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A new Guerilla growing method.?

Team Microbe

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I love the grave site plants, too funny man!

Those corn field plants look healthy as hell too, what do you think the farmer was using for nutrition? I always worry about chemicals and stuff like that, it'd be a gold mine to find an organic corn farm...

I thought I responded to your post after I read it but I must have gotten side tracked after my mind started spinning at massive speeds... your story is inspiring my friend. 30 plants a night for 10 days is BEAST mode. God damn... and I thought I did a lot of work lol
 

iTarzan

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Most years I did 20 a night for 10 nights in the corn. It isn't as super hard as one would think. The ground digs kind of easy in the cornfield. It was basically 4 hours. I wore knee pads to save my knees.

I live in an area where it is mostly Amish organic farmers or farms that used mostly manures. But there are chemical fertilized farms too. They use basic stuff like generic 10-10-10 powdered ferts.

Ghostmade I never made hash until about 2007. Trimming was a big chore when flying solo and just having your wife to help. I would cut off the big end sections of each plants branches and gave the rest away to friends to deal with.
On real big years I would leave a lot of popcorn and way bigger than popcorn buds on the ground where I harvested.

After I found out about tumbled resin I would dry them, break them up and run them through a homemade tumbler. Then I used a regular washing machine to make bubble hash.

I used to barter with weed for a lot of things I needed. Especially food and car and home repairs.

The best thing I did that made me feel great was when somebody would ask me for weed and wanted it fronted or free. I would hand them a trash bag full of untrimmed branches minus the big end buds.

For a good long time I would give my best friend and his wife most of my bags like that. Sometimes he would end up with as much or more than I had and led a good life for 10 years or so. Then they became born again christians and became unbearable non smokers.

My trimming would be like this. Every night while watching TV from about October 20 until end of December maybe into January.
 

Team Microbe

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That's one of the best problems to have - too much flower!

I bartered some flowers for chicken manure last year, I'm going to do the same this year too I think. What a good feeling...

The trimming process always seems like the biggest hurdle to jump for one man armies, I've seen guys make their own trimming machines before that were manually operated... I could only imagine how much time a nicely designed trimmer would save.
 

Team Microbe

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You sound like you're in Utah where John Kempf grew up... no need to validate that of course, but I love that there's a bunch of organic Amish farms around you. Thatd make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside I bet :dance013:

Trimming seems like the main obstacle for one man teams after a big season... I wonder if it would be easy to make a homemade trimming machine? Like something you can manually operate with a lever that spins a manifold under the catch screen... I saw BuddyMate make a few this year so I wonder how hard it would be :chin:
 

DuskrayTroubador

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Something that crossed my mind today:

Planting germinated seeds outside: what precautions can be taken water-wise since we (most likely) won't be able to visit often enough to keep them ever so gently watered constantly?

Water crystals in seedling mix?

I won't return for a week or so most likely.
 

The Revolution

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Be careful with water retention crystals. I've used to much in a pot abd perhaps a result of too much rain and the expanded crystals pushed the plant right up out of the pot. Im not really a fan of them.
Hope for rain or just plant in large pots out of direct sunlight. Also covering with the clear cups as discussed easier in the thread would help contain some moisture and slow evaporation
 
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You sound like you're in Utah where John Kempf grew up... no need to validate that of course, but I love that there's a bunch of organic Amish farms around you. Thatd make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside I bet :dance013:

Trimming seems like the main obstacle for one man teams after a big season... I wonder if it would be easy to make a homemade trimming machine? Like something you can manually operate with a lever that spins a manifold under the catch screen... I saw BuddyMate make a few this year so I wonder how hard it would be :chin:
:tiphat: I think buddymates were trimpro's?
 

ghostmade

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Also a leaf mold mulch dose wounders on water retention.but i like to baby teens when i can then burry em deep.also dose wounders
 

Team Microbe

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Something that crossed my mind today:

Planting germinated seeds outside: what precautions can be taken water-wise since we (most likely) won't be able to visit often enough to keep them ever so gently watered constantly?

Water crystals in seedling mix?

I won't return for a week or so most likely.

Water crystals would help, as they soak up excess water and then store it for times of need. Seedlings are so sensitive, it's best to baby them as much as possible so if you have to plant outdoors visit as much as you can in the first 2 weeks of their lives. After that they should be hardened off and good to go. I would build a simple green house out of 4 bamboo poles and Reemay to protect the seedlings from the harsh sun. This is what I did last year:
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I put them inside of plastic totes with holes pokes in the bottom for drainage in case it rains (I learned this one the hard way and came back to a tote half full of water). They absolutely explode under the reemay because it's breathable and lets the perfect amount of light through to mitigate light stress

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Once they're a little over a month old I'll remove them from under the reemay and plant them in their final holes. I rarely have to water the seedlings while they're in their 1/2 gal pots, unless it doesn't rain for 2 weeks.

Be careful with water retention crystals. I've used to much in a pot abd perhaps a result of too much rain and the expanded crystals pushed the plant right up out of the pot. Im not really a fan of them.
Hope for rain or just plant in large pots out of direct sunlight. Also covering with the clear cups as discussed easier in the thread would help contain some moisture and slow evaporation

:laughing: It's happened to me before too

After that first year of using them I began to pre-soak em in a 5 gallon bucket before mixing in, that seems to work a lot better. I've read that there are different kinds of crystals too, one being healthier than the other. I don't use em anymore though because I've started to add enough organic matter to my mixes where it almost retains as much water as much as the synthetic crystals do.
 

DuskrayTroubador

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Do seedlings grown from seed really need protection from the "harsh sun"?

I think that approach is applicable to seedlings started under a T5 but it doesn't make much sense to me to have to harden off seeds started outside. Seeds have been sprouting outside unprotected for millennia.

Maybe there's something I'm failing to see, but like I said I thought the only plants in need of hardening off toward the sun were transplants.
 

idiit

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in may under the clear domes they do need to be shielded, even when started outside. i started mine early (4/15) and three weeks later (5/5) the may sun was gettin hot. planting starter cups under partial shade from small tree could provide relief but the temps get hot as soon as we go into may where i'm at. mine were fine with no shade 5/5 (iirc, might have been couple days later) when i took out of domes but it was getting hot and sunny.

the whole idea here is to get them out early.
 

DuskrayTroubador

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So what you're saying is put them out under the clear plastic domes in April, and then in a couple weeks just pick up the greenhouses and they should be fine?

If I'm reading that correctly that means there is no need to shade or harden the seedlings off as they sprout, just make sure to remove the clear plastic domes come may before the plants overheat. Do I got it or am I missing skmething?
 

idiit

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ShakiraLoba, ^yes, i think you got it but you need at the very least three weeks before transplanting. you need to go in and check. you go with your intuition/experience/skill level. i'm sorry my pics are not available. would make things lots easier.


it all depends where you are at. in my environment 35 degree n 4/15 is earliest to put germinated seeds into potting mix/container. clear domes seal in ground temps. by 5/5-5/15 it gets real hot in those dome mini greenhouses even with vent holes drilled into top clear domes. the seedlings were big enough to get transplanted and i had a very high % survive.

if you plan on having seedlings under a clear dome under a hot sun then shade is necessary.

you need to overplant since you will have attrition.
 
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