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Arcata Trainwreck

G

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I'll try to get pics of my current wreck grow just to show y'all what the arcata cut should look like. There are a couple other versions of wreck out there- one that herms, and one that grows a straight up cola.
The one I grew outside 2 years ago was the Arcata IMO. As for the the one that herms...the last cuts of TW my buddy got at Harborside, just like 6 months ago, grew a straight up cola AND hermied...best of both worlds I guess.
 

B.C.

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I'll stay on topic this time...hehe (sorry yall)

I'll stay on topic this time...hehe (sorry yall)

I'm glad I came across this thread cuz I've learned alot about this strain,and it jus so happens I was gifted some TW.It's still in veg now though.But I know jus by the integrity of the person that gifted it ta me,it's gonna be killer! lol I can't wait! OH! and you can bet it will be spread far and wide across this big cornfield I live in.EVERYONE I know will have it! Take care...BC ps Big thank you ta that special person who was so generous!
 

Core

Quality Control Controller
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i will keep me busy with my TW x strawD hybrid....closer as that i wont get imo.....got a pic of her....





any resemblance of the TW...or is it more StrawD ??....i never grew any of them before ...?
 

S.O.T.G.

Member
The truth will set u free!!!

The truth will set u free!!!

:jump:
B.C. said:
What good does it do ta hoard any strain? Jus think if everybody did that,we prolly wouldn't even be havin this conversation.I mean really,what good does it do? Why even mention it if yer not going ta share.Outside of bein able ta say,look what I have and you don't (self importance?).I'm sure glad -my- friends don't feel that way! I reckon I'm jus stuck in my old school hippy ways that I was brought up with.....I mean no disrespect.ONE LOVE YALL!!!! Take care...BC


:headbange Gotta support u on that one BC. The plant is supposed to bring us closer together as one! And something so beautiful should be shared with the rest of the world. A true breeder will see his work as art, art that the world should be exposed to! Everyone there after is entitled to his or her own interpretation, yet the love of his own creation can not be matched!

I've even been hearing rumors of seed companies that will start to only sell fem. beans so that other will not use there genetics for there own crossing purposes...ridiculous what capitolism can do to the fragile minds of some smokers! People seem to be forgetting why we are all here, but anyways, don't wanna carry on for to long.

Last I wanted to say...those Wreck seeds(Original Arcata) will soon be out in feminized beans. So keep your heads up and your eyes open, and don't believe the hype...the original Wreck already exists a long long time so that one person can say he is 'the only one who has it'...BS...that shit was passed on to a number of people to spread the love back in the day all up and down the west coast and further.

Keep it green people and keep it real!!!

S.O.T.G.



(Original TrainWreck)


http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=62788
 
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sugabear_II

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mark6699331 said:
. There are a couple other versions of wreck out there- one that herms, and one that grows a straight up cola. The arcata one creeps, finishes fast, is super-potent, will stink up the house and is almost too stoney. The cancer and aids and catastropic pain people love it out here cause it really is medicine.

-M

hmm.. gotta say that the woodhorse one does not follow a straight cola pattern and it never hermed even when abused. :chin:
 

kovenant

Member
so, experienced growers of TW care to pass down some knowledge for optimizing my grow?

i am using mostly AN nutes with a few others. just switched to flower on 12/12. my room temp is around 80F and current humidity is 50% (just went through a hot phase before i got my AC installed where daily temps were 84-91F @ 35% humidity.) the girls got burned from what i believe was potasium deficiency. im using recirculating DWC bucket system and my water is @ 70F and i try to keep my solution around 5.6pH (5.5-5.8pH usually.)

current batch of nutes is:

Connoiseur A & B, Barricade, Fulvic Acid, Pirahna, Multi-zyme, and root excellerator - its week 1 of flower and im at 720 ppm

thnx guys!
 
G

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The problem is that the guy who gave them to me did it on a this is just for you basis and not to be shared with the "adam seed whores" as he put it. he's turned down the cover of high times etc. etc. If anything he'd give them away for free to med. users. At least that's what he told me. He's very compassionate.
I can kind of understand where he is coming from. As for the seed whores that's part of what keeps things going. People passing things around, playing with new stuff, etc. You gotta honor your agreements with people. It's all cool. Really just saying it's a shame the growing community can't have easier access. I'm not getting on his ass...whatever he wants to do.
 

mark6699331

Active member
My friend did tell me that the wreck phenos were created in the early eighties in so-hum. He said that a lot of growers were all buddies and they would share pollen and cuts etc. This trainwreck strain develloped out of that. He does not claim to be the creater of the trainwreck. He claims to be the creater of the arcata cut (the e-32). I think it is a far superior cut than the other wreck cuts. Hope that clears up the story. I'm just trying to get the real story out there. Ask any questions please. I'll talk to the e-32 guy and see what he says about letting out medical seeds.

