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any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

Ez Rider

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Why would anyone buy his V&H booster any more? He got slapped by the government and had to remove the good stuff(pgrs) from the V&H. Now he's selling reformulated crap. All thanks to that banned member Glow.

I don't know that PGR's are "good stuff", they tend to be carcinogenic. I do know that my veg has been healthier with the addition of v-h, YMMV.
 

dansbuds

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You know anyone who has tried their base nutes or PK boosters? I'm curious because the v-h and clone solution seem top-notch. I actually need to order some more v-h. I may have to get a gallon this time. It's easy to burn through a qt with SourBubble's veg times. I'm definitely keeping the v-h in the fridge this time. I just don't like the looks of it after it sits out. Does the cone solution turn dark too? I've kept mine refrigerated, and it's stayed light purplish.


no i don't know anybody using the whole line . i have tried the stretch stopper , but it didn't make any differences in the stretch after 3 sprayings so i never tried it again . i don't keep mine cold , but yeah its darker , but haven't seen any problems using it or bad smells or anything from it . if i kept in the fridge , i'd never remember to grab it before i went down stairs lol :biggrin:

40 years ..... i seen something about them getting fined or whatever , but i never got to read it . you got a link to it so i can read it .
i did notice they have a new banner here & have added some stuff to their product list , so they couldn't have gotten slammed to bad .
 

Ez Rider

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no i don't know anybody using the whole line . i have tried the stretch stopper , but it didn't make any differences in the stretch after 3 sprayings so i never tried it again . i don't keep mine cold , but yeah its darker , but haven't seen any problems using it or bad smells or anything from it . if i kept in the fridge , i'd never remember to grab it before i went down stairs lol :biggrin:

40 years ..... i seen something about them getting fined or whatever , but i never got to read it . you got a link to it so i can read it .
i did notice they have a new banner here & have added some stuff to their product list , so they couldn't have gotten slammed to bad .

If anyone out there is/has used the whole Mb line-up, I for one would like to hear about it.:thank you:
 

stoned40yrs

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I don't know that PGR's are "good stuff", they tend to be carcinogenic. I do know that my veg has been healthier with the addition of v-h, YMMV.

and exactly how would you know it's still good stuff. It just happened this month. July 2nd. So you got the new stuff this week and already know it's good shit? If you don't like pgrs then why were you using his V&H booster? The KICK in that stuff was from:
Gibberellic acid
IBA
Triacontanol
Salicylic acid
Now he says he was able to replace these with organic sources: Bullshit:tiphat:
 
and exactly how would you know it's still good stuff. It just happened this month. July 2nd. So you got the new stuff this week and already know it's good shit? If you don't like pgrs then why were you using his V&H booster? The KICK in that stuff was from:
Gibberellic acid
IBA
Triacontanol
Salicylic acid
Now he says he was able to replace these with organic sources: Bullshit:tiphat:

Stoned any idea buddy on where we can get other stuff like that vitamin hormone booster or a copy cat?
 

stoned40yrs

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40 years ..... i seen something about them getting fined or whatever , but i never got to read it . you got a link to it so i can read it .
i did notice they have a new banner here & have added some stuff to their product list , so they couldn't have gotten slammed to bad .

They got slammed bad if ya ask me. All their synthetic plant hormones are gone. Trying to say they went organic with these so he doesn't lose all his customers. Now he has nothing, that was his only claim to fame. Before you could buy the raw ingredients he used in his V+H booster. Things like Triacontanol, Gibberellic acid, IBA and salicylic acid. All gone, that guy is lying to keep customers for the V&H booster now. Bullshit if he replaced them organically.
The banned poster Glow ratted him out. Glow came on here under a different name to gloat and I called him out. He erased all his posts and disappeared but I quoted one of his posts in mine so it's saved. Read my last post and then go to the link provided by him to his website- manicbotanics where he talks about MBFerts.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=281936&page=2
 

stoned40yrs

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Stoned any idea buddy on where we can get other stuff like that vitamin hormone booster or a copy cat?

