any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

[organiclover]

still loving v+b
if reusing peat be sure to flush well as salts will build up. I started monitoring my runoff and adjusting accordingly.

 

[jayjayfrank]

whatcha need to know JJfrank ? its a light feeder in flower more so than veg . 1.3 is the most i'll give her now , cuz i locked it up a couple of times going over that .
in veg she likes a little extra Mag ..... other than that is a easy strain to grow . will take to topping & training very nicely .

so far the plan is to 'mainline' her into 16 or so tops tied down, then double trellis during stretch when flowering. lollipop the unders.

my tap is anywhere between 150-225ppm(0.3EC-0.45EC)

80% hydroton/20%coco in 5 gal buckets, flood and drain. HPS+MH.

i picked her up from a local dark heart nursery drop seeing as how these forums advertise the cut now on the top banner every once in awhile.

probably atleast 30 days veg with tap formula.

first 20 days of flower mostly all HD formula i think, take out 0.2EC or so and replace with +size till day 30 and then cut the HD formula in half and up the +size till day 40 or so. after that +size and then just water starting around day 45 till chop. maybe day 65 or so?

sound like a plan dan?

kinda worried the tap ppm doesnt give me much room EC wise for nutrients with the 1.3max.

could be a chance to see how well supplemental foilar feeding really works.

 

[dansbuds]

sounds pretty good to me ! you could probably up the EC a tad cuz of the EC of your water , its more than likely mostly sodium . so feed to plenty of runoff & get it out ASAP . its gonna take a little tweeking of the EC with your water to find that sweet spot . the leaves will tell you whats going on . Mag def if your feeding to low & tip burn if its to hot . just read them & adjust accordingly .

 

[Aspenou812]

I just about have the PH issues under control now, This is my Dinafem Cheese in 80/20 coco perlite mix with the veg+bloom Dirty. If i mix up a 1/2 gallon of dirty and let it sit overnight then adjust the PH right before i use the 1/2 gallon. I collect the runoff test the PH and adjust the next feeding but always keeping it between 5.8 to 6.2, she is starting to green up but yall can clearly see where the ph went sideways when i switched to the DIRTY. The Dirty once mixed in my water will settle at 6.5 ph in a few hours.

 

[dansbuds]

I just about have the PH issues under control now, This is my Dinafem Cheese in 80/20 coco perlite mix with the veg+bloom Dirty. If i mix up a 1/2 gallon of dirty and let it sit overnight then adjust the PH right before i use the 1/2 gallon. I collect the runoff test the PH and adjust the next feeding but always keeping it between 5.8 to 6.2, she is starting to green up but yall can clearly see where the ph went sideways when i switched to the DIRTY. The Dirty once mixed in my water will settle at 6.5 ph in a few hours.

yup , thats exactly what happened to me when i used the dirty formula ! if you adjust the PH right before you feed with it every time .... you should have no problems Aspen

6.2 is a little high though , try to feed at 5.9 for that sweet spot where all the nutes are available . i can see a calcium def in your plants from the PH being to high .

 

[Aspenou812]

I have been feeding at ph 5.8 on a daily basis so i tested the runoff last night and here are the numbers. 1/2 gallon 900 ppm .5 scale or 1.8 ec ph 6.0 the the runoff that i captured was 1000 ppm .5 scale or 2.0 ec and 5.63 ph so what do you think? where to go from here?

 

[dansbuds]

your not really going to get an accurate reading on the runoff from coco without doing a slurry test . which is taking some of the coco out of the pot & mixing in some RO water making a slurry & testing that water after its strained . the numbers from just testing straight runoff will always be higher .

 

[Aspenou812]

your not really going to get an accurate reading on the runoff from coco without doing a slurry test . which is taking some of the coco out of the pot & mixing in some RO water making a slurry & testing that water after its strained . the numbers from just testing straight runoff will always be higher .

