Hermen_eutics
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This arrogant drivel is why nra membership and sales of the scary black rifles have skyrocketed.
Hell, even cbs admitted those idiot kids marching did more to sell weapons than to push for gun control.
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If the baby is born then I consider it a life.
To answer your question I call it abortion.
St. Phatty
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I have a lot of respect for the kids that are marching. e.g. David Hogg & Emma Gonzalez.
They have a right to expect safe schools.
As far as what they're supposed to know, at age 16 or 17, after being on the receiving end of American education ... it's amazing they know anything.
As far as school safety, I would shut schools down for a week and then re-open them with safety measures comparable to courthouses. American courthouses installed metal detectors etc. in the 1980's - and they seem to be working.
As far as semi-auto's, being able to own one is an amazing freedom.
It's interesting how Cannabis & firearms freedoms interact. It seems that most states can't stand to allow people to possess firearms AND consume Cannabis. You can have the one freedom in some states, and the other freedom in other states.
They have a right to expect safe schools.
As far as what they're supposed to know, at age 16 or 17, after being on the receiving end of American education ... it's amazing they know anything.
As far as school safety, I would shut schools down for a week and then re-open them with safety measures comparable to courthouses. American courthouses installed metal detectors etc. in the 1980's - and they seem to be working.
As far as semi-auto's, being able to own one is an amazing freedom.
It's interesting how Cannabis & firearms freedoms interact. It seems that most states can't stand to allow people to possess firearms AND consume Cannabis. You can have the one freedom in some states, and the other freedom in other states.
I guess it depends on how the state wants to make its money.
Abortion is legal, as far into the pregnancy as the second trimester,
as I understand.
It's the mother's right to terminate the pregnancy, based on
current state laws, and the 14th amendment.
It's a nasty procedure toward the end of the second trimester
as the little monster is almost 2 pounds.
Murder is illegal in every state of the union, no question.
Comparing an abortion to murder is false equivalence, by law.
I respect any member's opinion, as long as it's stated as such,
wanting abortion to be illegal is your opinion, a wish. Comparing
abortion to murder is based on a timeline of conception.
When a man ejaculates outside the vagina, is that murder too, I wonder.
As has been said before, if you hate abortion, don't get one.
But to argue your opinion as equal to the law is just weak.
Abortion is legal, no matter what your belief about it is.
That is America.
as I understand.
It's the mother's right to terminate the pregnancy, based on
current state laws, and the 14th amendment.
It's a nasty procedure toward the end of the second trimester
as the little monster is almost 2 pounds.
Murder is illegal in every state of the union, no question.
Comparing an abortion to murder is false equivalence, by law.
I respect any member's opinion, as long as it's stated as such,
wanting abortion to be illegal is your opinion, a wish. Comparing
abortion to murder is based on a timeline of conception.
When a man ejaculates outside the vagina, is that murder too, I wonder.
As has been said before, if you hate abortion, don't get one.
But to argue your opinion as equal to the law is just weak.
Abortion is legal, no matter what your belief about it is.
That is America.
Nothing wrong with the NRA representing the interests of gun owners who paid them to do exactly that. But autism spectrum, legal pot use, and misdemeanor drug convictions will be easy next-up total gun and ammo ban targets no one will stand up for - the right will sponsor, the NRA will no comment. Even if the right fought it, I'm still not looking to join any lying cheating obstructionist criminally irresponsible kleptocracy reliant on hot buttons, false moralists, spin doctors, conformist patriotic and religious fervor, programming, conspiracy theories and memes, ignorance, and rabid, gerrymandering tools.
What about ol kermit gosnell? That was past 2nd trimester.
Hell, he used scissors to sever the spinal cord of the kids strong enough to survive the murder, um , I mean abortion.
Hell, he used scissors to sever the spinal cord of the kids strong enough to survive the murder, um , I mean abortion.
Green Squall
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Mostly agree with you, especially about making schools more safe so they are on par with court houses and the like. I am so sick of hearing people say that doing this would be like living in a war zone or prison. Seriously!? Do folks feel the same way going through an airport??
About the kids, I respect them and have their back, however, this David Hogg kid seems very arrogant. Here are a few comments he recently made.
“When your old-ass parent is like, ‘I don’t know how to send an iMessage,’ and you’re just like, ‘Give me the fucking phone and let me handle it.’ Sadly, that’s what we have to do with our government; our parents don’t know how to use a fucking democracy, so we have to.”
"It just makes me think what sick fuckers out there want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected. What type of shitty person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs.”
