A Hillbilly's memoire of organic outdoor grown canadian strains.

[goriillaunit]

I suppose it was the original version.
It was 2014 or 2015. The seeds came from Growers Choice. A Dutch seed farmer who sold several Canadian varieties in that period.

I had a strange case with the variety M.A.F. I planted several plants in the feminized version and none of them reached. I have some seeds of regular M.A.F. Someday I have to propagate them.

 

[goriillaunit]

Interesting to hear the variability between freezeland breeders. Where they all finished by mid-september?

Those from RGS were the most moldy, but they were all mostly ready by the end of September. It has, quite a few Freezeland seeds that I made this year.

 

[Hillbilly69]

I suppose it was the original version.
It was 2014 or 2015. The seeds came from Growers Choice. A Dutch seed farmer who sold several Canadian varieties in that period.

Yeah, the original MAF was something else, not sure what to expect from the MAFF, I'm worried it's too late for my neck of the woods

 

[Hillbilly69]

Those from RGS were the most moldy, but they were all mostly ready by the end of September. It has, quite a few Freezeland seeds that I made this year.

Don't like to hear the RGS freezeland was the least mold resistant, we deal with mold alot here. I'm going to cross it to see if I can knock a few weeks off the finishing time. Will cross with GG#2 and Iranian autoflower from Dr Greenthumb. Was hoping the freezeland would give some mold resistance to the IAF but doesn't sound like it will...

 

[goriillaunit]

Nie lubię słyszeć, że Freezeland RGS był najmniej odporny na pleśń, tutaj często mamy do czynienia z pleśnią. Przekroczę go, żeby zobaczyć, czy uda mi się skrócić czas o kilka tygodni. Skrzyżuje się z GG#2 i Iranian autoflower od Dr Greenthumb. Miałem nadzieję, że mroźna kraina zapewni IAF pewną odporność na pleśń, ale nie wygląda na to, żeby...

Unfortunately this was the case, judging by the description I thought it would be a very hardy variety for my humid climate. Fortunately, I have some Freezeland High Rise Seeds so it needs to be propagated. I have a cross of Guerilla Gold x Heribei from a friend in the Netherlands. Very good resistance and High quality flower.

 

[Hillbilly69]

Unfortunately this was the case, judging by the description I thought it would be a very hardy variety for my humid climate. Fortunately, I have some Freezeland High Rise Seeds so it needs to be propagated. I have a cross of Guerilla Gold x Heribei from a friend in the Netherlands. Very good resistance and High quality flower.

Well sounds like you've got some good genetics to work with. Hopefully I can find a few winners to breed with in my collection too. I've got a few GG#2, hopefully there's a good one to work with...

 

[goriillaunit]

Well sounds like you've got some good genetics to work with. Hopefully I can find a few winners to breed with in my collection too. I've got a few GG#2, hopefully there's a good one to work with...

There are some good genetics so you can work, but I don't have time for larger projects and selections. Last year I dedicated a season to planting as many regular varieties as possible. I have some interesting pictures :
UEL :

GG#2 x Heribei :

 

[goriillaunit]

Freezaeland :

N.D.B :

 

[goriillaunit]

Ierdbei :

 

[Creeperpark]

Damn, you knocked me out of my chair. Those are some nice outdoor buds. It looks like you have perfect growing weather for those plants. Thanks for sharing your work friend.

 

[Hillbilly69]

Very nice my friend! You've got it dialed in for sure, beautiful pics, thanks for sharing!
Remind me what UEL is? Buds look awesome!
Can see the GG in that cross too, I grew some early bramble ( same genetics) that looked just like that.
Which freezeland are in those pics? You grew a few different versions right?

 

[goriillaunit]

Very nice my friend! You've got it dialed in for sure, beautiful pics, thanks for sharing!
Remind me what UEL is? Buds look awesome!
Can see the GG in that cross too, I grew some early bramble ( same genetics) that looked just like that.
Which freezeland are in those pics? You grew a few different versions right?

U.E.L- ultra eraly love. You can find interesting phenotypes. I will try to do more seeds this year. The exact EB looks like the old GG. In the picture is Freezeland from RGS. Unfortunately but there was a lot of mold in the middle of the flowers. I could have cut a week earlier then probably there would have been less of it.

 

[goriillaunit]

Damn, you knocked me out of my chair. Those are some nice outdoor buds. It looks like you have perfect growing weather for those plants. Thanks for sharing your work friend.

Unfortunately, with me in autumn is a lottery with the weather. In September there are frequent frosts and a lot of rain and wet weather.

