any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

[LostTribe]

if its only the ones below the canopy , without more info , i'd be inclined to think light intensity is the problem . not enough or strong enough light getting to the lower half of the plant .
thin out some fan leaves blocking light or spread them out a bit more so more light can get through .

I was also at Claypool's Bucket of Brains @ Bonnaroo! First thing when we arrived! What a bitch getting into the lot! 12 Hours sitting in the ride!

Anyway so you guys still do maxi bloom in veg right? I am seeing 3/4 tsp/gallon for veg..?

Got some thanks!

 

[LostInEthereal]

well theres your problem right there . you were letting the pots dry out with only 1 feeding in a 1 gallon pot & the PH is so far outa wack in the pots that your getting a PH lock out .
by adding more feeds now your on the way to fixing it , but its probably still slightly high .

first thing , ditch everything except the V&B , the other shit is not need & will only complicate the situation .
second , your feeding to high of an EC to try & compensate for the problem . you only need to be at 1.4 EC at the highest point in the feeds .

to fix the PH in the coco & get the girls back on track , mix up a batch of just V&B at 1.2 EC & a PH of 5.8 , feed that till you have about half of what you fed come through the pots as runoff . then suck out the runoff right away & get rid of it . do this for the next couple days every time you feed & the pots of coco should be pretty much reset . & you can resume your normal feeds at about 10% runoff .

one gallon pots should be fed multiple times a day in flower , especially as they go further into the cycle , they'll be eating more & the pots will dry out faster . NEVER let the pots get dry !!!! feed at lights on , half way through & right before lights off to hold them over untill the next feed at lights on .

Thanks for the response bud. I was afraid I pushed it with the exceedingly high strength feed (especially minus the other crap!). I plan to give them all a solid heavy feeding (meaning run-off) with a lower strength as you suggested. The pots are so small because I intended to use blumats and I figured they would keep up at a near-constant drip (using 2x emitters for 1gal, 3x for 2, etc). On that note, off to hand-water again before attempting sleep.

 

[dansbuds]

get them blumats set up or a drip system & you won't have to worry about being in there to feed so often !!! i have a brand new patio set of 12 here that i bought & was going to use on veg , but i went with a drip system instead . i'll send them to ya if you can use them . i'd rather see someone use them than sit here collecting dust !

 

[LostInEthereal]

get them blumats set up or a drip system & you won't have to worry about being in there to feed so often !!! i have a brand new patio set of 12 here that i bought & was going to use on veg , but i went with a drip system instead . i'll send them to ya if you can use them . i'd rather see someone use them than sit here collecting dust !

That's massively generous of you bro, thanks a lot. I do however already have the Blumats and even the 500 dollar pump from SustainableVillage. It just had leaks out of the box, I then cracked a nipple tightening down because I clearly don't know much about plumbing. I need to order some replacement pieces just unsure of the dimensions. I'll have to get in touch with Steve and have him send me triplicate of each piece.

 

[brainzfuxed]

get them blumats set up or a drip system & you won't have to worry about being in there to feed so often !!! i have a brand new patio set of 12 here that i bought & was going to use on veg , but i went with a drip system instead . i'll send them to ya if you can use them . i'd rather see someone use them than sit here collecting dust !

Dans any way I can implement blumats into my small tent grow? I have a tent that's 3x2x5 in a closet with room to spare.

 

[LostInEthereal]

Dans any way I can implement blumats into my small tent grow? I have a tent that's 3x2x5 in a closet with room to spare.

Absolutely, sir. Just take necessary precautions for run-away situations like a large catchment tray or a pressurized system to reduce the risk, and you should be good bud. I really don't understand how I can sell the idea of Blumats every chance I get while procrastinating on using my very pricey complete system (pre-assembled pump system) with beyond-redundant extras. Just do it man, you'll never look back. Yo Dan, hook this guy up with those Blumats instead!

 

[dansbuds]

Dans any way I can implement blumats into my small tent grow? I have a tent that's 3x2x5 in a closet with room to spare.

read over the blumat thread first & see if its something your really interested in getting into . the head pressure from the elevated rez is the biggest problem with blumats . if you can do whats needed to get around that , i'd be more than happy to send you the patio kit i have here to use . its got 12 carrots , all the lines & extra bulk head fittings that i ordered .