Long live the wreck,

mark
 
kovenant said:
so, experienced growers of TW care to pass down some knowledge for optimizing my grow?

i am using mostly AN nutes with a few others. just switched to flower on 12/12. my room temp is around 80F and current humidity is 50% (just went through a hot phase before i got my AC installed where daily temps were 84-91F @ 35% humidity.) the girls got burned from what i believe was potasium deficiency. im using recirculating DWC bucket system and my water is @ 70F and i try to keep my solution around 5.6pH (5.5-5.8pH usually.)

current batch of nutes is:

Connoiseur A & B, Barricade, Fulvic Acid, Pirahna, Multi-zyme, and root excellerator - its week 1 of flower and im at 720 ppm

thnx guys!

Ph should be at 6.3-6.5.

--Herbsman_OS
 

mark6699331

Active member
Now isn't ph 6.3 to 6.5 in a soil based medium. If you look at the ph charts of nutrient availability you'll find in a hydro based medium 5.5.-5.8 is good. I sometimes even go 5.4. Bad bugs and bacterias etc. have a hard time living at 5.5.

my 2 cents

mark
 
mark6699331 said:
Now isn't ph 6.3 to 6.5 in a soil based medium. If you look at the ph charts of nutrient availability you'll find in a hydro based medium 5.5.-5.8 is good. I sometimes even go 5.4. Bad bugs and bacterias etc. have a hard time living at 5.5.

my 2 cents

mark

Many of the cannabis grow books that I've read mention 6.3 to be the ideal Ph. range. In addition, I've had ample success at the 6.3 range, especially with TW. I should also mention that I use Hydro as well.

I've personally noticed a difference in my garden when the Ph is below 6.0. and above 7.0. My babies thrive at the 6.3 Ph level.

I also realize everyone's grow environment is different based on the medium, nutrients used, temperature/humidity, etc. and it is possible that one's garden prefers the lower Ph range. The Ph at the 6.3 range works sufficiently well in my environment and I've been maintaining that range since I started producing my own medicine back in 2000.

--Herbsman_OS
 

Dj Zion-i

Member
im working on it

im working on it

gmanwho said:
I've always heard alot about the trainwreck, at one point i read it was only available in clone. Back in the OG days. Could someone PM if they know if a place the average joe could find seeds. been checking seedbay, there are a few of the casey jones. But not sure about that strain yet, gotta read abit more on it.


Till then.... B safe
Im working on coming up with a new trainwreck hybrid,and a stabalised version of TW.Im going to outbreed it ,be patient.
 

gmanwho

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Dj Zion-i said:
Im working on coming up with a new trainwreck hybrid,and a stabalised version of TW.Im going to outbreed it ,be patient.

Sounds like good news to me. Over on the east coast here, so some beans would be fantastic. Would like to introduce something new around here.

Patient i am.

B-safe
 
G

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He claims to be the creater of the arcata cut (the e-32). I think it is a far superior cut than the other wreck cuts. Hope that clears up the story. I'm just trying to get the real story out there. Ask any questions please. I'll talk to the e-32 guy and see what he says about letting out medical seeds.
The Arcata cut is THE best TW IMO...just frikkin awesome. I'd love to run it again outdoors someday...that's where it really shines IME. A pound a plant easy, very vigorous and forgiving, you can cut it around Oct 1st if need be but wait 2 weeks and you'll be rewarded and potent :headbange. It's great meds.
 

mark6699331

Active member
I used 6.3 for ages and then upon studying the ph availability chart and some experiements found 5.8 to be optimial. I only use 5.8 in rockwool or coco. any other medium i use 6.3.

I should talk to mr. e-32 soon and see if he'll let some medical seeds out for free. It would probably only be in cali- maybe in the clubs under my seedbank name. But they would be free or minimial cost- like 10$ for packaging/gas cost etc. Mr. e-32 believes in giving free meds to catastrophicilly ill patients and not profitering from them.

But.... if they get let out maybe one of you folks could do whatever you like with it!!!! and spread it far and wide. I'll try to visit his house this weekend. Nothing like seeing fields of indoor wreck and i mean fields.... and legally approved by the D..E..A.. as well, i saw the letter. They like it that he keeps all records and that he gives free meds to the poor patients.

later,

m
 

kovenant

Member
Herbsman_OS & mark6699331 -->

i keep getting conflicting advice/information. maybe ill try 6.3 pH. i have a local friend who has been growing a long time stopping by my place tonight to help me look at the girls, diagnose the problem, and get to work on making things right (ive been experiencing some burns... probably potassium def and maybe a lock-out) so got to get on it.

going to ask his opinion on pH level as well - and consider it with the rest of your advices. he grows both hydro and soil. ill post what i do and which seems better for them. in veg i was in the 6s and definately didnt have the problems... but it was ebb & flow vs. recirculating DWC buckets too (so that alone is a big difference besides pH.)

cheers
 
G

Guest

When i ran my girls "TW" I would keep my ebb&flo setup around 5.8-6.0, sometimes 6.2, but then adding alittle ph down. Had great results at 6.0 myself.
Take care,
BG
 

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