 

[Hillbilly69]

Unfortunately, with me in autumn is a lottery with the weather. In September there are frequent frosts and a lot of rain and wet weather.

Same here! And throw in the occasional fall hurican with high winds. Strain selection is very important, anything that doesn't finish by end of September your looking for trouble!

 

[goriillaunit]

Same here! And throw in the occasional fall hurican with high winds. Strain selection is very important, anything that doesn't finish by end of September your looking for trouble!

I have tested quite a few varieties. I watched the SBR EV variety for 2-3 seasons on another forum. Last year I had 3 plants, they grew very similar. They gave probably the strongest drought of all plants. Cutting is the end of September and the beginning of October. This year I have about 12 plants. I am counting on High quality flower.

 

[northstate123]

Thanks northstate, it's certainly a challenge, but I'm not as far north as you. Either way, if you don't pick the right strains that finish before end of September you're taking a big risk. Early to mid September is perfect.
And yes, the early wonder skunk was another classic early outdoor finisher!
What are your choice strains that do well at 62 lat?
Cheers!

Yes i learned that from the hard way. Back in the days i had huge plants but little bit too late here so i tried to keep them until early october but 9 times out of 10 it was lost to frost. I did some succesfull harvest around 5th of october but the summer was exceptional. Usually best time for harvest is around early to mid september. Anything later is a lottery.

Well nowadays we have more options here for the good strains. There's a lot of autoflowers but 99% are not suitable here before some local selection(and possible crossing to more mold resistant strains).

I prefer earlys and i would say here you get the best result if you take some danish early strain and do some selection. Even most of danish genetics are bit too late here. I have my outdoor mix that has genetics from some old school strains such as: early pearl, typhoon, royal dane and so on.

I'm not so active for growing nowadays so i dont even know all the latest hype. I did grow some Black berry gum x up'zz last year and this summer im gonna try big day dreams x wild super. Never heard about these? Well it's no surprise because we need to make our own here near the north pole

 

[Hillbilly69]

It's a challenge here at 46 lat can't imagine at your lat. I'm giving Iranian auto flower a try this year too, hoping to cross it with freezeland, mighty freeze, and whitey freeze to make some nice early mold resistant strains. Hoping to do the same with GG#2.
Don't do grows like I used to either, stick to what's legal in Canada and share/swap between some friends. I'll try to get some female pollen from the IAF and will run around and polinate everyones best plant

 

[northstate123]

That sounds like a good plan. Mighty freeze sounds familiar i think i have grown it in the past or some cross with mf. You are more south but your surroundings in the pics have pine trees etc thats similar here. Actually we had discussion in our local forums about canadian swamp growing and a lot of argument if it would work here or not but in the end i guess nobody really tried it.

It's strange to think that cannabis is legal in Canada( and in many other countries) but here it's still as illegal as 20 years ago and you will get consequences if you will get arrested.

Well anyways thanks for this topic and all the information! i hope you will have more to share.

 

[Hillbilly69]

That sounds like a good plan. Mighty freeze sounds familiar i think i have grown it in the past or some cross with mf. You are more south but your surroundings in the pics have pine trees etc thats similar here. Actually we had discussion in our local forums about canadian swamp growing and a lot of argument if it would work here or not but in the end i guess nobody really tried it.

It's strange to think that cannabis is legal in Canada( and in many other countries) but here it's still as illegal as 20 years ago and you will get consequences if you will get arrested.

Well anyways thanks for this topic and all the information! i hope you will have more to share.

I'm sure you can grow in swamp tubes were you are too. Knowing the difference between a swamp and a bog helps. Swamps are more grassy and usually have alders in them, you can find mineral soil in swamps. Bogs are covered in peat moss and have alot of spruce around them and are wetter, if you dig in them they are mostly moss and other organic matter. Bogs are much more acidic so you have to put like 3-5 lbs of lime on them, trample the lime into the wet moss than put you swamp tube over it. I've had good success in both, swamps have richer soil to work with but also dry out faster than bogs (I rarely had to water in bogs).
Perfect gorilla setup, mix good slow release fertilizers with your soil early in season, let the rain soak them, then plant your babies and walk away! I only checked on them once a month to make sure fence was good. And sprinkle more ferts on top if needed. Good way to set and forget!!

 

[mikeandnaomi]

Here they are harvest time, you can see they got hit by a frost, but kept going... Nice little trunk View attachment 18826002 View attachment 18826003 View attachment 18826004

Nice robust stalks. Thanks for sharing..