Is the slurry test for the EC or PH Dans? My runoff ph was a little low @ 5.63 is that a problem? i dont think i have much of an issue at all with salty build up at this point. Today is day 8 of flower and i just want healthy plant and some good smoke! lol

 

[DankemsHunter]

I stopped testing my runoff for coco. I noticed sometimes that my runoff EC would be much higher than going in, and my plants were perking straight up thriving. Sometimes I would test it and my EC would be the same going out as in, and my plants were acting strange. I just keep my EC around 1.0-1.4 for most strains with a tiny bit of runoff and havent had issues since. I like water till about 25% runoff once a week with some Drip Clean just to make sure nothing is building up. Just have to read your plants and adjust accordingly.

 

[dansbuds]

Is the slurry test for the EC or PH Dans? My runoff ph was a little low @ 5.63 is that a problem? i dont think i have much of an issue at all with salty build up at this point. Today is day 8 of flower and i just want healthy plant and some good smoke! lol

it would give a better indication of both EC & PH than straight runoff .

no , i doubt its a problem . its more than likely just not an accurate reading .

i've given up testing the runoff myself . i can tell by the plants whats basicly going on . its a hydro medium , so defs & fixes show pretty fast . & with you using V&B any formula , i know theres enough calmag in the base nutes , which is why i was saying your PH is probably to high going in . a PH of 5.8 or more & the plants can't uptake Calcium .( look at the chart )

pluck all the bad leaves off the plant so you can see if its still happening after a few days . once the leaf shows a problem they don't ever get green again , so pluck the bad ones so you can watch the plants reaction to your feeds .


one more thing i noticed after going back & reading your posts Aspen , is i think your feeds are a little strong too . i never go above 1.4 MAX unless its a really hungry strain like the sour bubbles i'm running now . I had similar problems when i fed that high . weird defs would show & the normal fixes wouldn't work . ran the same strain on a lower dose & everything was much better . is there any tip burn on the leaves ?
i've never run any cheese strains , but everything i've read about them says they're a finiky plant & feeds have to be spot on to keep them happy .

 

[organiclover]

i would drop the feed aspen
start around 1.5 and at highest in wk6 you should be @ 1.8

 

[Aspenou812]

Thanks everyone, i will drop the feeding down to 1.4 EC tomorrow when i feed again thanks for that advice the very tip's on some of the leaves is burned so i flushed with 2 gallons of PH corrected water @ 0.3 EC the last two days. Will drop the EC back to 1.4 when i feed tomorrow! Today was day 8 of flower so 6 weeks and 6 days till i chop her. Unless she get ready before then.

 

[Alpha Phase]

What's up v+b gang? I'm harvesting this weekend. Here's my v+b results as of week 10. I'm sold on it. Have a good week everyone.

 

[DankemsHunter]

Absolutely crushing it Alpha Phase..... What strain is your last picture? Looks like she's a giver lol..

 

[Alpha Phase]

Absolutely crushing it Alpha Phase..... What strain is your last picture? Looks like she's a giver lol..

Thanks man, the strain in the last picture is Purple Paralysis, the plant seems like it will be a huge yielder. It's mostly sativa (pure power plant x lavender) - It was my first run with the strain so I'm going to run it again by itself instead of next to different strains and see what she can really do

 

[Grizz]

well I had switched to hd veg and bloom and I must say I had the best looking gg4 that I have ever had before leo took them. I know it works and works well, Chris is a great guy and did me right. V&b will be my choise if I ever get growing again

 

[ghostmade]

damn Joey sorry to hear about your bad luck bro.sucks balls bro.wish you the best of luck.at least the glue is well spread

 

[rives]

well I had switched to hd veg and bloom and I must say I had the best looking gg4 that I have ever had before leo took them. I know it works and works well, Chris is a great guy and did me right. V&b will be my choise if I ever get growing again

Damn. Very sorry to hear about this. Did this just happen recently or have I had my head under a rock?

Don't you live in California?

 

[jayjayfrank]

i know right rives, utter fucking heart break to hear about that one....

if JW says v+b is it, end of thread/

it was nice talking to you guys, laters

 

[ghostmade]

Yeah now all we need is for krunch to say it so.and its game over.I'm guessing it might cost a few hundred g's.lmao.