3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

[Dutch touch]

i agree with most except it is not a problem at all going from t 5s to 1000 watters. i have done for awhile and have seen done quite alot. i give you much props dutch on everything else but i do know you can make that switch with no problems

Hey loco Yes it can be done depending on how high the roof is, by the sounds of it this guy doesn't have much space

cool

 

[jackmayoffer]

Also is your main draw to coco its reusability?

No that's just one small part Coco is a great medium easy to flush, blows away soil in growth rates and the finished product in coco is superior in my opinion,I could go on for days. JACK

Any rock wool vs coco updates jack?

I've been under the weather last few days I will get some pics up ..

Damn good thread jack! I have to say, as others have, I appreciate all your feedback and tips. You have answered the same questions over and over and new questions.
I have read every page from the beginning. I have been growing for years and in soil, aero and now coco. Been in coco for 3 years and love it. Smashing at 2 per 1k. Gonna stay with my nute regime but i agree with your feeding schedule and ppm's.
I will be trying the tea and sea green and hopefully that will get me closer to the 3 mark. I only use great white now as far as bennies.
So just wanted to say good job and I appreciate your continuing feedback.

Thanks Bro ditch the great white for OG Bio War.

much props as always

couple questions that i know have probably been answered but i cant find and i just switched to coco from dirt and having a little trouble dialing in.

some real quick back round first. doing sensi A & B and cal mag about .5 to .7 strength and aptus. with tea once a week and sea green once a week. was doing dirt know doing coco " switched within last month"
i have quite a few lights "warehouse for dispensary" but do to plant count here i can only do about 5 plants a light and have to veg in separate room and transplant into 10 gal pots and flip in same day do to size constraints. I just put trays in every room so i can start feeding till run off at least once to 2x a week. was not able to do in dirt without over watering. would like to do every day but the plants would be over watered if i did. i am changing my veg pot size "bigger... half gallon to 2 gallon" and than what i transplant into for flip " 7 to 10 gal " and hopefully it will fix that. not big enough root structure i believe, if it takes too long to use up and gets sick. a friend feeds every day till run off with excellent success but he is able to veg like 2x the size as me and they seem to be able to handle it with no problems.
temps are 77 to 83 and 30% to 40% humidity in flower and around 80 with 45% humidity in veg. sealed room. trying to still dial in co2. i have burners but it seems hard so far to get dialed in it says my room is always around 1500 regardless how lit or often burners are on. this is a lit puzzling to me but trying to figure out. i am orginally a hydro guy but got brought onto a new job where it was all dirt and the enviroment was crazy been dialing in last year or so. getting up to about 1.5 a light with right plants and veg time and health but i need 2 plus to get to where i need to be. and really could use some advice from someone who has done on large scale and knows what they are doing. hard to find these days. i know your method is a little diff than mine but again any help would be appreciated.

1. do you use a wetting agent with tea? is there anything else you foilar feed with or add to tea?

2. you use 6.2 for coco as well? even when not using aptus?

3.your ppms seem crazy low do you know how many mil per gallon of the A and B sensi you used during flower. did you use same when using aptus and when just base and cal mag?? i go half strength to 3 quarter and still on high side it seems. also cal mag ? i use ro water and cant seem to find the sweet spot for mil per gallon. its either not enough or to much. my ppms seem hard to keep under 1000. do you cut base in half? and cal mag?

4. what ph meter do you use? i have 4 and they all range from 5.9 to 6.4 give or take no matter how many times i calibrate. I keep getting a little purple on some of my stems which i believe to be a lockout of some sort probably due to ph.

Thank you for any help and keep grinding

hope this helps any others out too,

Alot of this has been covered I do not add anything to the tea it should come out with a ph of 6.5 to 7.0 when following the tea chart I put up here.If not you want it some where around 6.5 to 7.0, I folliar with Cana Boost in flower it has been covered, In veg I use the same water I feed with and water the entire plant this is also the same as foliar feeding with light nutes its been covered,As far as PH we let it swing any where from one day 5.8 to the next watering 6.1 but with coco 6.0 is the safe spot. But I do watch my run off,I use different meters mostly Hanna Meters or Blue Lab its Been covered. As far as transplanting I would never go from a 2 gallon pot to a 7 or 10 then the same day flip to flower, With Coco you can use much smaller pots then soil I have grown huge plants with 5 gallon pots and coco.As far as ML per gallon and PPM there is no exact rate every base is different.

Hey jack, big props and respect. I'm new to the forum thing so forgive any lapse is etiquette .
I was wondering what you feelings are on the under current systems(why'd you ditch em?) and your switch to a mix of vert and horizontal bulb placement.