Also, whats with the organizer of the Gun March backing out of a debate with a pro 2nd Amendment student? That could have been a very constructive conversation imo.
This whole debate is smoke in mirrors. If we wanted to deliberate on how to save more lives every year, maybe we should start with the top 10 causes of death in America according to CDC:
Heart disease: 633,842
• Cancer: 595,930
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 155,041
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 146,571
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 140,323
• Alzheimer’s disease: 110,561
• Diabetes: 79,535
• Influenza and pneumonia: 57,062
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 49,959
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,193
-13000 per year by gun deaths.
Yet I don't see anybody marching against smoking cigs, sedentary lifestyle, video gaming over being active, junk food. This is clearly not about saving lives, its about disarming the people. I mean REALLY think. How much lobbying money is being spent on solving the causes of heart disease and diabetes vs gun control. That question alone should tell you what the motive is here.
Heart disease: 633,842
• Cancer: 595,930
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 155,041
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 146,571
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 140,323
• Alzheimer’s disease: 110,561
• Diabetes: 79,535
• Influenza and pneumonia: 57,062
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 49,959
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,193
-13000 per year by gun deaths.
Yet I don't see anybody marching against smoking cigs, sedentary lifestyle, video gaming over being active, junk food. This is clearly not about saving lives, its about disarming the people. I mean REALLY think. How much lobbying money is being spent on solving the causes of heart disease and diabetes vs gun control. That question alone should tell you what the motive is here.
Have you ever had your wife lay eside you and listen to your baby's heart beat with a monitor or laid your hand on her belly and felt your baby move?
If so and you can tell me that is not alive then you have never experienced it or you are just a fool.
Burn1
because the whole recent gun narrative is not about saving lives,
it is about having a population less able to stand up against the blatant corruption and rampant violations of human rights by our so called leaders and their masters.
if anyone thinks the number of innocent people shot by police. . . or the amount of taxes you pay. . . or the amount of intrusion into your life by the state will decrease, if guns are taken away . . .
they would be foolish on a level almost unimaginable.
it is about having a population less able to stand up against the blatant corruption and rampant violations of human rights by our so called leaders and their masters.
if anyone thinks the number of innocent people shot by police. . . or the amount of taxes you pay. . . or the amount of intrusion into your life by the state will decrease, if guns are taken away . . .
they would be foolish on a level almost unimaginable.
This whole guns issue will for ever be a VERY contentious topic, just the same as the abortion issue it raises much passion on both sides of the debate, and 'never the 'twain shall meet'....so after a while it gets to be like a 'groundhog day issue'.....forever coming up and getting tossed around by the worlds media, with no real solution in sight.......kinda like the Palestinian/Israeli 'peace' agreements over the past 50 years or so....
Have you ever held your wife's hand while she gives "birth" to a months old yet very unalive fetus in the bath?
Maybe I am a fool.
Maybe I am a fool.
No, we were in a hospital. We lost five. One was a set of twins.
They had died before they were delivered. But they all were alive in the woumb.
We went on to have two healthy children. We divorced two years later. We had another baby with my second wife.
Burn1
He is just a fool. Making rationalizations for something he knows is true. Very Nazi Germany like.
As far as David Hogg, he literally has footage where he stops his answer mid sentence, and asks what he is suppose to say....... They had 3000 kids at the school, and they picked 4 from the drama team. They actors of the school....... Then they keep asking what their lines are........ Media is just pure evil, using ignorant kids and telling them what to say. Then the dummies at home follow blindly. I wonder if people knew this is exactly what Hitler would have done. Grab at your heart strings with the kids, then take the guns.
As they say things like, "never again" when they don't realize "never again" was about Nazi Germany, as they follow step by step Nazi Germany's road map.
actually, nazi germany was rather strict on abortion
it was allowed if there were indications of a birth defect(as the nazis saw it)
for abortions not approved? death penalty
So who murdered our "children"?
I'm almost late to my Nazi rally.
I'm almost late to my Nazi rally.
I was referring to David Hogg...... He is talking about taking guns away. He is making the same mistakes as Germany had made. Asking to take guns away, and using the youth as an excuse to take away liberties. Strait out of Hitlers strategy book, literally.
The entire world was strict on Abortion before 1973. Not a good example to compare strict abortion laws to Nazi Germany. That would be like Nazi's drove cars, anybody else that does is a Nazi. As for taking away rights using the children, that is all Nazi, and can be used as a compartment because it's the anomaly.
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