a ppk for a 6 plant limit

[Miraculous Meds]

Nice set up bro. Let that light burn be a lesson to not do it again. I always turn the bulbs off im working around, and am starting to get used to working during the off cycle with green head lamps. In veg u can just flip on regular room lights when the lights are off of course.

 

[mufinman]

very nice garden RAM... the girls look maavelous, room nice and clean....

 

[delta9nxs]

Finally got the room up and running, thanks to the help of everyone here. Still have a few things to do before the room is operating at peak efficiency but it's nice to see some plants in there right now.

I have 10 plants going with 2400w out of a total 8600w at this moment because I need to get the mini-split working (that's a discussion for a different thread). The room will eventually hold 12 plants with the lights in a checkerboard pattern and the 4 corners running 2 at a time on a flip.

I still need to get the CO2 tanks, build a humidifier, and power veg a little before I can flip the lights.

I'm running a wave-pulse and also need to build some diy halos for better water dispersion. The plants are looking a little droopy right now because I believe I need to adjust my air gap a bit. It's sitting on the close side to 3" and I'd like to bring it closer to 4". I am feeding for 35s every 75min but I'd like opinions on what's recommended.

Initially, I tried to build my pulse reservoir out of yellow-top totes connected together with 2" PVC and uniseals but some of the connections leaked. I switched to a 70gal reservoir and a 2" diy bulkhead which seems to be doing the trick. I'd like more water capacity but I'll deal with that later.

I built a 2"pvc drain loop and 1-1/2" feed loop around the room. I used av8or's idea of plumbing the drain hose directly into the drilled 2" pvc without fittings and it worked great. Coincidentally,I did have leaks on the feed side where the hose connected to the barb fittings.

I also learned that vertical bulbs are VERY hot. I brushed against one with a REI dry fit shirt and the shirt melted to the bulb....twice.

Anyway, thanks for all the help. I'll post more pictures and start a diary once I have some more free time and everything is done.

Here's a little teaser....

lookin good!

 

[rover747]

Hi . I was wonder why is here 4 holes in top tub near tailpipe ?
Thank you

 

[RamCTD1027]

Those holes are there to break the surface tension of the water in the large bucket. I believe this helps to prevent stagnant water and the formation of a protein layer on the surface of the water

 

[rover747]

So which tubs I should go with?
3 g with 40 quart or 7 gal with 70 quart? I have large space to grow, and I want to accomplish lb per plant.

 

[av8or]

So which tubs I should go with?
3 g with 40 quart or 7 gal with 70 quart? I have large space to grow, and I want to accomplish lb per plant.

You can get a pound with either. You can get more with the 7 gal. If you have six feet diameter for each plant, why not grow two pounders? Three? You'll be fine either way with the three or seven gallon tubs if you're only growing a one pounder.

 

[delta9nxs]

So which tubs I should go with?
3 g with 40 quart or 7 gal with 70 quart? I have large space to grow, and I want to accomplish lb per plant.

howdy and welcome! as of this point in time i would go with the bigger ones.

you can grow huge plants in them.

 

[rover747]

Thank you guys !!!
I don't do vertical grow or i don't use hps anymore ,i build my own led with cree cobs( diodes ) ,they work great ,so i guess it will horizontal grow . Reason why i was debating if i should go with 3 gallon vs 7 gallon . I went i bought today already 6 sets ,7g tops ,and 70 quart bottoms ,but if you guys think it will not work with horizontal grow ,please let me know ,so i can exchange them before i start drilling .

 

[rover747]

if i go with 7gall and 70q ,what size tailpipe i should use ? 3 inch ? and how tall it should be ?
Thank you in advance ! i read bunch of information already ,but still have some questions .Delta let me know ,if i should open my own thread ,or it is ok if i ask questions here ?

 

[rover747]

i have 4 flower room , 11x46 feet each
veggie room is around 24x46 feet

 

[delta9nxs]

i have 4 flower room , 11x46 feet each
veggie room is around 24x46 feet

you can post here if you like or start a thread. man, you've got a lot of room! i'm jealous.

i guess you are going to scrog? if so your veg will be longer and you will need the larger containers. use the 3" tailpiece. we know it's the correct size for the 7 gal containers. make it at least 8" long.

 

[rover747]

Thanks! What about reservoir, 55 gallon will be enough for 6 - 7gallon/70 quart ?

 

[rover747]

no i am not planning to do scrog ,just regular horizontal grow ,as i do now with led ,i usually lolipop them ,right before flip .You think i can use ppk system for regular horizontal grow?Right now i using pro mix ,got sick and tired to haul this stuff

 

[MrAwder]

Hey d9, I posted more details in my thread, but was wondering if you have ever seen or heard of upward EC drift in PPK reservoirs. This is what I have just found in my system, my own fault for not keeping track more vigilantly - but the plants looked fine. My thought is possibly evaporation. My feed res is 1.3EC and I am reading 2.3EC in veg and 2.5EC in flower, taking readings from the "control bucket" where the pump for each system is.

 

[delta9nxs]

Thanks! What about reservoir, 55 gallon will be enough for 6 - 7gallon/70 quart ?

yes, for a wave type pulse instead of a full flood.

 

[delta9nxs]

no i am not planning to do scrog ,just regular horizontal grow ,as i do now with led ,i usually lolipop them ,right before flip .You think i can use ppk system for regular horizontal grow?Right now i using pro mix ,got sick and tired to haul this stuff

how many plants per container?

 

[delta9nxs]

Hey d9, I posted more details in my thread, but was wondering if you have ever seen or heard of upward EC drift in PPK reservoirs. This is what I have just found in my system, my own fault for not keeping track more vigilantly - but the plants looked fine. My thought is possibly evaporation. My feed res is 1.3EC and I am reading 2.3EC in veg and 2.5EC in flower, taking readings from the "control bucket" where the pump for each system is.

the 2.5 in flower sounds about right but the veg is a little high. but not too bad. typically ec will drop from your input ec in veg and stretch up until about 2-2.5 weeks in flower. at that point the ec will climb and run around 2-2.5 ec from then on.

i watch it when it gets close to 2.6 and start checking ph weekly also. i normally don't check ph on any kind of schedule. if it gets much over 2.6 and the ph gets over about 6.5 it's time for a change.

 

[rover747]

how many plants per container?

i am using 1 plant per 5 gallon bucket with promix .
I am not sure ,if this what you asking me ?
For PPK i am plan to use 1 plant per 7 gallon tub .
How big reservoir need to be ,to give me ability do flood ? 2 - 55 gallon ?

 

[delta9nxs]

i am using 1 plant per 5 gallon bucket with promix .
I am not sure ,if this what you asking me ?
For PPK i am plan to use 1 plant per 7 gallon tub .
How big reservoir need to be ,to give me ability do flood ? 2 - 55 gallon ?

i guess i'm a little confused. you mentioned lollypopping and usually that is done to very small plants about a foot high so i was thinking that you were going to put several in each container. like maybe 7 or something like that.

if you are putting one per container and not vegging at least 4 weeks the 7 gal containers are way too large. we have folks regularly producing 3 lb plants in these.

that's 3 lb's of dry, closely trimmed bud and the plants are huge. 6-8 ft in diameter.

i suggest that you not use a full flood, that you use a wave pulse instead. which is frequent small applications of solution.

if you use the wave pulse the reservoirs and pumps can be a lot smaller.

we are not seeing a big difference in growth between the two watering techniques and expense is less and engineering is much easier with the wave pulse.