Under Current was alot of work for me its a great system but for yield and 5 harvest a year coco beds are the way to go.

Hey jack. Quick question about Og Biowar tea. They recommend a ph of 6.5-7.0.

Is it a big deal feeding coco a ph that high once a week? What do you do for ph? Thanks brother!

No its not a big deal I do it all the time never had an issue make sure you also foliar feed with the tea your plants will love it. Jack

Jack, do you use the 6 inch or foot tall risers for your tophat dripper?

6" risers they can be cut down if need be..JACK

Jack, I have searched all your threads and can't figure out what emitters you are using...please help a brother out

Google Pepco Octa Bubblers W/ Fan Jet Micro sprinkler JainIrragation has them on there web site.

Just received a bunch of Aptus samples, gonnna have to go back and read through this awesome thread again.....thanks for all the effort sharing this.
Peace

Nice!!

 

[vaporize13]

Hey do you ever have trouble keeping your humidity down with a sealed room with co2. I have been having trouble in mine. Maybe its cause you have such a big AC. what percentage humidity do you run your room at.

 

[Twisted pleasur]

Re: 3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

Hey do you ever have trouble keeping your humidity down with a sealed room with co2. I have been having trouble in mine. Maybe its cause you have such a big AC. what percentage humidity do you run your room at.

As Jack would say its been covered.

Veg 60%
Flower 50%

He uses one of these per 20k

http://www.drieaz.com/_DEC/DEC_Product_Base.aspx?decID=1398&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

I have a small unit I bought local a 100 pint and sense my veg and flowering enviorment are co existant Im keeping my RH at 56% and everything is doing great in both eviorments.

Hope this helps.


Jack if you dnt mind me asking
What is your sweet spot with runoff?

Tds? Ive found mine high.
Im charging my bricks with 650 ppm and watering base at 650
And Aptus with base the higest I see is like 1325 w aptus week three or something like that. And my runoff was like 2k the otherday.
So I hit them with 210 to knock it down a bit.

Ive read runoff PH is misleading have you found this to be the case?

I read taking a soil sample at the roots and mixing with distilled water and let sit for 7 min and test is more accurate.

Hope u feel better. Thanks for ur time.

T~P

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

dude jack you gotta use kosmic koma bloom booster with the aptus. shit's out of control

 

[barefootseeds]

Jack I have a few questions for you, my apologies if they have been asked before.

Have you had any problems with canna coco bringing fungus gnats into your rooms?

Do you know if the OG bio war foliar pack will harm beneficial/predator insects in the root zone or on the plant?

 

[jackmayoffer]

Hey do you ever have trouble keeping your humidity down with a sealed room with co2. I have been having trouble in mine. Maybe its cause you have such a big AC. what percentage humidity do you run your room at.

At night humidity will always spike in a sealed room but we have never had an issue..

As Jack would say its been covered.

Veg 60%
Flower 50%

He uses one of these per 20k

http://www.drieaz.com/_DEC/DEC_Product_Base.aspx?decID=1398&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

I have a small unit I bought local a 100 pint and sense my veg and flowering enviorment are co existant Im keeping my RH at 56% and everything is doing great in both eviorments.

Hope this helps.


Jack if you dnt mind me asking
What is your sweet spot with runoff?

Tds? Ive found mine high.
Im charging my bricks with 650 ppm and watering base at 650
And Aptus with base the higest I see is like 1325 w aptus week three or something like that. And my runoff was like 2k the otherday.
So I hit them with 210 to knock it down a bit.

Ive read runoff PH is misleading have you found this to be the case?

I read taking a soil sample at the roots and mixing with distilled water and let sit for 7 min and test is more accurate.

Hope u feel better. Thanks for ur time.

T~P

There is no real sweet spot we just make sure once it starts creeping up to 1500 ppm plus.. The next feed we do a 500 ppm 0.7 scale with heavy run off 30% or more.

dude jack you gotta use kosmic koma bloom booster with the aptus. shit's out of control

Never heard of it who makes it? And what's in it?

Jack I have a few questions for you, my apologies if they have been asked before.

Have you had any problems with canna coco bringing fungus gnats into your rooms?

Do you know if the OG bio war foliar pack will harm beneficial/predator insects in the root zone or on the plant?

We have seen issue's its usally from the hydro store sitting there to long, The OG bio war will not harm the good beneficial's its full of good beneficial's, We have not had fungus knats or root aphids since using OG Bio War weekly its really good stuff, I would not grow In coco or soil with out it.. JACK

 

[hulkboat]

jacck did you have problems with the smell i did mine the same way you did but i could not get that pugent smell the only way was opening them and they where original og strain? what can i do so that i can get that smell back using heavy 16 and aptus.

