America

[igrowone]

how does it work now in the registered states?
NY is the one i know
if you're an otherwise law abiding citizen, not much risk from what i can see
but if you do a crime, game changes
in that case it becomes fair game, you will be charged if they get the warrant for a home search
at least that's what i've seen written up in the news

 

[packerfan79]

how does it work now in the registered states?
NY is the one i know
if you're an otherwise law abiding citizen, not much risk from what i can see
but if you do a crime, game changes
in that case it becomes fair game, you will be charged if they get the warrant for a home search
at least that's what i've seen written up in the news

Ny won't even enforce assault weapons registry.The public outcry would be insane if the government starts kicking doors down taking guns. 100 million gun owners can create quite a stir. Even if 1% resist that's 1 million people. Wanna see 10 million people march on Washington, start making criminals of 1/3 of Americans. Leftist forget that the government can use those resources used to control them also.I can't imagine the chaos that would ensue.

 

[EasyGoing]

I just wanted to see if you even thought it possible to justify.

I don't believe an aborted fetus would have much to say. Rape or no.

If you obsess over unborn millions why don't you consider the millions that are hungry and cold that are actually here?

Do you even understand what drives logic leading to abortion?

Or are you swept up in demanding that it cease?

Should we start killing the hungry next?

You didn't say an aborted rape baby, you just said a rape baby. At one point, somebody has to decide to end that life. Then it's an aborted baby. Until then, it's a living human life. You sound like Hitler just so you know........I bet your on board for eugenics as well, right? I wonder if Hitler had "logic" in killing the Jews as well? I will stand by the old saying, thou shall not kill. Seems logical to me.


Here is what you said for the record. Nothing about an aborted rape baby.........You said the "child" not baby itself is undesirable. I wonder if that kid turned 20 years old, could you sit down an look them in the eye and tell them they are undesirable, and they need to die? If the answer is no, then how could you do that to a fetus! IMO, pure evil.

Most reasonable people consider raising a child of rape undesirable.

 

[igrowone]

Ny won't even enforce assault weapons registry.The public outcry would be insane if the government starts kicking doors down taking guns. 100 million gun owners can create quite a stir. Even if 1% resist that's 1 million people. Wanna see 10 million people march on Washington, start making criminals of 1/3 of Americans. Leftist forget that the government can use those resources used to control them also.I can't imagine the chaos that would ensue.

i'd call that a fair assessment, likely the law was drafted with that knowledge
what happens over the coming years will show how it plays out
there are possibly millions(?) of guns in the NY that are currently illegal if not registered
those numbers make people feel safe, they know there is no big sweep coming
but if the pool of 'assault' guns goes down for various reasons
then there's a feeling of more risk, you're becoming more of a real outlaw with real consequences
so time will tell

 

[mean mr.mustard]

The hungry die without being murdered.

Just like miscarriages.

I'm not sure Hitler demanded people consider the cold and hungry.

I do know you love telling me how Hitlerific you think I am.

 

[EasyGoing]

The hungry die without being murdered.

Just like miscarriages.

I'm not sure Hitler demanded people consider the cold and hungry.

I do know you love telling me how Hitlerific you think I am.

Yes, we live in an unperfect world. You seem troubled that hungry people die. Why no love for the unborn fetuses being killed?

One day you will die, can I kill you also for that reason?

Whenever somebody has to justify killing, they have problems. History will look back at America and it's abortion problem like we look at the Nazi's with the Jews.

Jew killed by Nazi Germany 6 million
Babies killed in the womb in America since 1970, 60,000,000

SOmebody has more kills!

 

[Wendull C.]

If push came to shove and they were determined to get your weapons (not saying i think they should) don't you think they would have more effective methods than to get into a gun fight?

If you were saying you wont give them up, they could send a drone over or something with sleeping gas or something, walk in, take the guns and you wake up later with no guns, or in jail.

I know it seems radical but it's just one reason the 2nd amendment seems pretty archaic.... of course governments will always have more options than citizens.

Our government would kill everyone of us if we resisted. Or try their damndest.

I have no illusions.

Still, you want em, come and take it!

 

[Bwanabud]

Our government would kill everyone of us if we resisted. Or try their damndest.

I have no illusions.

Still, you want em, come and take it!

Yep, I don't think that would ever happen in our lifetime...it would be a revolution like this country has never seen.

FaceBook has fucked over more people than the 2nd amendment, first selling 50 mil. peoples info...now tracking peoples smart phones, along with messing with the UK's election via Cambridge.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Okay I got it.

You think we should consider abortion murder.

So be it.

I don't.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Our government would kill everyone of us if we resisted. Or try their damndest.

I have no illusions.

Still, you want em, come and take it!

Where would their paychecks come from?

