great way to save on mycorrhizae... nice move.
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great way to save on mycorrhizae... nice move.
Posted my labs on my outdoor thread... muchas gracias 
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=7073046#post7073046
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can you post a larger image of it here.. I can barely make it out...?
yea that Na is an issue .. Spectrum extra... teas, proper watering... AEA foliar can be a band aid until you get your microbes working and the soil unlocked.. first thing get the microbes stimulated and working on cycling nutrients.. Ive noticed that if you dont water properly all season then finally water the correct amount your plants are at a much higher risk for fungal disease. The plant is starved from the soil being locked up by drought, the plants become weak.. you water enough to properly saturate the soil, then first you get burn from the salt build up becoming mobile then shortly after fungal infections set in.
some growers incorrectly blame overwatering when it was truly underwatering that was the root cause. I know guys who underwater all season out of fear of fungal infections... They still get fungal infections but the plant doesnt succumb to fungi and still yields well by our standards. Obviously a fraction what is possible but still pulling down underwatered 8-10lbers with fungal infections isnt much motivation to water properly...
Milky your thoughts on the subject please....
Respect,
FE
some growers incorrectly blame overwatering when it was truly underwatering that was the root cause. I know guys who underwater all season out of fear of fungal infections... They still get fungal infections but the plant doesnt succumb to fungi and still yields well by our standards. Obviously a fraction what is possible but still pulling down underwatered 8-10lbers with fungal infections isnt much motivation to water properly...
Milky your thoughts on the subject please....
Respect,
FE
Is this un amended native soil? Or have you been adding something?
Obviously you need sulfer most of all...gypsum...and how do you feel about ammonium sulfate. Yay or nay? You gotta get some N also.
I wouldn't bother with micros...they are just gonna be tied up anyways...you will need to foliar.
I see spectrum extra in your future...like this fall with a crop of oil seed radish
Obviously you need sulfer most of all...gypsum...and how do you feel about ammonium sulfate. Yay or nay? You gotta get some N also.
I wouldn't bother with micros...they are just gonna be tied up anyways...you will need to foliar.
I see spectrum extra in your future...like this fall with a crop of oil seed radish
from his pics the holes look small & like his plants are def into native soil... .
I think I posted this somewhere before..
Hugh Lovel
Sulphur, The Catalyst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQdfqITv22Y
Hugh Lovel
Sulphur, The Catalyst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQdfqITv22Y
Wow guys. Above n beyond the call o duty already thx again.
I hit'em today with 1/2 strength N & P (hydrolized fish & 0-4-0 superbat) & 3Tbl of endo & endo/ecto mycobac. They liked it.
Going to bump up N & P, to get the ratio more in line with the K.
Most of these strains dont mind "hot" at all.
My holes are about 200gallons of worked & amended soil.
I'm ordering Spectrum Extra & getting that longterm process started.
Kinda stumped one the Na? My 5yr old holes are cleaner than my 2nd year holes? Anyways, im on that thx, cool stuff.
You already had me wanting to try Pepzime, from your other posts.
What was it? 5 drops a week per plant, to keep the herd happy?
What about micro5000 foliar spray from Tainio?
The place i was ordering the Spectrum from, has it too.
http://www.blazing-star.com/zencart/index.php?main_page-=index&cPath=15_13
Ill have to reread & see what I missed? on my iphone
thx again.I hit'em today with 1/2 strength N & P (hydrolized fish & 0-4-0 superbat) & 3Tbl of endo & endo/ecto mycobac. They liked it.
Going to bump up N & P, to get the ratio more in line with the K.
Most of these strains dont mind "hot" at all.
My holes are about 200gallons of worked & amended soil.
I'm ordering Spectrum Extra & getting that longterm process started.
Kinda stumped one the Na? My 5yr old holes are cleaner than my 2nd year holes? Anyways, im on that
thx, cool stuff. You already had me wanting to try Pepzime, from your other posts.
What was it? 5 drops a week per plant, to keep the herd happy?
What about micro5000 foliar spray from Tainio?
The place i was ordering the Spectrum from, has it too.
http://www.blazing-star.com/zencart/index.php?main_page-=index&cPath=15_13
Ill have to reread & see what I missed?
on my iphoneWatering is the most Important factor I've seen for large plants. I focus on getting a plant established until the entire container is filled with roots and then getting a schedule dialed in that maintains it. I'll do 40-20-10-40-20-10 or something like that. My irrigation kicks on 3 times per day. I always have people trip out like "bro aren't you afraid of root rot?" But I've never had it. Even, daily watering's have always been my ticket.