I think so but haven't tried it yet and it's more expensive. It just got banned in Oregon for having the same hormones. It's called Humboldt Roots and is sold in other states.:biggrin: This will be the first one I try. No way I'm buying anymore V&H Booster after seeing what just went down.
 

dansbuds

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They got slammed bad if ya ask me. All their synthetic plant hormones are gone. Trying to say they went organic with these so he doesn't lose all his customers. Now he has nothing, that was his only claim to fame. Before you could buy the raw ingredients he used in his V+H booster. Things like Triacontanol, Gibberellic acid, IBA and salicylic acid. All gone, that guy is lying to keep customers for the V&H booster now. Bullshit if he replaced them organically.
The banned poster Glow ratted him out. Glow came on here under a different name to gloat and I called him out. He erased all his posts and disappeared but I quoted one of his posts in mine so it's saved. Read my last post and then go to the link provided by him to his website- manicbotanics where he talks about MBFerts.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=281936&page=2

well that sux !!!! i still have another gallon that i bought awhile ago , so i'll use that till its gone . give me time to find something else ...... fuckin rhizo is so expensive & skyrockets the PH , but it does work fantastic !


may have to switch up base nutes in veg all together , maybe maxi grow like slow raves about .
 

GET MO

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I been using maxi gro in veg since i switched to kaxy bloom for flower. Everyone said just run bloom all the way thru but didnt make sense to me if the got a veg specific same price n dosage. I jus wanted to switch cuz not tryna support gh anymore since they sold out to monsanto. Been adding uh lil nitrogen boost from h n g that i had left over and some jumpstart from canna but really it do fine without it.
 

Truthful

Member
Golden Tree is a bit more expensive than V+H Booster but it is mostly organic. It's suggested you use 2ml/gallon in veg 5ml in bloom vs the 7.5ml of V+H. My plants did good using at 1ml during veg, 2.5ml in bloom.
 

ICbuds

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Isn't Push foliar maxed out in plant extracted hormones? Why not try that? I spray my cuts down a couple days before transplant and they start growing right outta the dome.
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
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Golden Tree is a bit more expensive than V+H Booster but it is mostly organic. It's suggested you use 2ml/gallon in veg 5ml in bloom vs the 7.5ml of V+H. My plants did good using at 1ml during veg, 2.5ml in bloom.

Those of us that used it ran it at his recommended dose of 1.87 or 2ml/gal. Confusing because he sold a gallon at 4 times strength so you order a gallon and he sends you a quart of 4x. I doubt very many people ordered it in the gallon and paid a bunch more for shipping 3 quarts of water when you can just pay to ship a quart.
 

Ez Rider

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Veteran
and exactly how would you know it's still good stuff. It just happened this month. July 2nd. So you got the new stuff this week and already know it's good shit? If you don't like pgrs then why were you using his V&H booster? The KICK in that stuff was from:
Gibberellic acid
IBA
Triacontanol
Salicylic acid
Now he says he was able to replace these with organic sources: Bullshit:tiphat:

Didn't know about any of that. Why the attitude? It's not like I made the shit...
 

GET MO

Registered Med User
Veteran
my EC pen comin tomorrow but had to mix today, so i did it like maxi, bout 38 teaspoons for 40 gallons. Hope thats cool, if not Ill adjust tomorrow to an ec level. This stuff mixed SO Much easier than maxi.
 

DONAJTHEIII

Member
my EC pen comin tomorrow but had to mix today, so i did it like maxi, bout 38 teaspoons for 40 gallons. Hope thats cool, if not Ill adjust tomorrow to an ec level. This stuff mixed SO Much easier than maxi.

Both mix easy for me. I just dump a scoop of maxi into 5 gal bucket with 4 gal of water and give her a few stirs. Im using maxi this flowering cycle since I got 15lb for 80 bucks can't beat that. Veg+bloom kicked ass last round just cost 3x more. I cut cal mag in half with veg+bloom and give full dose 5ml/gal with maxi

Good luck :tiphat:
 
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