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Advancing Eco Agriculture, Product Science
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caterpillar710
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caterpillar710
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September stack coming right up
juice doing the trick.
Accelerate is fire in a bottle.
Next year I'm just doing AB with accelerate PHT k and some extra sea crop
Almost what i am doing now. No sea crop addition but i do add Tainio and Mo. Spec extra in the soil and micro 5000/pz 1000. Gotta keep those leaves populated with good microbes. Those are me ipm
caterpillar710
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Well of course the Tainio stuff too.
September stack coming right up
I think your biggest trick is that 80 lbs of gypsum per 3 cubic yards of mix.....
caterpillar710
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It doesn't hurt
That's a blanket statement not worth saying. Everyone is always looking to improve. Asking advice about a new products someone hasn't used does not mean they suck as a grower or are trying to copy people. Just looking to improve without reinventing the wheel. Sure some need more education than others but that's how you grow as a grower. Nothing wrong with that
caterpillar710
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It's accurate though. Very few if any growers I left out Orechron which was an oversight on my part are doing anything to test and experiment on their own if there were you wouldn't have people asking what formula BYF would mix up or how much sea stim to use or how to mix up different Rx .. It's just comical. Do a few plants spray one with 5ml one 10 one 20 1 30 1 60 and see what they all do etc , that's how you see what works not just asking hey how do I do it because guess what every one mileage may vary with it because of the irrigation water etc there's just too much to it to try to do anything but compare personal notes with this stuff ...not ask how to use it because the use at every site is different
Pillar,
Everyone has a learning curve, some folks fall off and go the wrong direction. Others want to jump ahead and copy others.
I am the same as they are. I always want to jump ahead, but jumping ahead instead of taking the right steps can be very dangerous by making the wrong jump.
Folks asking are looking to jump. If they want to be like you, they are going to ask you how you did it and what you do, dosis etc..
Your comments are completely correct about everywhere being different, soil, medium inputs and water, plus the biggest variable of all, how much of each, which as most are realizing is nearly impossible to achieve and dominate without an analysis.
Speaking of which, when you going to lift up your skirt and show us all yours????
How much cytokinin is in seastim or the kelp meal? The one I use has 400 ppms of NATURAL cytokinin, which to my knowledge is the highest on the market.
Let me find out if there is any in the US or not.
caterpillar710
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Wow that's a lot of cytokinins
I don't know about an out and out switch , side by side definitely.
Sea stim is a blend of three types of kelps selected for their various hormone and vitamin content
I don't know about an out and out switch , side by side definitely.
Sea stim is a blend of three types of kelps selected for their various hormone and vitamin content
Pillar,
Try and find out what seaweeds. There are moments in time where you do not want to promote root growth, meaning that auxins are not a good idea.
Mixes are usually someone trying to sell a product that will do everything.
That really is a shot gun approach. I hunt with a rifle and a scope.
Try and find out what seaweeds. There are moments in time where you do not want to promote root growth, meaning that auxins are not a good idea.
Mixes are usually someone trying to sell a product that will do everything.
That really is a shot gun approach. I hunt with a rifle and a scope.
neverforget4/20
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Besides coming off as a bloated gas bag it sounds as if you have more pressing cognitive deficits. You're confused if you're thinking I read the AEA thread because I GAF about your practices.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Like I said how would you expect them to know that boron is the chauffeur for calcium in to the plant" I would expect gardeners to know about this the same way that you think you do, by listening, reading and researching. Are you credited with original validated research, published papers or any recognized contribution to botany?[/FONT]
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plantingplants
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No shame in my game. I'm going to copy the shit out of you guys and if it doesn't work for me, no harm done, since I didn't know how to do it anyway 
No need to reinvent the wheel. It would be silly not to mimic the masters.
But bet, once I start really understanding what I'm doing, I'll be innovating plenty. There's nothing I love more than a good experiment, but why would I risk the crop until I Can afford it?
No need to reinvent the wheel. It would be silly not to mimic the masters. But bet, once I start really understanding what I'm doing, I'll be innovating plenty. There's nothing I love more than a good experiment, but why would I risk the crop until I Can afford it?
alkaline hydrolysis of kelp for highest auxin content
fermentation and to a lesser degree cold processed cell burst for higher cytokin (relative to alkaline hydrolysis, not higher relative to auxin content)
so pH of the product may be a decent indicator.
I believe there is always more auxin than cytokinins in any given kelp extract product, no matter the extraction process or species of kelp used.
fermentation and to a lesser degree cold processed cell burst for higher cytokin (relative to alkaline hydrolysis, not higher relative to auxin content)
so pH of the product may be a decent indicator.
I believe there is always more auxin than cytokinins in any given kelp extract product, no matter the extraction process or species of kelp used.
Avenger,
Where did you get the idea of more auxin than cytokinin in an ascophylum nodusum seaweed?
Where did you get the idea of more auxin than cytokinin in an ascophylum nodusum seaweed?
