Arcata Trainwreck

[Guest]

In that second shot of the top the plant looks a little mutated???

Hi Mountain,

It was slightly mutated, it was a cut being force flowered and the light timings where being played with, as a stress test earlier in the year. Plant is same as the one bellow it, and this one here a pic from above just before she is flowered out for pollination. Pic is of a green pheno used as a P1 mother, she is to be crossed with pure Kush males.

Peace TW lovers,
hhf

 

[Guest]

Nice plant...looks super happy. Good luck on the crosses .

 

[mark6699331]

Yes it is a heavy feeder. Like 900-1200ppm

later

mark

and

GDW- You're better at breeding than you think....don't be bashfull.


and Where the HELL is the capt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Guest]

WOW, all these great pictures. Sure is allot of members rockin the TW. Glad to see the girl making her way around. One thing i need to work on myself. Is a better yielding with my setup. I talked to Dr.Jay about this. God rest his Soul. Told me he had some friends pulling some mad weight with their setup. Guess, I got to look to see how i can better my garden with TW.


Hey Mark,

Breeding, LOLOL. I wouldn't got that far. Maybe a match maker, but not a breeder. I got some years of hard work before i would even be though of being called that. To me, just a normal person like the rest and i'm happy with that title.

Nothing but, a little pollen here and a little pollen there. lolol
Take care,
BG

 

[Duder]

i never got to grow my tw.. had to cull the mom before i had a chance

 

[mark6699331]

When you're ready GDW- let me know and i can give you tips to increase yield. Dr.j got alot of info from my friend. We get 1.5 per 1000 and sometimes 2.

Oh and what a bashfull pollen chucker! Ha We all know you're the thai master.

-M

 

[Herbsman_OS]

One tip for increasing your yield with TW is to let your babies get tall as your environment will allow and to make sure you tie or stake your branches because they will topple over.

--Herbsman_OS

 

[mark6699331]

or veg really tall like 5ft, then bend over at the base hard. all the side branches grow up as colas. use a trellels to weave these new top buds into!!!

 

[Guest]

Thanks mark.

I'll see what happens once i get going. I'll be using all 600HPS, so i'm guessing over a lbs per a light. It will be fun and I'm sure they will all do well. Thanks for the support. Take care and WHERE THE HELL IS CAPT CRIP'S? LOLOL
Later,
BG

 

[ourcee]

Trainwreck

thats an older pic, I've got about 5 weeks left

 

[Herbsman_OS]

or veg really tall like 5ft, then bend over at the base hard. all the side branches grow up as colas. use a trellels to weave these new top buds into!!!

In addition to what you've stated, implement some super cropping as another method of getting the under branches to gain some of that nice light penetration.

--Herbsman_OS

 

[mark6699331]

Yeah i forgot about that supercropping- get the technique down right and it will work wonders and strengthen up that skinny tw cola.

 

[kovenant]

any of you care to check out my tw grow and offer some advice? been having burns that i cant diagnose (thought original was potassium deficiency, but drained and flushed, mixed up a light mix, and still getting burns.) 600s been 12" above canopy. room temp = 83F, RH = 50%ish, water temp= 68-69F, CO2 levels been 1200 (could it be CO2 burn?), last 5 days have been running a mix of 1/2 veg (sensi grow a & b) and 1/2 flower (connoisseur a & b) @ 610-680ppm after i drained and flushed system with pH'ed RO water for a day (6 days ago.) pH in the meantime has been between 5.6 - 6.8 (its been raising on its own, once it gets to mid- or high- 6s i pH it down to 5.6

going to flush with pH'ed RO water again for a day or two, then mix just connoisseur - still at a low strength, maybe 600s again - without any Cal Mg or veg nutes. maybe ill try it at 6.0pH and see if i can keep her steady.





anyway - i could use the advice on my grow thread (in sig) if any have time to help. thanks in advance


--edit--
oh, and dont forget LST. even though i have mediocre growth due to veggin in rockwool prior to my buckets, the LSTrainning gave me alot of main shoots to play with

 

[Guest]

Kovenant - for one I think the pH swing you have going is waaaay too wide. Try and keep it a bit more stable. Next you're overnuting and the wild pH swing is probably contributing to the problem a bit. Where did you get those TW cuts from? A buddy got some from a club early this year and they were super nute sensitive and ended up being hermie garbage. That old burn ain't going away and you should be more interested in what the new growth looks like but also the old problem should not be advancing in severity. You don't need to flush for a day or two. I would think a flush of the system with something like Clearex, properly used, then going to a mild nute program would be good.