 

[igrowone]

i guess this had to happen at some point
retired justice John Paul Stevens has said - 'repeal the 2nd amendment'
let the frenzy begin

 

[Bud Green]

retired justice John Paul Stevens has said - 'repeal the 2nd amendment'
let the frenzy begin

Knee-jerk reactions such as what this retired judge proposes will do absolutely nothing to stop school shootings by disturbed young people.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Our government would kill everyone of us if we resisted. Or try their damndest.

I have no illusions.

Still, you want em, come and take it!

they can't do that, legally. our constitution forbids the use of the military against the civilian population. the National Guard is composed of...the civilian population. LOTS of current & former military would resist to the death, as would millions of normal folks. we are not going to the slaughterhouse quietly as most of the Jewish folks did in Europe when Herr Hitler decided it was time for a "final solution". the vast majority of county sheriffs in this country have already weighed in a few years back, saying they would not even TRY to participate in a gun confiscation scheme. it is like the laws against weed. the feds aint got the manpower (nor the balls) to actually DO what they threaten to...

 

[Wendull C.]

Okay I got it.

You think we should consider abortion murder.

So be it.

I don't.

What do you call killing a fetus/baby with a beating heart?

I ask to honestly understand your views, not to denegrate them or argue.

 

[Wendull C.]

they can't do that, legally. our constitution forbids the use of the military against the civilian population. the National Guard is composed of...the civilian population. LOTS of current & former military would resist to the death, as would millions of normal folks. we are not going to the slaughterhouse quietly as most of the Jewish folks did in Europe when Herr Hitler decided it was time for a "final solution". the vast majority of county sheriffs in this country have already weighed in a few years back, saying they would not even TRY to participate in a gun confiscation scheme. it is like the laws against weed. the feds aint got the manpower (nor the balls) to actually DO what they threaten to...

I said the same to my old hunting partner. He said, Remember the civil war?

But I agree, they dont have the balls, but in an all out scenario i do believe they have the man power.

 

[Hermen_eutics]

Knee-jerk reactions such as what this retired judge proposes will do absolutely nothing to stop school shootings by disturbed young people.

At least it draws attention to the laughable interpretations and flaccid 2nd amendment arguments lobbed by the willfully ignorant, meal team six types.

The nra pours millions into campaigns for pro-gun politicians, ramps up 2nd amendment rhetoric to straight-up paranoid imbecile, dogma level and convinces the intellectually and psychologically vulnerable that firearms confer murican, self determination.

The narrow greed of the arms industry has made puppets of politicians. Their constituents, deluded rubes who own more guns than books imagine that they are 2nd amendment and American history scholars.

" In North Carolina, the NRA spent $6.2 million on the incumbent Republican Sen. Richard Burr, the most it has ever invested in a down-ballot race. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)
The National Rifle Association took a historic gamble in 2016, and it paid off in a huge way.
The gun rights group placed multimillion-dollar bets on Donald Trump and six Republican Senate candidates locked in highly competitive races. It poured $50.2 million, or 96 percent of its total outside spending, into these races"

 

[Wendull C.]

Herman, where did you get my picture? Even before i ate my silicone french fries?

I want royalties...

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Ich kann die gequirlte Scheiße über den 2. Verfassungszusatz und Abtreibung nicht mehr hören!

 

[Wendull C.]

At least it draws attention to the laughable interpretations and flaccid 2nd amendment arguments lobbed by the willfully ignorant, meal team six types.
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The nra pours millions into campaigns for pro-gun politicians, ramps up 2nd amendment rhetoric to straight-up paranoid imbecile, dogma level and convinces the intellectually and psychologically vulnerable that firearms confer murican, self determination.

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The narrow greed of the arms industry has made puppets of politicians. Their constituents, deluded rubes who own more guns than books imagine that they are 2nd amendment and American history scholars.

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" In North Carolina, the NRA spent $6.2 million on the incumbent Republican Sen. Richard Burr, the most it has ever invested in a down-ballot race. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)
The National Rifle Association took a historic gamble in 2016, and it paid off in a huge way.
The gun rights group placed multimillion-dollar bets on Donald Trump and six Republican Senate candidates locked in highly competitive races. It poured $50.2 million, or 96 percent of its total outside spending, into these races"

This arrogant drivel is why nra membership and sales of the scary black rifles have skyrocketed.

Hell, even cbs admitted those idiot kids marching did more to sell weapons than to push for gun control.

 

[Bwanabud]

The nra pours millions into campaigns for pro-gun politicians, ramps up 2nd amendment rhetoric to straight-up paranoid imbecile, dogma level and convinces the intellectually and psychologically vulnerable that firearms confer murican, self determination.

The narrow greed of the arms industry has made puppets of politicians. Their constituents, deluded rubes who own more guns than books imagine that they are 2nd amendment and American history scholars.

I agree 100%, but that's not a 2nd amendment issue....that's a lobbyist political financial problem...and a big problem too. The private sector sticking their fingers into our governmental process has been going on for years, not just here but across the pond too..from the NRA to Exxon they buy our elected officials like whores on the street corner.