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any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

Rondon

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Personally I think HDI/ SGS did Mr. Smith wrong for what hes done for that outfit. If they would of listened to him...he has some great ideas.
 

dansbuds

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i don't even use the shine or any PK boosters with the V&B ...... doesn't need it IMHO !

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davidyhan

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I only ask because in the past I’ve seen at a lot of diff between using bloom enhancers / hardeners vs just using base nutes. Like 25 vs 18 in same strains same base in exact same environment. One time I didn’t use it. I’ve always use big bud and overdrive or koolbloom combo. W/ an Sensi bloom. Flower quality for both was same but I def saw a lot of diff in the final weight.
 

dansbuds

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nope ..... i prefer to let the plant express what it will on its own instead of chemically enhancing it .
 

DONAJTHEIII

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Damn can't get the microbe life or the extreme blend off of kelp4less here in California. Has anyone found an alternative that can be obtained here in California or a site that will ship to CA.

Smh :moon: can't even own a damn ferret in CA
 

dansbuds

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yes thats the vitamin brand i'm using . dunno on the kelp , but from what i was reading it sounds good .
 

dansbuds

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lighter green , defs that looked the ph was outa range but wasn't . red stems , curled leaves on occasion , just looked unhealthy .....
 

davidyhan

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Hi guys my run off ph keeps on rising. I thought it fixed the problem before but it’s happeneing again.. any tips on stabilizing the ph? I feed at 5.5 and i checked today the run off is 6.9. :(
 

dansbuds

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how big is the rez ? the more volume of water the slower the PH will fluctuate . a 5 gallon will need adjusting everyday ... a 55 gallon might need adjusting once a week .

your PH raises ??? mine has always lowered . i need PH up to bring it into spec .
if your using GH PH adjusters that might be your problem too , that stuff SUX !!! go with advanced nutes PH adjusters ..... its so concentrated that you use drops instead of ml or tsp's


Edit ; My bad , i should have read better ..... runoff levels will never be completely accurate ! only a slurry test will tell you what the real levels are & even that is not written in stone , unless the plants look like the PH is outa range , just feed light & leave them be . but make sure they never sit in the runoff if using coco coir . soils it doesn't matter as much . i;m not a soil guy , but there are amendments that will help buffer the PH in the soil .
 

saitama

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Hi Dan. Thanks for all this info. I just ordered this product for myself as I, too, have been seeing the yellowing and red stems in veg at 1.0EC. I tried looking back through the thread and couldn't find my answer to your question.

Do you add this into your res and at what rate during veg? The directions say to use it once or twice a week so I am not sure if you are using it as a top dress or in your res at a lighter rate.

Thanks in advance! You always have the best guidance.
 

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