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Are old genetics.. just plain out of date now?

funkyhorse

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Well, the story of this Santa Maria is very clear
Stolen cut of fake weed from a sect of Satan cocksuckers in Usa coming from another owner of a cannabis magazine.
It is placebo weed used to exert mind control and influence over others
Padrinhos thinking they take the evil out of the kid by pounding the little kids asses and forcing women to suck their cocks it is not an exclusivity and trademark of Usa culture
In Brazil happens same thing. And it happens in all of the different churches, be it evangelistic, catholic, whatever.
There are two different pathes: the path of power and the path of knowledge and they oppose each other

Dear Cees, for ancient cultures what you are describing has happened with this garbage is called karma
You know it is stolen and you know it is used for exerting hierarchy, prestige, power and dominance over others, what blessings can come out of this garbage?



No wonder weed is so degraded. If it is coming from Usa it is a Hollywood and if it is coming from Europe it is Fellini or Buñuel, surrealistic stories and magic realism at best
The result is a lot of ego, prestige, power and hype and very little high

Real spiritual weed is not narcotic and is not a fast munchies highway. It is creeper high sativa weed
You cannot pray nor think correctly when you are too hungry.
Cees, it is obvious your stock is fake and has absolutely no blessings
Thanks for posting this to both @goingrey and Cees for clearing this shit up
 

Mudballs2.0

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my fake hollywood weed that has no spirituality
 

Bio.Dynamic

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I'm glad we got to find out what the original genetics are and that the original poster has continued to contribute to chaos they have unleashed.
 

harvestreaper

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Someone I know has a bunch of old genetics/seeds (2006-2010'ish) , which are probably mostly dead now from age. But not totally dead.
Question would be, why bother if they are all outdated and low THC stuff compared to the thousands and thousands of new "strains" that seem to be everywhere? Nobody had THC % reports on any of that old stuff.
everything good today ,,came from something good from the past ,,,,
 

JKD

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ICEFLU is the Brazilian religion/spiritual group that refer to cannabis as Santa Maria.
 

harvestreaper

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Idk yet she's still out there doing her thing. That's an f2 of Wedding Cake i made from f5 seeds i got from from a guy in Alaska. Still dont know his name. He made his using
Jungle Boys WC x Seed Junky WC F4's
thanks for reply,,, my mistake i assumed it was santa maria lol ,,,only heard of wedding cake not smoked it ,,wouldnt an f2 of f5s be an f6 ?
 

Hammerhead

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The best advice I could give everyone is to not focus on what others like/dislike. If something interests you don't discount it until you grow it. It only matters what ea of us likes.. There are plenty of plants I don't like at all and others love. Growing up in Cali from the 60's on some batches was better than many of what people call top shelf today. Finding those next level plants is not easy to find. The interest in making Haze hybrids in the USA has never been higher than it is today. Some of those old genetics were lost due to the war on drugs. Lots of these original genetics got hybridized. They're not the same as they use to be. Everyone keeps using the same hyped genetics to breed with. I don't see anything next level coming from these. Having that wide knowledge base helps me pick what I like. I'm giddy when I find really old seeds.
 
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Mudballs2.0

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thanks for reply,,, my mistake i assumed it was santa maria lol ,,,only heard of wedding cake not smoked it ,,wouldnt an f2 of f5s be and f6 ?
I cant prove what i got from him were in fact f5's, i can only prove i made f2's from plants i grew from what he sent me. And he called them f5's. I popped all the seeds he sent me and the offspring of those has too many phenos to have been taken to f5. So do i just repeat what he said, or call them f2's i made?
 

harvestreaper

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I cant prove what i got from him were in fact f5's, i can only prove i made f2's from plants i grew from what he sent me. And he called them f5's. I popped all the seeds he sent me and the offspring of those has too many phenos to have been taken to f5. So do i just repeat what he said, or call them f2's i made?
its all good either way ,im no authority but i now understand why youd call em f2s ,,
 

goingrey

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Ive been really neurotic about trying to trace pedigree...to a fault now it appears. I've been hoping for the community to come up with a consensus on naming convention.
If he crossed an F1 and and F4 I believe the resulting seeds would be considered an F2. At least dog breeders seem to use this lowest generation + 1 math for these multigeneration crosses.

And your repro would then be an F3.

For clarity probably best to just lay it all out...
 

Mudballs2.0

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If he crossed an F1 and and F4 I believe the resulting seeds would be considered an F2. At least dog breeders seem to use this lowest generation + 1 math for these multigeneration crosses.

And your repro would then be an F3.

For clarity probably best to just lay it all out...
Thank you grey, the pheno variation count im seeing is way more indicative of f3...that makes sooo much more sense now.
 

mexweed

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Santa Marta is a coastal city in northern Colombia, Santa Maria is a landlocked city in southern Brazil

for me the chems/diesels are the best weed, OG is always nice too, they have a more dynamic palate than single origin landraces like yeah there is that meaty greasy hashy earthy flavor but that's not all there is to it, and of course their potency is off the charts

what I'm actually not the biggest fan of is when chems/diesels and OGs get crossed as I feel there are things about the flavor of each that get blurred and in a way makes a bit of a more one dimensional flavor

not a fan of sativa landraces or hazes that much, every now and again something will catch my eye and I may give it a try, but generally speaking I have more or less completely dismissed dutch hazes

as for classic strains it depends, if I see some ak47 I may try it but would more than likely pass on NL

new strains, well cookies definitely sucks, I have tried a few different MACs and liked one of the examples but the rest were lackluster, gelatos are probably what I have enjoyed the most but even they are kind of meh, I tried a strain called fatso which is GMOXlegend OG and...no...just no, it did not have the potency of a proper chem or OG, it had that horrible creamy/doughy edge to it from the cookies, chem D and legend on their own please

I like fruity strains too some of which fall under the classic category like mango and papaya, I've had some lemon tree that I really liked

when I think "terpy" I think BOG and Subcool
 

grayeyes

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Someone I know has a bunch of old genetics/seeds (2006-2010'ish) , which are probably mostly dead now from age. But not totally dead.
Question would be, why bother if they are all outdated and low THC stuff compared to the thousands and thousands of new "strains" that seem to be everywhere? Nobody had THC % reports on any of that old stuff.
TO, I have a friend who probably has over 300 strains dating back to the 70's. I know he can germinate them because I have had the results. The others commenting here are correct. THC, while interesting, is NOT the determinative of which is good and which isn't. Grow and learn.
 

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