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a ppk for a 6 plant limit

McKush

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McKush gave me an idea with his stacked net pots :tiphat:... next run, in a new bigger grow space, I'm going to veg the 6 plants going into that next run in 1 gal PPKs drilled, with a common rez, with bigger (??? 1 inch) holes, screened, gooped in place covering each hole on the outside of the bucket/pots, ala air pruning days... then when transplanting into 3.5s take the screen off, guess one could leave the screen in place.. an put the whole bucket into the 3.5... I veg under 4, 2', t5s, transplanting from veg area to tent always leaves them stressed and also must run for a week or two with no feed from the volume rez or they overflow... and just cant do it the same way twice.. <asshole..


I wouldn't keep the screen on during upplant take it off. I want my netpots to have turface to turface contact as much as possible. I *do* leave the bottom screens in the netpots so my bottom most roots have been screened permanently twice (2x). So i dont even read the discussion about screens on this thread. McNetpots screen twice by design. The real big roots go out the sides. But i do unwrap the sides. My goal is to get them into a 7 gal ppk tub and have them not stall at all. Im getting better with them but still lots room for improvement.

I did the netpot thing bc i cant veg in a 7gal btw. No room for them.
 

Ravenboy

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I wouldn't keep the screen on during upplant take it off. I want my netpots to have turface to turface contact as much as possible. I *do* leave the bottom screens in the netpots so my bottom most roots have been screened permanently twice (2x). So i dont even read the discussion about screens on this thread. McNetpots screen twice by design. The real big roots go out the sides. But i do unwrap the sides. My goal is to get them into a 7 gal ppk tub and have them not stall at all. Im getting better with them but still lots room for improvement.

I did the netpot thing bc i cant veg in a 7gal btw. No room for them.

me too, no room, i need to look into your mknetpots, that might be a way to go for me.

i jut killed a male plant in a ppk. i think the screen did nothing do slow roots getting to the tailpiece. i like the idea of a screen, using coco it might help keep coco from migrating to the tailpiece. i am running pure perlite an inch deep under the screen for better drainage.

need to find where in your threads the net pots are shown ....
 

av8or

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if i could alter my apartment, my grow room would have the ventilation to support trees like yours.

There's no ventilation whatsoever, actually. I always run sealed rooms. Keeps the environmental conditions easier to control and the smell doesn't escape. You'd have to run co2 in a sealed room though.
 

Snook

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D9, a number of times you have specified that you mix one batch of J+C at 600PPMs>whatever in your volume rez and when 'gone' put RO and remix to your liking..


why is that? my logic and procedure: control started with 20 gallons of nutes at 600 PPMs, mixed 1:64. now a week later there are 10 gallons of the same mix in the control rez, 600PPMs... if I mix another 20 gallons in another container to the same ratio (600PPMs)and add those 20 gallons to the remaining 10 in the rez already, should be 30 gallons at 600PPMs, no.?. I don't get it, why wait til empty? A couple times I wanted the PPMs to go up 100 PPMs, my starting point was 600PPMs. again, my logic: 10 gallons of nutes at 600 ppms in the control rez, mixed 1:64. I want 700. mix in a separate container, 10 gallons of ro (equal whats in the control res already and then Jacks>C @ 1:64 to 750PPMs brought rez to the 700PPM area.. ratios are the same, no? sometimes my logic isn't logical..:tiphat:
 

av8or

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Brother Kush, your nute mixing always sounds so difficult. What is the 1/64? Yes, you can always top off your res anytime whether it's empty or not. We wait till the res is empty because I don't need to fill up a container that isn't empty. If you absolutely love mixing nutes daily, you could, but I just wait till the thing is empty. Even then it might take a day for me to get to it. I mix 50 gallons @ 600 ppm (360 jacks and 240 calnit). Then ph down to 5.6. Then I dab again. Then I usually walk around the property all stoned for a half hour, staring at God's creation. But yeah, that's it man. Maybe I'm not seeing the issue??
 

Snook

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Brother Kush, your nute mixing always sounds so difficult. What is the 1/64? Yes, you can always top off your res anytime whether it's empty or not. We wait till the res is empty because I don't need to fill up a container that isn't empty. If you absolutely love mixing nutes daily, you could, but I just wait till the thing is empty. Even then it might take a day for me to get to it. I mix 50 gallons @ 600 ppm (360 jacks and 240 calnit). Then ph down to 5.6. Then I dab again. Then I usually walk around the property all stoned for a half hour, staring at God's creation. But yeah, that's it man. Maybe I'm not seeing the issue??
McK isn't the problem, snook is.. the 1:64 is ratio (360&240) of Jacks:CN. not mixing daily, mixing once a week with still 5 gallons in the control rez.. I do not find it difficult but was overthinking that I shouldnt 'top off' but run out rez being preferable.. thanks..
 

McKush

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Hey man dont lay that on me brother! Lol. Or rather dont lay my baggage on Snooks...! Lol. Ive been mixing dry for a while now not using stock solution
 
Av8 on one of ur photo, u seem to used a capped off 3" or 4" pvc as ur manifold. Can u confirm.I like building thing the easier route if permitted.
I'm having a hard time sourcing the Tom kat for my wick also cuz the hd in my area doesn't carry it n hd website won't let me order it for some reason. Guess I'm gonna have to go with that modify Carson male female setup.
 

av8or

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Yeah that manifold is probably the most physically difficult piece of equipment I've made. I don't recommend it. It's cheaper and easier and a lot more reliable to buy a small pump for each plant instead of using a manifold with one big pump.

If you are referring to the return manifold, I just run that rubber harden hose stuff from the plant to the res, no manifold necessary.

I also have a hard time locating the Tom Kap so I use a 2" flush mount floor drain on top and bottom of the tailpiece. I use a 1 3/4" hole saw and drill the grate section out of the top cap so media can enter the tailpiece.

Make sense? Need pictures?
 

McKush

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You might consider using an inexpensive sump pump. I use a US $60 1/6th hp pump that comes with a threaded 3/4" make garden hose adapter. I have to use a master control valve to limit it so i have something timable..... 15 secs to feed 4 plants on halos...


If that dont turn you on im not sure what does man
 

av8or

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D9 told me not to use my sump pump (which I used successfully for a year with no problems). He said something about it messing up my res possibly. I dunno. I still like the smaller Mag drive pumps.
 

McKush

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Check my albums for a pic. I got a couple of these and use one to flush with and the other for feeding.

Have plans to upgrade to i per site but have to factor in another good twin timmet ss well. My mini this summer has me grounded the boss says
 

McKush

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Hey Av you got your reply in while i was typing i guess. - There may be a good reason but ive not experienced anything bad to my knowledge so far . They are made for this sort of duty cycle imo coupled with the performance and price point makes it a winner for my needs
 

420ish

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i like the small 158 gph pumps.since switching to one small pump per plant my short cycle timer problems have gone away.not much current draw to mess up even the cheap timers relay
 

McKush

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I have swore off cheap timers 420ish, had too many failures to justify them and they are not precise enough for a cycle timer. So I went with Blueprint dual cycle timers BDCT-2 and the single timer (BDCT-1(?)). Relays in them are better, they time to the second which i must have since i deliver so quickly, and I have had no issues with the three diff timers i use.

FWIW i checked my pump yesterday and I"m using a Wayne 1/6hp Utility Pump so its not labeled a sump pump as I wrote previously. not sure that there is any significant difference for our application though

RUP160-3000x3000-Branded-600x600.jpg


https://www.waynepumps.com/product/rup160/

Nothing magical about this particular unit tho, its just an inexpensive pump made for short cycling which is what we do
 
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