any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

[slowandeasy]

So I have had my RO vs Dirty SDK plants in jars for about 5 days. I did not weigh it yet, but the should be pretty close. However, the buds look different and different density. The RO has better bag appeal, with more frost. Too early to tell how they will cure. Both smell really good. I had vaped a couple samples of each, and the RO produced bigger hits. I also burned a joint of each. Obviously the taste and smell is not like it will be once cured, but both burned well. But the RO sample was much more potent.

My next experiment is the 2 Cheesequake clones, a strain I grew from seed many years ago...so I know what to expect. So it is HD vs 6/9, so far 6/9 is Vegging faster. But the HD is not that far behind and the nodes are closer together.

This girl grows a ton of veg and does not stretch much, it gets bushy. So I prefer more stretch on her, To speed things up. I plan on Vegging another week or so, and will report results at flip and weekly. So far 6/9 is slightly ahead, but there is a long time to go, and I am more concerned with quality of end product. I will use +SIZE with both weeks 3-6 usually take 10 weeks and she can be tip burn easily.

And lastly, I grew a a few old Space Bomb seeds that I have had forever. 2/3 female. One vegged super fast, cloned fast, finished in 8 weeks and harvested today! The other is slow vegger and small/bushy. Will be flipping soon. Anyways, I took a chance and used 6/9 and+SIZE on a plant from seed, not knowing how long it might go....but it is supposed to finish fast. The +size does not raise EC much and I used it fr om about week 2.5 to 5.5. The plant did really well plumping up and looks Amzing! Super Frosty and Chunky, it is the 1st run, nothing to compare it to...but I am impressed with the Denisty and frostiness! I hope the dried product is good... Because it looks like a keeper! It faded beautifully and flushed great. Should be killer! I am using +SIZE with 6/9 with Great results so far. Will see how HD does.

 

[Tonatiuh]

I use it from week 3 to 6 at 1 tsp per 5gallons

thanks Dan...
veg is doing good and i have a group in flower at about 2 weeks...ill bring some pics soon.
when they start showing some action...

is anyone using the + Size as a foliar?i want to use it for foliar in veg but not sure of the ratios to mix it at....i guess ur supposed to use in veg and 1st 2 weeks of flower.

also if any one is using the + Life,was wondering when,and how...as a foliar or in rez...
ratios...

thanks.
peace-T-

 

[Ez Rider]

thanks Dan...
veg is doing good and i have a group in flower at about 2 weeks...ill bring some pics soon.
when they start showing some action...

is anyone using the + Size as a foliar?i want to use it for foliar in veg but not sure of the ratios to mix it at....i guess ur supposed to use in veg and 1st 2 weeks of flower.

also if any one is using the + Life,was wondering when,and how...as a foliar or in rez...
ratios...

thanks.
peace-T-

I'm not doing any foliar's, but I do add the +life to my rez. I use it @ 1/4tsp per 4 gallons. Doesn't seem to have any affect on the EC.

 

[Alpha Phase]

Day 26 of 12/12. Two other strains frosting up early with v+b and +size. These are 9-10 week strains so I can't wait to see what they look like in a month.

 

[PetFlora]

First Run Using +Size

First Run Using +Size

Just harvested 4 Med-Man Silver Skunk BBCC F1+ (I pollinated BBCC with BM male from original MM seeds

Buds are considerably fatter, BUT, I also changed from a BML SPYDR 600 LED (~340w) to 2 Amare Technologies Solar Sec 150s= 300w, which are high intensity diodes with clear secondary lens covers

Trimmed buds on yellow background is all 4 plants, minus close trim leaf

The individual buds in the pan were all lower stem. Pretty damn fat due to excellent penetration of the SSs

 

[OrganicFarmer]

Week 3 of flower dirty and +size. 1.2 ec and looking great.

 

[Tonatiuh]

where do you guys top off at ec wise?
im going into week 3 of flower at 1.3 ec...just wondering where everyone else runs theirs at so i can know if im in the right ballpark or not.
+ size starts in the feed mix this week.

i know it was said that the + size doesnt affect ec at all
but do u guys drop down the V+B mix any when u add the + size?

thanks.
peace-T-

 

[Ez Rider]

where do you guys top off at ec wise?
im going into week 3 of flower at 1.3 ec...just wondering where everyone else runs theirs at so i can know if im in the right ballpark or not.
+ size starts in the feed mix this week.

i know it was said that the + size doesnt affect ec at all
but do u guys drop down the V+B mix any when u add the + size?

thanks.
peace-T-

It was the +life that I said won't affect the EC. I'm now running it @1/8tsp per 4gallons, after talking to HR. I'm a few days out from starting with the +size, but I'm pretty sure it will have some affect on the EC. Most everyone, including HR recommends cutting back the base some when you use the +size.

