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any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom
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Benvanboro
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I believe you're talking about Shine, their bloom booster?
What if anything replaced their +Size? Don't see it listed on their site anymore...anyone know? Will shoot them an email as well. Thanks in advance
Benvanboro
Member
Yea same. I also like that it's just the phosphoric acid and nothing else, it seems to keep the pH at whatever I set it to for a lot longer then anything else I've used.. Really don't like Advanced, but their Bud Candy and pH down are good products. They just need to put what's actually in the bottle on the damn label! Lol
Going to see if The V+B will do it again for me....
Drumskinz
Well-known member
Dan’s if I remember correctly you said your son used the v&b hard. Was that indoor or outdoor? I tried it od and the jury is still out on results cause of all the rain we had here in the finger lakes of ny and stuff I had to do to compensate for it. So did he like it for I’d?
Coco coir in 3 gallon cloth pots. Drip to waste (15 %). 0.2 EC tap water. Add calmag plus to bump up to 0.3 EC (50 ppm bump of calmag). Add veg + bloom soft to 1.3 - 1.4 EC. Total at peak bloom = 1.6 - 1.7 EC. Thats total tap + calmag + the nutes. PH rock solid at 6.0 all times using a quality calibrated meter. Gets it done EVERY TIME. All strains Ive grown for awhile now. Nothing else. Doesnt need it. Minor differences if that buying bullshit in a bottle. Chasing my tail. Been there done that. I do use a kelp/fulvic/amino/yucca weekly foliar spray in veg. The only "additive" that really works. But in flower...just Veg+Bloom..calmag..and tap water. Oh...and a smidge of pH down. Just a little.
nice !!!
the only thing i would argue with is 1.6 or 1.7 is kinda high with this stuff , had it lock up budset on a few strains running it that high . i go no higher than 1.4 on anything any more ...... & very few ask for more than that .
I think that the strain and the type of lighting make a big difference. I've been running Purple Crack almost exclusively for several years now. I veg between 1.5 and 1.6, and flower at 1.8-1.9. That is the total mixed EC. My tap water is damn close to RO, so I supplement about 2 grams/gallon of epsom, use 1ml/gln of Drip Clean, and that's it. I veg under LEDs and flower under CMH. I know that this sounds higher than hell, but if I back off from those levels, I start getting all manner of weird deficiencies.
Just shot this, but the white balance may be off a bit. I'd have to pack them into natural light to see how accurate it is. No tip burn that I can find, getting ready to flip them.
Just shot this, but the white balance may be off a bit. I'd have to pack them into natural light to see how accurate it is. No tip burn that I can find, getting ready to flip them.
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It actually is about 1.4 EC of straight veg + bloom nutrient. But 0.2 is tap (calcium and magnesium carbonates) and 0.1 (just 50 ppm) is calmag. A calcium magnesium supplement they can use as opposed to the carbonates in the tap. Honestly I could prolly omit the 0.1 EC of calmag and just use the 0.2 tap plus tje 1.4 of nutes. Bringing more closer to your numbers of 1.6 EC (about 800 ppm of nutes and tap). 7 to 800 ppm at peak bloom seems to be the sweet spot for drip to waste plants in coco coir. As long as I get a good 15% waste water out every feednice !!!
yep , your all right ! there are a ton of variables involved in how much they like to feed on . but i'm of the mind set to feed low & go up if they need more than to overfeed & have to try & flush the shit out ! which is what i see alot of people do !
less is more !!! & its alot less stress on the plants if they're slightly under fed at first than if their overfed !
less is more !!! & its alot less stress on the plants if they're slightly under fed at first than if their overfed !
Just like seasoning food while cooking. Easier to add than to take back
plumbum
Member
hi dansbuds, thank you for the huge amount of information you have contributed here. i have a question about DOS formula. seems like not many people have tried it. and i am trying to get some feedback. i am starting a run right now in coco with RO water blended with TAP to EC 0.2 with DOS formula.
you have mentioned that you have tried it. what ratios have you used it? 60% A/ 40 % B? did you use it in veg or also in flower? obviously a month is not enough time to really get a feel for it. i am hoping your advice will help me to get a head start.
thank you
Chris mixed it up at a 50/50 mix for me & sent it like that as 1 pkg . so i have no experiance in trying it at different mixtures ....... I hope it works out for you ! he did this to try & make it better for veg stages where the original formula seemed to be lacking a little .
the only thing i didn't like about it was the PH dropped daily in a 55 gallon rez , where the original formula dropped much slower to get the plants what they need at different PH levels . by having to adjust daily kinda sucked for me because there are times when i'm gone for 4 or 5 days at a clip .
yeah i would think so ! the red stems is a sign of phosphorous defs .
i cured that problem in veg with the RO formula by adding amino acids & vitamins . https://heavygardens.com/microbe-life-hydroponics-vitamin-amino-acids-2-5-gal.html?fee=5&fep=1838&utm_source=google-feed&utm_medium=shopping%20feed&utm_campaign=HG_googleshop_0831&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvabPBRD5ARIsAIwFXBnXl9zbNMxaFsOXA1Wxk9nhgf21U0lqz08TzNheOJ_jSnEeH4MEsjkaAt6OEALw_wcB
Hey Dan's, I was messaging you a couple weeks ago about the yellowing. Just an update they are nice and green and starting to show flowers. Thanks for your help
