any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

[Lyfespan]

i only started using it in flower after your recomendations , & i stop everything but V&B by mid flower .... coco tends to hold onto certian nutes more than others & can build up a toxicity , especially Calcium . have read & been told many times that if your using calmag in coco , that by week 4 , drop the Cal & just add Mag if its needed .
you being in soil could probably go longer with it .

dans, does the calmag you are using have iron or any N in it? i had really bad reactions when using i think AN cal mag plus 4-0-0. it really burns my girls good in coco

 

[Lyfespan]

FWIW, I have a Sour Bubble and a Strawberry Diesel Kush that have been flushing for about 6 days, but I decreased the feed the last jug before I started flushing these. I notice that they are fading much faster than if you do not decrease the feeding until flush. I had to take them down an move them off to the side to , because I plan on flushing for 10-14 days. The SDK buds are very fat/dense...but look a bit different than with GH. SDK Yellows faster with GH, and the bud structure is different with VB. I will let everyone know they do after harvest. Will see how they contiue to flush. I am more concerned with the final product. MY SDK, yields very well. My Sour Bubble doesnt yield as well, but is high quality and everyone likes it. It isn a slow veggerthe VH booster helped with VB, but my 6/9 Plants grew faster and stretched more. But as I said before...I am looking for quality of end products. I am not growing Sour bubble for it's speed of growing or yield.mmmy pheno goes much longer than BOG claims...mine goes 9-10 weeks. not 8. I will share info on yields and quality once dried and jarred. The Sour Bubble is purpling more with VB vs my GH. my Space Bomb looks amazing, it is yellowing decently now and is bulking up. I wish I had decreased the feeding a full week before flush, but I have to be honest...it looks killer, just needs longer flush. It looks like possibly the nicest Space Bomb I have done ever. It really does well with VB, better than GH by far. GH yields look better on SDK vs VB. The LEDs are not as intense So I can flush longer under them, I have a 600 Watt led and 1000watt HPS in a 4x8! I move my plants to LEDs to Flush, it seems to bring out the trichs nicely and is less stressful vs my -@@ 1000 watt HPS only spots. I also have an ALL LED area. Certain strains excel in LED, while others yield a ton more unde HpS only.I like both, but o
Some strains need more CALMAG with LEDS.
During flush vs 1000 watt HPS , so you can flush longer.

my buds on the GG#4 i ran with V+B HD were short and squat, but hard and dense, yellowing down took to almost 70 days.

but again i was using that AN cal-mag plus 4-0-0

i cant say the K4L nutes have been doing any better as like you guys the dam calmag has something that wasnt dissolving, till i started adding it to full rez. i think what was happening is supersaturating, if i dumped the powders then added the water it seems to stay in suspension better

 

[dansbuds]

I've found that with Blumats and coco, the residual storage in the media was causing it to take several weeks for the feed to drop off after cutting the feed rate. Now when I cut the feed, I flush the plants and it has sped the process up immensely. This last run, the transition was done in a week and and it looks like it worked fine - we'll see after it cures.

rives , do you feed to runoff ? or just enough to keep them wet ?

if no runoff , i can see it taking longer to use up whats in the coco .

 

[dansbuds]

dans, does the calmag you are using have iron or any N in it? i had really bad reactions when using i think AN cal mag plus 4-0-0. it really burns my girls good in coco

i'll have to look & see lyfe .... i don't remember off hand . but i'm pretty sure it has extra Iron in it .
i just remember grabbing anything he had cuz he was out of the Techniflora .

 

[Tonygreen]

i only started using it in flower after your recomendations , & i stop everything but V&B by mid flower .... coco tends to hold onto certian nutes more than others & can build up a toxicity , especially Calcium . have read & been told many times that if your using calmag in coco , that by week 4 , drop the Cal & just add Mag if its needed .
you being in soil could probably go longer with it .

I think I am gonna try going even longer in wk 5-6 this time. See if an extra week or so helps the swell, trying to find that perfect point.
Prolly at half strength those weeks and see... Like a taper off instead of a cut off.

Im mixing up a fresh batch of mix after this run too, I think this is 4-5 recycle runs after a mix now lol....

 

[rives]

rives , do you feed to runoff ? or just enough to keep them wet ?

if no runoff , i can see it taking longer to use up whats in the coco .

No runoff.

I've never been able to find a point with Blumats where you could get a controlled level of runoff. For me at least, runoff is just the early stage of runaway.

 

[Lyfespan]

I think I am gonna try going even longer in wk 5-6 this time. See if an extra week or so helps the swell, trying to find that perfect point.
Prolly at half strength those weeks and see... Like a taper off instead of a cut off.

Im mixing up a fresh batch of mix after this run too, I think this is 4-5 recycle runs after a mix now lol....

been taking calmag all the way to flush with that last week at half, you do see a difference tony, but again this cal mag is 8-0-0

 

[Ez Rider]

but again this cal mag is 8-0-0

WOW! Just add some GH bloom to it, and call it good...

I thought 2-0-0 was a lot.

 

[the gnome]

is MB Hormone-Vitamin Booster soil friendly?
or is it a coco supplemant?

 

[Ez Rider]

is MB Hormone-Vitamin Booster soil friendly?
or is it a coco supplemant?

I believe it's good in any medium.

 

[down2grow]

Dansbud,

I tried searching this thread to see what your dtw system looks like. Is it a Pico style manifold with black holes or are you just laying vinyl tubing on top of the coco?

 

[dansbuds]

I don't really have many good pics of my drip system since i set the tents in the basement , but i'll try to find a couple . its just mainly 1/2" vinyl tubing to 3/8ths tubing to the halos , pumped from a 55 gallon barrel . with catch trays that i suck the runoff out of with a shop vac .

 

[Lyfespan]

WOW! Just add some GH bloom to it, and call it good...

I thought 2-0-0 was a lot.

right, its given me issues in the past with cuts, burns some starves other

 

[dansbuds]

is MB Hormone-Vitamin Booster soil friendly?
or is it a coco supplemant?

yeah Gnome ..... any medium .

 

[the gnome]

thanx dans... next Q
I got it in today
4X 1.87mil per gal, found the feed schedule but no remarks when to use?

how are you guys doing it?
weekly? every feed/water

 

[PetFlora]

i also believe you would never have to worry about extra cal or mag with the veg+bloom.

Many hi-intensity LED growers add ~ 50 ppm Epsom Salt

 

[dansbuds]

thanx dans... next Q
I got it in today
4X 1.87mil per gal, found the feed schedule but no remarks when to use?

how are you guys doing it?
weekly? every feed/water

i only feed veg with it , it will make plants stretch alot more when used in flower . I mix it right in with the V&B & feed everytime with it .

 

[stoned40yrs]

I only use it in veg also, give it to them everyday. I switched over from Canna to V+B RO/Soft yesterday in my perpetual, giving it a try.

 

[the gnome]

i only feed veg with it , it will make plants stretch alot more when used in flower . I mix it right in with the V&B & feed everytime with it .

oops... i hit my plants in bloom sat. with it
1/2 the plants in there were put in a few days prior and other 1/2
have been in since the 1st of may.
ah well.

as always thanx for the heads up senor dans

 

[Ez Rider]

oops... i hit my plants in bloom sat. with it
1/2 the plants in there were put in a few days prior and other 1/2
have been in since the 1st of may.
ah well.

as always thanx for the heads up senor dans

I'm going to use it in early flower in the hopes that it DOES make my sourbubble stretch more.