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any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

ICbuds

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I use a smartpot, zip-tied around my pump, as a filter. as for the VB, sprinkle it , like powdered sugar o-n a donut, while your pump is on. I also get more dust when I'm not changing out my water filters on a reg basis.
+size is .3EC 1g/gal, spray it on all my gals now too and tip growth is thicker and stronger then anything I've seen. I foliar at .3EC
crushing right now in a high quality market
 

RhodyBudz7533

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I'm going to try a filter bag next time I clean my res. Hopefully this will confine the sediment to the lower res, and away from my feed lines. I'll let you know. So far, the only clog in the 3mm has been from roots growing up the line. If I have any real issues, I'll install canister filters on the feed lines. Chris says it's an "aesthetic nuisance" only. Maybe I'll send him a water sample if it bothers me enough. I would like to know what is going on. Anyone know what he charges for water analysis?

http://www.blumats.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=154

this filter is made to run with blumats, check it out
 

slowandeasy

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I use a smartpot, zip-tied around my pump, as a filter. as for the VB, sprinkle it , like powdered sugar o-n a donut, while your pump is on. I also get more dust when I'm not changing out my water filters on a reg basis.
+size is .3EC 1g/gal, spray it on all my gals now too and tip growth is thicker and stronger then anything I've seen. I foliar at .3EC
crushing right now in a high quality market


You foliar feeding daily? chris told me 1x per week
 

Aspenou812

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So i have 5 pounds of dirty and would like to use it but i only grow in coco! And i know do the 50% - 50% mix with the Tap/Hard formula but i'm not going to do that! I will buy the H/D asap but in the mean time does anyone have any ideas about a good peat mix? Pros and Cons? i just hate having to adjust my ph as much as i do with the dirty in coco! I know this is a great nutrient and a great company to use. Chris just rocks every time i contact him wish i could smoke a joint with him! Anyways guys some advise would be great.
 
Quick question regarding +Size additive...

I'm currently 9 days post 12/12 flip, feeding veg+bloom HD base at 1.2EC which is the highest I've fed so far. Should I keep feeding at 1.2EC until 3 weeks in and then start adding +size? I'm seeing minor pistil growth right now.

Can anyone give a recommendation on how many ppm of size to add at week 3? Would it make sense to drop my base back to 1.0EC and then add +size back up to 1.2, or should I keep the base as-is and add +size to push the EC up even higher?

I think I'm confusing myself with measurements by weight vs EC. I haven't measured anything by weight, just by EC. So when I see 1 to 2 grams per gallon on the container, it doesn't mean much to me. I did see a previous post where someone mentioned 1gram of +size came out to 125ppm. Is this accurate? Perhaps cut 125ppm out of my base and add 125ppm of +size at week 3?

Also, would it make any sense to start adding +size slowly? For example, adding 50ppm of +size starting today and hitting a full dose at week 3?

Thanks!
 

dansbuds

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the plus size doesn't add much EC to the final tally when added , but i still cut my base back to 1.0 or 1.1 when adding the plus size , just to be safe .
& yeah , keep it at 1.2 till you do add it . then drop back to 1.0 after you stop useing it for one week , then leach till the chop . thats what i do anyways .....
 

dansbuds

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So i have 5 pounds of dirty and would like to use it but i only grow in coco! And i know do the 50% - 50% mix with the Tap/Hard formula but i'm not going to do that! I will buy the H/D asap but in the mean time does anyone have any ideas about a good peat mix? Pros and Cons? i just hate having to adjust my ph as much as i do with the dirty in coco! I know this is a great nutrient and a great company to use. Chris just rocks every time i contact him wish i could smoke a joint with him! Anyways guys some advise would be great.


do you have anything other than the dirty formula ? if you have the tap or hard water formulas you could use either of them till the HD comes in . otherwise just use the dirty , but mix & hand feed with it right away to avoid the PH fluctuations .
 

Aspenou812

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do you have anything other than the dirty formula ? if you have the tap or hard water formulas you could use either of them till the HD comes in . otherwise just use the dirty , but mix & hand feed with it right away to avoid the PH fluctuations .

So if i mix and feed right away i can flower with it? wouldn't the ph in the media be to high over time? My plants are in a scrog right now so i wont be able to flush them out.:tiphat:
 

dansbuds

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no it won't raise once its in the coco , as long as you feed with it right away , you'll be fine with it . my kid used a whole 5 gallon tub of it that way & had 0 problems .
 
the plus size doesn't add much EC to the final tally when added , but i still cut my base back to 1.0 or 1.1 when adding the plus size , just to be safe .
& yeah , keep it at 1.2 till you do add it . then drop back to 1.0 after you stop useing it for one week , then leach till the chop . thats what i do anyways .....

So, you only run it for one week? Every day?

I recall seeing some posts from others saying they run it until flush at the end increasing the ratio of size:veg+bloom until they are just feeding size at the end. I've also seen recommendations to not use more than 3 consecutive days.

HR suggests running it from weeks 3-7.

So much varying information out there!
 

Tonatiuh

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Seeingthings,i think he meant when he stops using it,he feeds at 1.0 for a week....not uses it for 1 week...

im sure he will correct me if im wrong but thats the way i understood it.

peace-T-
 

dansbuds

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yup , i run it from week 3 to 6 then feed at 1.0 for a week after i'm done with the plus size ,then leach till the chop .
sorry for the miss communication :biggrin:
 

Ez Rider

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yup , i run it from week 3 to 6 then feed at 1.0 for a week after i'm done with the plus size ,then leach till the chop .
sorry for the miss communication :biggrin:

Hey dansbuds,

You ever run any of BOG's strains on this program? Results?
 

dansbuds

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i'm running some SB crosses right now & they're needing a higher EC than anything else i run . they're still in veg & they're getting 1.4 & asking for more . also had to add some epsom salts for a mag def that showed on a couple .

so yeah , the feeds i've been saying in this thread are a base line . it'll need to be tweeked for hungry or light feeders strains of course .

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hungry little bitches thats fer sure !!!
 

dansbuds

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the couple that are asking for some Magnesium ..... pretty sure its a rootbound problem more than a def , cuz they're in 5" pots waiting on sex to show so i can transplant the females . these were transplanted the same day the pic was taken & they're starting to look better only after 3 days .

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Ez Rider

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the couple that are asking for some Magnesium ..... pretty sure its a rootbound problem more than a def , cuz they're in 5" pots waiting on sex to show so i can transplant the females . these were transplanted the same day the pic was taken & they're starting to look better only after 3 days .

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Thanks for the info dan:tiphat: I'm in week 5, giving my SB .4-.5 +size, then adding base to make 1.6...they seem to like it. I'm going to keep them at this feed thru week 6, feed just +size @ .5, for week 7, then flush for week 8. We'll see how it turns out. Why do you stop the +size at the end, and go on with base? Cutting the N first seems like a better idea to me.
 

slowandeasy

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dans buds,

sour bubble does not like small pots....it will stop growing. But give it plent of root space and she will grow nice and big, a lot faster! Only strain I have that is root bound sensitive so badly. Up pot brother!

I have to clone and transplant mine tonight infact. Use a 3 gal pot, she will grow much better
 
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