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DoomsDay

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Best way to break down maxi is a 5 gal sparkles jug and a the hose attachment that let's you get a super high powered jet. Just pour powder into container, and jet blast the shit. Will be perfectly mixed by the time the jug is full and not a single shake was necessary.
 

James Tailor

New member
I tried contacting Chris

I tried contacting Chris

In my humble opinion Hydroponic-Research and their customer service suck. They ripped me off and 7 attempts to contact Chris have been rebuffed. 7 times I've asked to speak to Chris about them ripping me off (charged me $14.00 to ship 1 lb and it took 12 days to get to me cuz they shipped it the sloooowest possible way). I've tried e-mailing [email protected] with no response from him whatsoever.

I've heard a lot of complaints in this forum about how many people are having problems with the product, but now let it be known that they have flat out ripped me off and Chris doesn't seem to care.

My advice would be to avoid these people totally.
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
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Let it be known that I like V+B. Let it be known that V+B doesn't even package and ship their product, another company does that. Whining over a couple bucks every time ya get poked by a company means a lifetime of whining. You got your package. Feed your plants, smoke a joint, move on.:tiphat:
If ya gotta complain some more why don't ya try the right place as these people package and ship V+B:
fulfillmentcorp.com
 

James Tailor

New member
Well, that was a constructive piece you contributed. You don't think Chris should know about a third party company ripping his customers off? I think he should know and that"s what I'm trying to do, let him know.

You do plenty of pissing and moaning and bitching and bellyaching on here you hypocrite. Now climb back under your rock.



Let it be known that I like V+B. Let it be known that V+B doesn't even package and ship their product, another company does that. Whining over a couple bucks every time ya get poked by a company means a lifetime of whining. You got your package. Feed your plants, smoke a joint, move on.:tiphat:
If ya gotta complain some more why don't ya try the right place as these people package and ship V+B:
fulfillmentcorp.com
 

DoomsDay

Member
Belly aching over a couple bucks?.... that mentality right there is why consumers feel so fucking powerless. If you have an issue with a company due to being screwed over, you better stand up and let it be known that the company is practicing poor business ethics.

Now it's nice to kindly inform that vb doesn't get shipped by the same.people that make the product, however there were much classier ways of delivering that information...

Stoned40yrs, sry to say dude, but you're more the problem than the solution.
 
Well, that was a constructive piece you contributed. You don't think Chris should know about a third party company ripping his customers off? I think he should know and that"s what I'm trying to do, let him know.

You do plenty of pissing and moaning and bitching and bellyaching on here you hypocrite. Now climb back under your rock.

Lol it's actually quite the opposite. He is actually probably one of be most knowledgeable and respected members on here. You however, just joined and have contributed little to nothing as far I can see. Why don't you show some respect to some of the tenured members here before you come here and start bashing away :thank you:
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
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Belly aching over a couple bucks?.... that mentality right there is why consumers feel so fucking powerless. If you have an issue with a company due to being screwed over, you better stand up and let it be known that the company is practicing poor business ethics.

Now it's nice to kindly inform that vb doesn't get shipped by the same.people that make the product, however there were much classier ways of delivering that information...

Stoned40yrs, sry to say dude, but you're more the problem than the solution.

What problem? Buy 1 lb or 5 lbs and it costs $14 to ship V+B. Takes about 10 days for me to get my order from them after I place my order. He's whining about it taking a few days longer. I wouldn't have said anything but the only reason he joined this forum was to bitch about slow shipping AND tell everyone NOT to buy from Hydroponic Research anymore. Sounds more like a guy with an agenda against the company for different reasons. How many other forums is he on telling people not to buy V+B? He has no history on here for me to think otherwise. Here's a solution, why don't you hold his hand in his time of need instead of thinking I'm going to do it.:biggrin:
 

dansbuds

Retired from the workforce Bullshit
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Play nice boys ! :biggrin:

40years is right ! 14$ to ship it & it takes 10 days or so depending on where its gotta go .
bitching about it ain't gonna change things so ..... Deal with it !!!

if its not fast or cheap enough for you then move on ...., no need to come in here & complain :tiphat:
 

James Tailor

New member
You advised me to contact Chris, and since I know that at one time you were a shill for him I figured maybe I would heed your advice, so I e-mailed him 4 days ago. He has yet to respond.

I simply wanted Chris to know how his customers are being treated, now I see that he has no interest in how we are treated. By the way, I was told by a young lady at H-R that my shipping should have been $6.80 and taken 3 - 5 days for shipping.

Play nice boys ! :biggrin:

40years is right ! 14$ to ship it & it takes 10 days or so depending on where its gotta go .
bitching about it ain't gonna change things so ..... Deal with it !!!

if its not fast or cheap enough for you then move on ...., no need to come in here & complain :tiphat:
 
I will say this has been the only consistently negative thing I have been hearing for over a year now regarding veg+bloom and that is that they have poor communication. I too encountered this with my brief interaction with them. Nothing wrong in voicing your opinion bro about communication as a companies primary job is to serve its customer. You would assume that they would understand this is a primary characterstic or driver of good customer service. Regardless stoned is a really good guy Who brings a lot to this board and the many many members here.
 