I never understood the drown your plants every 3 or so days and then once they can breathe, drown them again. I hear of a lot people doing this and its bizarre.
Over water, let the soil dry out too much to the point where roots die (usually only in smart pots I see this) Then dump water on again but now there's less roots to drink it and the cycle repeats itself. If you get root rot in a smart-pot you should probably just hang it up and do something else that's more productive with your time than growing weed.
People don't realize how much water they waste as well. See how much your pot, box, hole, bed uses (watch run-off) when you water X amount of gallons and then know that's a deep watering and adjust accordingly. When I had holes, I watered for a week and would dig down each day to see how water was being used so as to not let it pool up on top of the clay 18" underground and cause me problems.
I never understood the drown your plants every 3 or so days and then once they can breathe, drown them again. I hear of a lot people doing this and its bizarre.
Over water, let the soil dry out too much to the point where roots die (usually only in smart pots I see this) Then dump water on again but now there's less roots to drink it and the cycle repeats itself. If you get root rot in a smart-pot you should probably just hang it up and do something else that's more productive with your time than growing weed.
People don't realize how much water they waste as well. See how much your pot, box, hole, bed uses (watch run-off) when you water X amount of gallons and then know that's a deep watering and adjust accordingly. When I had holes, I watered for a week and would dig down each day to see how water was being used so as to not let it pool up on top of the clay 18" underground and cause me problems.
right.. I dont think you can drown plants in properly built soil... unless you have holes lined with clay or it somehow wont drain...
I also still follow tom hills watering advice indoors and out...
I also still follow tom hills watering advice indoors and out...
Yes. The only time I see issues is holes that are hard-packed granite or clay. The biggest plants I've ever seen were in shitty draining holes. The plants were just so damn big the moisture retention served the guy in a positive way. I always here people talking about rot like its the crazy thing just pops out of no where, when plants usually let you know somethings fucked up long before that point.
People treat growing like its a one size fits all too commonly..mostly new outdoor guys. "My friend waters 40 gallons so yeah...Ill water 40 gallons"
Like Tom said "coax, don't push"
FE I wanna see some pics of your outdoor. You should toss some up on here or make an album.
People treat growing like its a one size fits all too commonly..mostly new outdoor guys. "My friend waters 40 gallons so yeah...Ill water 40 gallons"
Like Tom said "coax, don't push"
FE I wanna see some pics of your outdoor. You should toss some up on here or make an album.
that "popping up" of root rot often follows that exact scenario I mentioned earlier...
In ground water management is a mofo there's nothing more difficult IME.
30" auger
On the Sulphur? Where I'm a little low on Ca too. Top/till dress some Azomite maybe? I need to watch that vid you posted FE
I like me some clover too
was 8-20-13, w/no issues lol
Sowing 5lbs of crimson, red, pink mix, after the drip is laid in a few days.
there's nothing more difficult IME.30" auger
On the Sulphur? Where I'm a little low on Ca too. Top/till dress some Azomite maybe? I need to watch that vid you posted FE
I like me some clover too
was 8-20-13, w/no issues lolSowing 5lbs of crimson, red, pink mix, after the drip is laid in a few days.
These things have virtually gotten no added N but a ton of minerals. What I like it that branching has been so good and node spacing is staying consistent. No evidence of actual stretching so far. Now we will see if I can keep enough energy in them to fill them out.
In ground water management is a mofo
30" auger
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On the Sulphur? Where I'm a little low on Ca too. Top/till dress some Azomite maybe? I need to watch that vid you posted FE
I like me some clover too
Sowing 5lbs of crimson, red, pink mix, after the drip is laid in a few days.
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The easiest thing to get sulfer and Ca is gypsum and it is one of the cheaper inputs also. I forget the exact number but I think Logan said you needed somewhere around 500 lbs per acre Ca. So gypsum is like 20% Ca...so 500/0.2 is like 2500 lbs gypsum per acre. Truthfully I would probably split that between CaCO3 (ag lime) and gypsum cause that is gonna be a whole lot of sulfer.
So ag lime is 40% Ca...so 250/.4 is 625 lbs per acre lime...and cut the gypsum in half.
