" in vaporizer pens like e-cigarettes. The problem-child of concentrates may turn out to be the actual concentrate itself—a hardened or viscous mass of cannabinoids created via a process of butane-gas extraction.

Making it can be explosive. In fact, all over the country, people have been exploding kitchens and basements trying to make their own butane hash oil.
Nicholas Broms, who was involved in a drug-related explosion last November. Broms was one of the growing number of casualties from manufacturing hash oil, a potent marijuana byproduct made with butane.
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And smoking it—a new craze called "dabbing," because a little dab'll do ya—is giving an intense high miles beyond the mellow effects of a joint.

Hash oil concentrate isn't new, but the current version is. The recent incarnation appeared on the scene only about four years ago, according to marijuana.com.

Concentrate is an extremely potent form of THC, the psychoactive element in marijuana. According to Brian Ruden, owner of Starbuds, a marijuana dispensary in Denver, while regular marijuana might contain 15 or 18 percent THC, hash oil concentrate gets closer to 80 or even 90 percent.

The high that a user gets from concentrates is far from natural, and the method by which hash oil is made sounds anything but healthy. Marijuana trim (or sometimes bud) is infused with a hydrocarbon, usually butane gas. The butane strips the THC and some other cannabinoids out of the plant when the mix is put under intense pressure. In addition to marijuana concentrate, the goopy stuff that emerges is laced with butane. This has to be cooked down to remove the residual chemical. The result (if the cook doesn't blow up; butane is explosive) is a glassy substance called "shatter" or "wax."

In part, the bad press for concentrates may be a little unfair. People blowing up their kitchens trying to make butane hash oil at home doesn't mean hash oil itself is bad. Fires and explosions all over Colorado have alarmed lawmakers and the media alike. In Aurora, where marijuana sales are still illegal, there have been four butane hash oil explosions in the past four months, the most recent landing two young men in the hospital with burns after they blew out the windows of their apartment.

According to Julie Postlethwait, spokeswoman for Colorado's Marijuana Enforcement Division, new safety rules for the manufacture of concentrates are slated to go into effect on March 2. They include ensuring an industrial hygienist or professional engineer approves manufacturing equipment, and having eyewash available on site. But, she said, they apply only to Colorado's commercial marijuana industry. "Individuals have the right to grow their own plants."

Can they make their own concentrate? "Yes, legally," Postlethwait said. "It's up to local authorities, cities and towns and counties. They can prohibit the manufacture of concentrates. I don't know if they are."

Local authorities may not know if they are, either. Many officials seem confused about the details of current marijuana law. According to Colorado's Municipal League's "Election Results Retail Marijuana," only one town, Gunnison, specifically establishes "standards for home cultivation" and "personal processing." Other municipalities prohibit "marijuana product manufacturing facilities," but that could be interpreted as commercial production, leaving the door open for making concentrate privately.

Localities can forbid as many of Amendment 64's rights as they want, and many have, at least for now. Aurora's moratorium on all cannabis enterprise will be in effect until May 5. "Manufacturing of hash oil," City Attorney George Zierk said, "is illegal in Aurora." According to Aurora police officer Frank Fania, at least one of the young men involved in Aurora's most recent hash oil explosion has been charged with a crime: reckless endangerment, but not hash oil manufacturing.

Having gotten past the bad press created by stupendously unsophisticated people cooking dangerous concentrates in the kitchen, there's still the unhealthy, Breaking-Bad image of actually smoking the concentrates, called "dabbing."

To smoke dabs, you need concentrate ("shatter" or its softer cousin, "earwax"), a small, sturdy pick, a specially crafted bong and a blowtorch.
Three people suffered minor burns in an August explosion at a Mount Vernon, Wash., apartment, where authorities said they were trying to extract hash oil from marijuana by using butane.
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Three people suffered minor burns in an August explosion at a Mount Vernon, Wash., apartment, where authorities said they were trying to extract hash oil from marijuana by using butane.

You twirl a dab of the concentrate onto the pick, apply a blowtorch that looks like it belongs in an auto mechanic's shop to the bowl of the bong until it's glowing hot, then touch the dab to a nailhead inside the bowl. The dab vaporizes instantaneously and the user sucks up the smoke—almost pure THC.

"Dabs have become a culture unto themselves," said Harrison Garcia, a salesman at Denver's Green Solution dispensary and blogger for Weedist.com. "There are serious 'dab people' who only dab and do not even smoke flower because it's just not strong enough for them."

Despite the media interest and hype, dabbers still seem to be a small minority of users. Elan Nelson, head of business strategy and development for Medicine Man, a large Denver dispensary, says about only 10 percent of their sales goes to dabbing concentrates.

"You have to have a very high THC tolerance," Nelson said. "We're not really recommending it."

Starbuds' Ruden concurs. Dabbing concentrates aren't a big portion of his sales. "Although we sell a lot of concentrate, we sell much more flower and edibles," Ruden said via email. "One limiting factor is the concentrate supply, we keep running out."

A more enthusiastic Austin Gilliam, general manager of Kine Mine, an Idaho Springs, Color., dispensary, puts it this way: "It's flying off the shelves. We have it back-ordered from the manufacturer now. It's a trend. It seems to be very popular with the young people."

Popularity with the young people is just what Steve Millette, executive director of CeDAR, the University of Colorado Hospital's residential rehab, worries about. The younger a person begins to indulge, the more likely he or she will become addicted, Millette said, adding that concentrates are "like going from a glass of beer to a glass of whisky."

"Addiction isn't the only problem. There's also mental illness," he said.

Millette, who thinks legalization was a mistake, sees marijuana leading to "a motivational syndrome," a condition in which a person becomes apathetic and loses the interest and the will to do much of anything. And since young adults are at a particularly vulnerable age when it comes to psychosis, Millette feels the popularity of marijuana concentrates poses a particular danger to them.

"If there's already a predisposition [to mental illness], putting a concentrated toxic substance into the brain can be dangerous."

"Marijuana," he said, "is not harmless. It is not safe."

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration recently moved to create a new drug code for marijuana extracts. They want to track it as a separate entity.

"It's not for beginners," Medicine Man's Nelson said.

—By Celia Watson Seupel, special to CNBC
 

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The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration recently moved to create a new drug code for marijuana extracts. They want to track it as a separate entity.

Oh to be a brown shirt in 1944, how frustrating it must be to see all the Jews openly preparing this new form of cannabis. Perhaps another fascist edict from the fuhrer will put the jews back in their place....

History repeating :D

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