By the way As far as I know stoned is a shill for no one. That dude has no loyalty to any product as his primary interest is in the health of his plants. He tells it how it is, and have yet to see a single thing that has ever made me question that for a split second. I won't speak for him though so /end rant
 

stoned40yrs

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By the way As far as I know stoned is a shill for no one. That dude has no loyalty to any product as his primary interest is in the health of his plants. He tells it how it is, and have yet to see a single thing that has ever made me question that for a split second. I won't speak for him though so /end rant

Hey get it right- dansbuds is the shill, I'm the hypocrite who lives under a rock:biggrin:
 

dansbuds

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You advised me to contact Chris, and since I know that at one time you were a shill for him I figured maybe I would heed your advice, so I e-mailed him 4 days ago. He has yet to respond.

I simply wanted Chris to know how his customers are being treated, now I see that he has no interest in how we are treated. By the way, I was told by a young lady at H-R that my shipping should have been $6.80 and taken 3 - 5 days for shipping.

i'm a shill for Chris ...... now thats funny !!! :laughing:

the only thing i have going for HR is that i've been buying from them sense the begining & for that Chris has me get my tubs direct from him or his wife Kate instead of dealing with the shipping company , because they are new at this & have some bugs to work out ..... like your mistake .

but as far as no contact from Chris ..... couldn't possibly be that they're busy & can't get to Emails right away could it ? ..... I also had to use the shipping company on my last order cuz he didn't get back to me right away ..... no biggie .

like i said dude , if all you come in here to do is bitch ..... then don't bother . buy some other nutes & have a nice day ........
 

Ez Rider

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Veteran
Play nice boys ! :biggrin:

40years is right ! 14$ to ship it & it takes 10 days or so depending on where its gotta go .
bitching about it ain't gonna change things so ..... Deal with it !!!

if its not fast or cheap enough for you then move on ...., no need to come in here & complain :tiphat:

$14 to ship..what a RIP OFF. Didn't realize how lucky I was to walk in and buy it for $85/5lb OTD at the local spot.

You advised me to contact Chris, and since I know that at one time you were a shill for him I figured maybe I would heed your advice, so I e-mailed him 4 days ago. He has yet to respond.

I simply wanted Chris to know how his customers are being treated, now I see that he has no interest in how we are treated. By the way, I was told by a young lady at H-R that my shipping should have been $6.80 and taken 3 - 5 days for shipping.
IC is the shill, not dan:biggrin:
I will say this has been the only consistently negative thing I have been hearing for over a year now regarding veg+bloom and that is that they have poor communication. I too encountered this with my brief interaction with them. Nothing wrong in voicing your opinion bro about communication as a companies primary job is to serve its customer. You would assume that they would understand this is a primary characterstic or driver of good customer service. Regardless stoned is a really good guy Who brings a lot to this board and the many many members here.

I've found them to be mostly full of shit, and basically useless. They are in the SALES business after all. That being said, I really like the RO formula in coco with some added epsoms, and my plants do too.


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dansbuds

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Damn EZ , you get it cheaper than I do !!! lol i pay 100$ & had to use the shipping co . last time for an extra 12$
 

Ez Rider

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Damn EZ , you get it cheaper than I do !!! lol i pay 100$ & had to use the shipping co . last time for an extra 12$

My spot buys from HR in bulk. I get a good discount too. I'd do even better on the 25#, but that's over a years worth for me.

I'm going to hit them with canna 13/14 for week 6 in an attempt to offset the N while maintaining P-K. I was never really happy wi the +size/shine, but I've heard good things about the 13/14. I should have pics in 3 weeks.
 

dansbuds

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13/14 is good , but strong !!! so start off at half strength .

none of HR's additives have made any sugnificant difference when i used them & have tried them all .
 

Ez Rider

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13/14 is good , but strong !!! so start off at half strength .

none of HR's additives have made any sugnificant difference when i used them & have tried them all .

Thanks for the words on the canna. I totally agree about the HR additives. All I'm sure of is they cost me money. My shop sells the RO formula and not much else...go figure.
 

dansbuds

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I like Canna nutes & if it weren't for the many many bottles & the prices on the boost & rhizo , i'd probably still be using it . i did very well with A & B & cannazyme alone in flower . the cannazyme as well as being an enzyme has a PK value . it just didn't produce buds as big as the V&B !!!
 

Ez Rider

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I like Canna nutes & if it weren't for the many many bottles & the prices on the boost & rhizo , i'd probably still be using it . i did very well with A & B & cannazyme alone in flower . the cannazyme as well as being an enzyme has a PK value . it just didn't produce buds as big as the V&B !!!

Rives recommended the PK as a 1 week only supplement, and I've always found his advice to be spot on. At $20 delivered from amazon for 1l, it's pretty cheap as an experiment.

I was planning on running it(PK) at full strength, then adding v+b to get my regular EC(1.6-1.7). This is for week 6, then I'll switch to a .3EC feed until harvest at the end of week 8. Opinions?
 

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