I've seen people say they were running as strong as 1.8 or as weak as 1.0, all in full flower. HR advised my to push vegging plantsfor several weeks, until I got a slight burn. I could then consider the previous week's dose to be my "maximum EC". Once the maximum dose is determined, I was advised to "Oscillate to this EC throughout the process to master your plants output." HR also advised: "Don't taper(the EC) until pistillate production slows."

This is my first run with v+b, so I'm being conservative. My plants were almost fully vegged when I switched to v+b, and I'm not willing to risk burn in flower. I did run up to 1.6, but some of the lower leaves were getting that "waxy" look. I also showed a few "ram horns", so I backed off to 1.4. When it comes time to add the +size, I'll add it first, then add the base till I get my 1.4EC. I'll run with this probably up thru week 5. HR advised me to run the +size from day 18-50 for a 8 week strain. I haven't decided what to do after week 5, but I've got 3 weeks to think about it.

One nice thing about HR is the technical support. Chris is very helpful, and answers customer questions promptly...drop him an e-mail and see.Here on the Mag, dansbuds and rives have been a lot of help too

 

[Alpha Phase]

The +size didn't really raise my ec much either, maybe 50ppm or so, I can't remember exactly but I remember it being well under 100ppm (.15 ec-ish)

 

[Ez Rider]

The +size didn't really raise my ec much either, maybe 50ppm or so, I can't remember exactly but I remember it being well under 100ppm (.15 ec-ish)

Really? I just started with +size today. 1tsp/4 gallons=0.4EC for me. How much you using?

 

[PetFlora]

Really? I just started with +size today. 1tsp/4 gallons=0.4EC for me. How much you using?

I started a + Size thread. Please support it

 

[Alpha Phase]

Really? I just started with +size today. 1tsp/4 gallons=0.4EC for me. How much you using?

I used 4 tsp for 20 gallon res (.7 conversion so 0.15ec) it didn't seem right to me but that's what it came out to be and then I added the v+b. I might have gotten a weak batch possibly? It was just a sample I had.

 

[dansbuds]

no , you guys are good . the plus size doesn't seem to raise the EC much at all , but i still drop my base back by .2 EC just in case .

 

[Alpha Phase]

I just did a res change and added 3 tsp of +size to 20 gallon water (75% strength) and it was 60ppm total. This isn't right? This is a little less than 0.1ec @ 75% strength. What's everyone else getting for an EC at full strength?

 

[Alpha Phase]

Ok, thanks dansbuds! Ignore the last post, I didn't see you're reply as I was writing it.

 

[Medium Pimpin']

+size @ 1gram/ gallon barely raises my EC.
My satty ladies stay about 1-1.2 EC and are happy for the most part.
I don't really run too many Indy Dom ladies, but I could prolly push them harder.
The +size def helps them pump out the resin.

I've been mixing v&b tap and dirty in flower.
Once I run out I'll try the HD, for some reason the ph steady rises on me with the 2 new tubs I bought.
Nothing drastic, I run smaller res' (10-15 gallon totes) but have to ph down every 2-3 days.
I'm guessing it's the dirty that does this.

I also add sm90, drip clean and some vitamin/hormone booster from mbferts.

 

[dansbuds]

pimpin ,you still running blumats ? i don't need the drip clean with the 1/4" tubing & pumps . the V&B is clean enough i don't need it as long as i run to runoff everytime . i read people were getting shitty tasting buds from running the DC .... dunno personally .

 

[seeingthings]

Anyone running the new HD version of veg+bloom?

I'm currently a month in with hempy buckets, mostly perlite with some coco mixed in. Started feeding seedlings at .5ec. Over time worked my way up to 1.2ec saw some tip burn and backed down to 1.0ec. Always feeding at 5.8ph, about once a day now with adequate runoff.

Everything seems to be going well so far. I've got low RH so they don't look as happy as they could be. I am seeing what looks like a mag deficiency only on the very top of the plant - which is new to me. I've applied some mag via foliar and have also started using "Life" which has helped a bit.

From what I've read I'm thinking the deficiency could be caused by the low EC feed. I'm hesitant to push it higher though as this is my first run with this particular strain.

I suppose it's possible my ph is too low. Maybe I'll try bumping up my ph to 5.9 or 6.0 for a day or two and see if anything improves before throwing more mg at it.

 

[dansbuds]

i think your on the right track seeingthings . i would have suggested a epsom foliar too , but your doing that .
depending on what strains you run , some can be calmag hogs , i'm running into that with my sour bubble crosses . i'm at a higher EC than i ever run & they're still showing a mag def . i've added a half tsp of epsom to my feeds & its helped a little .
you may need to boost the EC a bit to get them to that sweet spot .
keep us informed on how they do with the PH raise .... i'm interested in if it works or not .
good luck dude

 

[Ez Rider]

I started a + Size thread. Please support it

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