 

[LostInEthereal]

I've read this thread and figured, don't worry, no need for notes, you'll remember or can always search. Yeah that doesn't work out so well, haha.

I'm wondering what people are feeding their seedlings with this stuff (2nd set of true leaves)? I tried 0.4 EC and have completely stalled out with purpling on my barely 2 week old seedlings in coco. I've read that people use 1.0 in veg from cloning, does this apply to seedlings or what do you guys suggest? I think last time I was higher at 0.6 to 0.8 and they were fine but the notes I did take were thrown away in haste.

I started them in 1oz shot glass cups and transplanted to 16oz party cups when roots poking out the bottom and they haven't done anything but turn a little purple since. I soaked the coco in a 0.4 EC feed for an hour and squeezed out all the extra moisture and fluffed by hand, then gently moistened again with the same strength feed as the soak during the transplant.

 

[dansbuds]

i use .6 or .7ec on fresh rooted clones & seedlings . & then jump to 1.0 when the roots are plenty established & the plant has visably grown more .

what was the PH of your feeds ? & whats the PH coming out of the cups ? test the runoff to see what the PH is next time you feed , i'm willing to bet its off slightly .
this happened to me with a bad batch of canna coco a little while back . had to flush it & recharge it before i could use it again .

 

[LostInEthereal]

I always pH around 5.7 or 5.8. I went ahead and watered with a little left over 0.8 EC 5.8 pH flush from the main gals last night earlier this afternoon. I appreciate your responses though man, I learn so much better from hand-on experience than what I've read. At some point it'll become intuitive.

 

[spaceboy]

Just started running the ro/soft formula. The 4 grams dosage takes my ppm quite a bit higher than i normally go. What ec do u guys use in veg with this stuff? Anyone using only 4 grams per gal in flower?

 

[dansbuds]

Just started running the ro/soft formula. The 4 grams dosage takes my ppm quite a bit higher than i normally go. What ec do u guys use in veg with this stuff? Anyone using only 4 grams per gal in flower?

.6 to 1.0 EC in veg & 1.0 to 1.4EC in flower .

 

[brainzfuxed]

Anyone using veg+bloom in promix? I have plants in flower right now loving the veg+bloom! Big shout out to stoned40yrs -my dude!! And big shout out to Dansbuds. I don't think veg+bloom shines in veg, better off doing maxigrow or 6/9 in veg, but I'm fully converted now going forward in the future veg+bloomed is only thing I need. I run anywhere from 3/4 tsp to 1tsp in flower under t5 lights

 

[dansbuds]

looking good Brain !!!

 

[brainzfuxed]

This veg+bloom shit is too easy. I'm dropping strength to 3/4 tsp a gallon cuz I was getting small burnt tips with 1tsp a gallon. 3/4 tsp puts me at 1.0ec. Here's some bud love for my homies stoned40 and dans I took last night:

 

[Kushman201]

Lookin good

 

[DankemsHunter]

Just wanted to post my results from my last run with VegBloom RO/Soft in Tupur (coco w/ perlite). Did not run VB in veg, but switched to it for flower. Maxed out at 1.3 EC. 3 gal Dirt Pots 8 pots per 4x8 table. Watered 3 times a day mid flower. Flushed for 19 days. Temps dropped to 65 by last 6 days. Strain is Extreme Cream by Exotic Genetix. Tested at PSI Labs at 33% Cannabanoides, 31.8% THC. Enjoy!



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[Catatafish]

DH, what size light you runnin?

 

[DankemsHunter]

Cata - I am currently Running 6 600x2 Nanolux fixtures. I split one of the hoods off each fixture giving me a total of 12 600's. I have 3 hoods over a 5.25x9.5 area. Working with 7 foot ceilings so I couldn't run 1000w and wanted to use Double Ended lights.

 

[brainzfuxed]

Can a nitrogen toxicity lockout calcium? I think veg+bloom at 1tsp a gallon was causing a massive nitrogen toxicity for some of my plants as now I'm in the last week of flower and showing signs of a calcium deficiency with signs of a strong nitrogen toxicity