any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

[Green_Farm]

What vitamin/hormone booster? mbferts? I've noticed my roots becoming pure white with the Canna Rhizotonic.

 

[Green_Farm]

I also started using +size last week for the first time. I do believe I can tell a difference over using the straight powder. I also switched from the HD to RO. It definitely mixes a lot cleaner and PH is perfect with +size, +life, and RO. I might check out the BOOST, but my plants veg fast enough for me

 

[Green_Farm]

I guess my bubble could use some side branching.

 

[d4nk]

Time is money. I can dose a whole facility in a .25 of the time. easy clean routine. I ran PBP for a minute. Too much weight. I want to move easy through my grow, clean, precise. A scale, a bag, a reservoir,, over and over, the same guy with the same job once a week, got to live and play ! but the push is the true shit anyway

weighing two powders and measuring out one, takes longer than measuring out 4 liquids. and i hate wearing a mask.

would be easier on a cart set up.

push is ok, cant really say i see it do much.

and they are putting out a lot of additives to be pushing their product as a one part.

buds looked and smelled great. burnt and tasted mediocre

 

[Ez Rider]

What vitamin/hormone booster? mbferts? I've noticed my roots becoming pure white with the Canna Rhizotonic.

Yes, MbFerts vitamin-hormone boost.

 

[slowandeasy]

it is with the addition of the vitamin/hormone booster , without out it , slow has better luck in veg with maxi grow , but yeah , a little higher feed might be in order without the V/H .

flower strength seems at a good strength , its what i use .

Hey db,
As you know I am toying around with VB a lot. I recently made a 4x4 tent with 400 watt LED AND 220w PL-l into a veg tent. I have 3 different strains in the tent, 4 of them are Sour Bubbles. I have been feeding them 1.2EC and 2ml of hormone booster and a little Epsom salts. They were doing great, now the past few days they look like they are getting a mag def, possibly cal starting too. LEDs make plants more mag hungry..but the other 2 Strains are perfect. Are you adding cal-mag to your VB or just Epsom for your Sour Bubble crosses? I am gonna switch out the LED light tomorrow, my SOUR BUBBLES don't do that under Flouros or HPS. I might make a little jug of VB and put cal-mag in it instead of just epsoms. But I know changing the LED OUT will decrease the deficencies. I have had a Sour Bubble mom getting fed VB and a little mag for a really long time. Under Flouros...it stays perfectly healthy. Just curious if you are adding cal-mag or just Epsom to those SB.. Thans

 

[dansbuds]

Hey db,
As you know I am toying around with VB a lot. I recently made a 4x4 tent with 400 watt LED AND 220w PL-l into a veg tent. I have 3 different strains in the tent, 4 of them are Sour Bubbles. I have been feeding them 1.2EC and 2ml of hormone booster and a little Epsom salts. They were doing great, now the past few days they look like they are getting a mag def, possibly cal starting too. LEDs make plants more mag hungry..but the other 2 Strains are perfect. Are you adding cal-mag to your VB or just Epsom for your Sour Bubble crosses? I am gonna switch out the LED light tomorrow, my SOUR BUBBLES don't do that under Flouros or HPS. I might make a little jug of VB and put cal-mag in it instead of just epsoms. But I know changing the LED OUT will decrease the deficencies. I have had a Sour Bubble mom getting fed VB and a little mag for a really long time. Under Flouros...it stays perfectly healthy. Just curious if you are adding cal-mag or just Epsom to those SB.. Thans

yes , the SB & her crosses need the extra CalMag . i've been adding up to 5ml per gallon on some of the more hungry ones .
GG4 & 1 or 2 of her crosses are the only ones that need just epsom .

 

[Lyfespan]

yes , the SB & her crosses need the extra CalMag . i've been adding up to 5ml per gallon on some of the more hungry ones .
GG4 & 1 or 2 of her crosses are the only ones that need just epsom .

hey hey Dans, i have been just recently tossing in epsom into my mixes, along with the calmag, just wondering if you have tried the sulpomag or langbeignite ever?

 

[dansbuds]

hey hey Dans, i have been just recently tossing in epsom into my mixes, along with the calmag, just wondering if you have tried the sulpomag or langbeignite ever?

no ..... never heard of them to be honest .