 

[locogrower]

thanks jack.

about the transplanting and flipping in one day. i dont really have much choice unless i go with way smaller pots, i have no room. i have transplanted and flipped on same day alot with not too bad of success but than again i am not hitting 2 plus a light.

anyone else have any thoughts on transplanting and flipping in same day?

 

[Twisted pleasur]

Re: 3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

thanks jack.

about the transplanting and flipping in one day. i dont really have much choice unless i go with way smaller pots, i have no room. i have transplanted and flipped on same day alot with not too bad of success but than again i am not hitting 2 plus a light.

anyone else have any thoughts on transplanting and flipping in same day?

Not to take over the thread.
Why same day? Plant numbers?

T~P

 

[vaporize13]

ok cool well thats exactly what happens with mine only goes up when lights are off. it goes up to 60-65% humidity when lights are off. do you think that is fine. It just worried me so I stopped doing a sealed room

 

[LEDNewbie]

ok cool well thats exactly what happens with mine only goes up when lights are off. it goes up to 60-65% humidity when lights are off. do you think that is fine. It just worried me so I stopped doing a sealed room

Did you have a dehumidifier in there?

 

[vaporize13]

yeah two 70 pint dehumidifiers and a 1 ton ac I just live close to the ocean

 

[jackmayoffer]

jacck did you have problems with the smell i did mine the same way you did but i could not get that pugent smell the only way was opening them and they where original og strain? what can i do so that i can get that smell back using heavy 16 and aptus.

Have you grown this strain before ?

thanks jack.

about the transplanting and flipping in one day. i dont really have much choice unless i go with way smaller pots, i have no room. i have transplanted and flipped on same day alot with not too bad of success but than again i am not hitting 2 plus a light.

anyone else have any thoughts on transplanting and flipping in same day?

Hitting 2 a light is way harder then most people think it takes the rite genetics and everything has to go perfect unless your growing some cash crop strain that no one will want ( Sure there are exceptions), The way we do it is with the rite strain and training you canno't do this if your vegging in another place and flipping same day in flower in a different room. I mean you could with the rite strain but not with 5 per light and no nutrien in the planet is going to get you there, Thats why we use trellis and weave the plants toppingin veg and supper cropping is very important first 3 weeks of flower is when you put in the most work.I have said it a hundred times..

ok cool well thats exactly what happens with mine only goes up when lights are off. it goes up to 60-65% humidity when lights are off. do you think that is fine. It just worried me so I stopped doing a sealed room

With big palnts I have seen the humidity at night get up to 80% plus but 60 to 65% in a sealed room is not bad at all.

yeah two 70 pint dehumidifiers and a 1 ton ac I just live close to the ocean

How many lights?

 

[vaporize13]

I have 6000 watts thanks for responding I'm gonna put it back the way it was I just un did the tubing on each side and was purging the Co2. Ill put back the sealed room

 

[vaporize13]

Im gonna do it just like you next time with the whole aptus line in coco beds, with the training in the netting. The only thing different is im gonna have air cooled hoods with the glass in them. thanks for the awesome thread really love looking at your success

 

[vaporize13]

Im gonna do it just like you next time with the whole aptus line, with canna nutrients, in coco beds, and training them in the netting. The only thing different is im gonna have air cooled hoods with the glass in them. thanks for the awesome thread really love looking at your success.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Never heard of it who makes it? And what's in it?

Green Stone Products Kosmic Koma Bloom Booster 1-46-32

Nitrogen 1.00%
Phosphorous 46.00%
Potassium 32.00%
Calcium 0.05%
Sulfur 1.00%
Boron 0.01%
Copper 0.00%
Manganese 0.15%
Molybdenum 0.000%
Zinc 0.00%

 

[nugget1827]

Hey Jack and Dutch... I figured out my problem... one of you had asked my water temp and it got me thinking... I realized my water was warm one day that i fed and adjusted my temp of my room and installed a different exhaust set up... a few days later my water pump gave out and i realized that was heating my water hotter than i expected. thus being said i must have fed them such hot water that they started to decompose? Also, i cant inbox yet due to not enough posts? So my tip to everyone is watch your water temps or at least touch your water before feed! i learned my mistake and thus is why i am still a rookie and admit it. learn from my stupid mistakes!

 

[coloradokushin]

Clone of jacks grow

Clone of jacks grow

So I am starting coco beds , heavy16,aptus line, drippers, sealed co2, caps . Running ghost og and chemdog4x alien og. I hope to have it up and running in the next 20 days. Gonna pre veg 3-4 weeks before I try the 14 day veg on the next flip.