When I did use cal/mag at full strength, the extra ca started to lock out the P after a few weeks. That's what got me going with just epsom. So far, so good.
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any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom
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When I did use cal/mag at full strength, the extra ca started to lock out the P after a few weeks. That's what got me going with just epsom. So far, so good.
i only use on strains that need the extra calcium . sour bubble was the main one . shes a freakin cal hog !!! but 75% of my strains do great on the base alone . & i do have a couple Mag hungry strains like GG4 .
so its strain dependant as to whats added to the base if anything .
V&B has alot of cal & mag ..... so if it is needed by a strain ..... you don't need much !!! i've seen 2ml per gallon of calmag be to much & had to back off .
so its strain dependant as to whats added to the base if anything .
V&B has alot of cal & mag ..... so if it is needed by a strain ..... you don't need much !!! i've seen 2ml per gallon of calmag be to much & had to back off .
I'm at day 23 of flower with SB, no ca added since early veg. I droped the cal/mag in favor of the epsoms because the P was getting locked out by the extra Ca. What EC(base) were you feeding your SB?
Hi Ez Rider can you post some pics with P locked by extra Ca how do you noticed this like P deficiency or just buds doesn't grow?
Glad you found a pic...I couldn't
The p def starts in the lower leaves, and works its way up if i don't cut the camg.
by day 23 , my base EC for SB is usually around 1.4 plus the epsom like you , which will bring me up to about 1.6
I'm running more like 1.6-1.7 with the base. Depends how careful I am with the measuring spoon. I've been adding up to 1.5g/gal of epsoms, but I'm thinking of reducing that. According to my calculator, 1.5g/gal epsoms is 38ppm Mg and 50ppm S.
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I ordered a lb of V&B and just realized on the invoice that they charged me $14.00 for shipping. I called to question the charge and was told that $14.00 is for 2 day delivery service,I never asked for, or was offered 2 day service. I was told the package shipped on 7/1 and it is expected to be delivered 7/11. WTF??? I think Hydroponic-Research just figured out a way to increase profits. VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!
Its not HR ! they are using a shipping company the last 8 months or so & shit like that has been happening sense . next time use Chris's Email addy , tell him your from ICmag & what happened & i am willing to bet he'll cut you a deal ! he can email you an invoice to pay & they'll send it out direct . i deal with his wife Kate all the time ! helluva nice lady !!!
I am running a room of underdawg and a room of chem 4. I'm feeling my way around with calmag, epsom, RO, HD. Chem 4 got hungry on week 2/3, smacked her with 4ml/gal calmag and her leaves went vertical. Underdawg seems to be responding well to 2.5ml/gal calmag in her 2nd week. I am combining 4 to 1 ratio of RO to HD.
They should either refund the difference, or get it to you in 2 days. If not, dispute the charges
I'd be very careful of calmag and v+b. You're already looking at 10% Ca. Do you really need more? In light of the experience of several people in this thread, i'd recommend trying just Mg. Either with epsoms, or Safer's. I've had the excess Ca from using calmag cause a P lockout on me for sure.
few questions for the veg+bloom users...
1: do you use drip clean with it, when running drain to waste coco?
2: I cant find any instructions on use on they site, whats the dosage like, is there a feeding chart anywhere?
3:How does it do your ph compared to maxi? I know i put maxi in my 7.sumfa ph water and it lowers it to between 5.8-6, does the veg+bloom have the same ph lowering effect?
1: do you use drip clean with it, when running drain to waste coco?
2: I cant find any instructions on use on they site, whats the dosage like, is there a feeding chart anywhere?
3:How does it do your ph compared to maxi? I know i put maxi in my 7.sumfa ph water and it lowers it to between 5.8-6, does the veg+bloom have the same ph lowering effect?
few questions for the veg+bloom users...
1: do you use drip clean with it, when running drain to waste coco?
no
2: I cant find any instructions on use on they site, whats the dosage like, is there a feeding chart anywhere?
I feed by EC , 1.0 max in veg & 1.5 max in flower
3:How does it do your ph compared to maxi? I know i put maxi in my 7.sumfa ph water and it lowers it to between 5.8-6, does the veg+bloom have the same ph lowering effect?
yes it drops the PH like maxi does . stronger doses come out perfect at 5.9 , lower doses have to be brought up to 5.9 , i use protekt for that .
Mo , i feel that V&B lacks a little in veg , i use vitamin/hormone boost from MBferts & my veg is much healthier because of it
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Thats wuts up, I actually already ordered some uh that stuff as per your recommendation in another thread. Good lookin out!
You know anyone who has tried their base nutes or PK boosters? I'm curious because the v-h and clone solution seem top-notch. I actually need to order some more v-h. I may have to get a gallon this time. It's easy to burn through a qt with SourBubble's veg times. I'm definitely keeping the v-h in the fridge this time. I just don't like the looks of it after it sits out. Does the cone solution turn dark too? I've kept mine refrigerated, and it's stayed light purplish.
Why would anyone buy his V&H booster any more? He got slapped by the government and had to remove the good stuff(pgrs) from the V&H. Now he's selling reformulated crap. All thanks to that banned member Glow.