 

[Lyfespan]

no ..... never heard of them to be honest .

http://www.amazon.com/GreenSense-Sul-Po-Mag-50-lb/dp/B00025H3FI/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1459119140&sr=1-2&keywords=sulpomag

http://www.amazon.com/Down-Earth-Langbeinite-Potassium-Fertilizer/dp/B00VJN96LG/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1459119334&sr=1-1&keywords=langbeinite

 

[CHEFfy]

Went back to heavy 16 after a year with V&b. Loved the ease etc..., but the heavy just works better for me in the end. That being said, would def refer friends to V&B when starting out/having problems. Oh yeah, plus heavy is cheaper. I consider performance and overall value when calculating price and even though I pay for the extra weight of water in the formula, heavy wins out. Thanks HR.

 

[DONAJTHEIII]

it is with the addition of the vitamin/hormone booster , without out it , slow has better luck in veg with maxi grow , but yeah , a little higher feed might be in order without the V/H .

flower strength seems at a good strength , its what i use .

ok forsure i looked up MB ferts seems like good stuff but is it compatible with h202 dan ? i run a sterile res and its something I dont want to change.


PS: heres the photo i promised first day of bloom V+B FTW so far @ 1.1ec bumping her up to 1.2ec with 2ml magical tomorrow. 3 feeds a day right now and shes loving it.

 

[Lyfespan]

ok forsure i looked up MB ferts seems like good stuff but is it compatible with h202 dan ? i run a sterile res and its something I dont want to change.


PS: heres the photo i promised first day of bloom V+B FTW so far @ 1.1ec bumping her up to 1.2ec with 2ml magical tomorrow. 3 feeds a day right now and shes loving it.

ok its killing me, whats magical. all im picturing is some wand action, or its it calmag just backwards? either way my stoned way is cracking up

 

[Pro Headies]

ok its killing me, whats magical. all im picturing is some wand action, or its it calmag just backwards? either way my stoned way is cracking up

Technalflora Magical, has calcium chloride in it, nasty cheap low grade ingredient. I use to use it for almost decade. Switched to botanicares cal mag that uses calcium nitrate and is a better product then Magical and has no chloride before i switched to maxigrow/ Dirty HR formula.

 

[dansbuds]

ok forsure i looked up MB ferts seems like good stuff but is it compatible with h202 dan ? i run a sterile res and its something I dont want to change.


PS: heres the photo i promised first day of bloom V+B FTW so far @ 1.1ec bumping her up to 1.2ec with 2ml magical tomorrow. 3 feeds a day right now and shes loving it.

that i'm not sure of Donaj ...... will have to do some research .

 

[DONAJTHEIII]

Technalflora Magical, has calcium chloride in it, nasty cheap low grade ingredient. I use to use it for almost decade. Switched to botanicares cal mag that uses calcium nitrate and is a better product then Magical and has no chloride before i switched to maxigrow/ Dirty HR formula.

I switched from botanicare to technaflora. Although the statement has some truth above both contain calcium nitrate as well. I'm the opposite it's cleaner than botanicare.side by side I can see cloudy botanicare compared to clear clean magical. It's just me though I don't think it makes a huge difference I'm just happy with magical and how it looks. It's a good product if you were having issues with it than it was probably user error.

 

[LEDSmoke]

Hey dansbud, any idea if the new mistking timer works for our application now? They have some big warning label on their site saying only works with their system.
If not any recommendations on another timer?

 

[Pro Headies]

I switched from botanicare to technaflora. Although the statement has some truth above both contain calcium nitrate as well. I'm the opposite it's cleaner than botanicare.side by side I can see cloudy botanicare compared to clear clean magical. It's just me though I don't think it makes a huge difference I'm just happy with magical and how it looks. It's a good product if you were having issues with it than it was probably user error.

Dont get me wrong i liked technalflora line, id still use it if HR didnt come along except for the magical. I never had issues with any of there products not working right. It was brought to my attention by either Ornamental or glow that the chloride is bad for the end product and is used to keep cost down. User error....go check out my gallery's all the pics were taken while running full technalflora line.

 

[dansbuds]

Hey dansbud, any idea if the new mistking timer works for our application now? They have some big warning label on their site saying only works with their system.
If not any recommendations on another timer?

no it doesn't ! they stopped making the type i bought . they started making them 24volt now to ease into their system & said fuck us growers ....
google seconds timers ..... theres a few of them made now .

 

[Lyfespan]

Hey dansbud, any idea if the new mistking timer works for our application now? They have some big warning label on their site saying only works with their system.
If not any recommendations on another timer?

led maybe this one
http://www.greenerhydroponics.com/Digital-Short-Cycle-Timer-_p_80782.html