I keep my pH in flower between 5.6 and 5.8 and usually on the high side. Is your EC also rising?

Are you in flower or veg? Why you mixing AN veg and flower formulas? It's just not necessary or recommended IMO.

PPM's are pretty useless to me as there are different conversion factors. Can you convert that to EC for me?

 

[Guest]

yeah i agree, that plant has been fed to much.

 

[mark6699331]

try recalibrating your ppm meter. It might be off. Tw usually feeds very high 1200-1800 so 600 should be fine. Maybe the lights are too close unless their aircooled. Or you might be right about the co2. Moniter new growth, check the roots, are they white or where they burned. My guess is that your meter might have been off. Good luck. Oh BTW -that does look like genuine arcata trainwreck!

mark

 

[Guest]

a very good way to guage your TW cut is watchin the stems, they will purple long before the fans start to yellow. (low N) how i know shes hungry.

the way your fans are lookin, it appears that it is nute burn, and a pretty good shot as well, due to the edges of the fans brownin out. to much feed, is easy to detect when ya see the tips of the fans yellowin and turnin brown.

doesnt appear you hurt the plant,
CBF

 

[kovenant]

i didnt end up draining and flushing last night. i pH'ed to 5.9 - its stablized at 6.1 all day yesterday... so i pH'ed back down. i added nematodes last night - had detected an early infestation of root aphids or fungus gnats in one plants root system last week.

just seems strange i would be overfeeding with such a low ppm. had these girls at 600ppm in veg, in eb & flow tray with no problems. i'll recalibrate the meter tonight for both pH and ppm. the meter reads EC as well - i just havent used it. ill check it this evening once the lights are on - im at work for the day right now.

under the infirmary my pics and description of whats going on seem to match with both phosphorus and magnesium deficeincy. am i overfeeding, or is there a nute deficeincy. i was sure of the later, yesterday, but who knows. i dont want to play the waiting game and have shit get worse - but i'll have to give it a day or two and see if the burning continues.

dont hesitate to offer any advice or opinions as the bigger pool i have to draw from the better. thnx guys - feel free to post on my grow thread as well - as i dont want to hijack this awesome thread. ill get some answers to those questions and keep you updated.


Mountain -> the cuts are local. im in flower - day 12 today. i switched them to DWC buckets, 12/12 cycle, and flower nutes all 12 days ago. thats the first of any burn or problems. they recommended on my grow thread that i mix 1/2 and 1/2 of veg and flower nutes - so thats why i did it. my EC did raise a bit... but it happened after i had done some top feeding - and i believe it pulled some ppm's from the old nute solution still absorbed in the rockwool. its back where it started now... so really hasnt lowered much.

so - if its feed thats to high... i should flush with some flushing agent? could i use AN final phase as opposed to Clearex? reason i ask is because i have final phase and not the other. then mix a mild solution (like half of what the AN nute table gives from where i am in flower?) all the local growers i know that use AN love them and havent had any problems by sticking straight to the chart. i just want to know whats wrong so i can fix it! lol

 

[Guest]

dont know about a flushin agent, straight water for a day or two, then ya know theres nothin in there. then go ahead and make your mix, startin out low and increasin to what ya normally run in flower.

gotta be more experienced hydro guys around here. if the plant wasnt gettin enough food the fans wouldnt burn like that, you would see the lower fans yellowin and dyin off. (with TW the stems will purple first) startin from the bottom. nute burn appears in the newest leaf, the ones that are still growin. any micro deficiency would be all over the plant, not just a certain part. they dont appear locked out to me.

CBF

 

[Guest]

You can use any clearing product. OK...in DWC so prolly no real need to use as you have no solid medium. I'm not experienced with DWC though. You have been feeding them very minimally so the burn is surprising and agree to recheck your meter. If you're using a Truncheon they MUST be cleaned regularly. I was running an EC of 4400 once and thought it was only 2200 due to the meter being gunked up.

I use GH products and the first phase of flowering I use a 'transitional' formula which would probably be similar to what you're doing with the combo of Grow and Bloom. I'm just finishing up a grow in coco with AN stuff and only used the Grow or Bloom formulas separately with outstanding results.

It kind of looks like P toxicity which makes some sense as it appeared after you started some Bloom.

I don't think the top feeding will cause a problem as that's what I do the first few days after putting cubes onto the slabs to feed until the roots develop a bit.