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3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

VagPuncher

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As you can see, these plants stretched way to much.

I was letting them veg a bit longer under the assumption that the Fasilitor would stop the stretch. It didn't.

I will absolutely flip the plants at 12" next time.

I was hoping for huge cola's like Jacks, but I am getting crazy golf ball nugs all over and I DID NOT use a PGR. Perhaps due to the stretch. Hopefully the nugs grow in to one another over the next 5 weeks.


I ordered 5 more litres of Aptus nutes today. Should last me 1 run at 4 different spots.

It works out actually cheaper than buying the nutes every time. Just gotta fork out the dough all at once.

Also, I will be trying the Aptus base pellets in one of my next grow.
 

2nerdy

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Jack, did you ever finished testing/compare the Eye Dual Spectrum vs. the Super HPS.
I remember you did a thread over at the Farm about it but never posted the conclusion.
What about the Chow mix vs. straight coco? Much interest in that result.
Great show you got going and keep it rolling.
 
Holy Fuck!

Went to my garden today (beginning of week 3/21 days) and the buds are retarded. HUGE! Up and down the plant. Beautiful.

I drove all the way back home just to get my camera. I am heading back to take pictures now.

Rex, Billy and Aptus are absolutely legit.

I am implementing this formula in over 200,000 Watts.

H&G and Aptus nutrients at the extreme feeding schedule. I, however, feed 3 times a week with Aptus as opposed to Jack (he does it twice) .

Best part, I just realized that the CO2 hasn't been on for about 9 days. i can 't even imagine how it will be when it comes back on tmrw.

:woohoo:


You mean beginning of week 4? That would be day 21 right?

Who are Rex and Billy?

Also what strain is that you are running with the Aptus in those photos, and are you using the Caps tea as well?

What is your base nute?

What have you done differently aside from Aptus from previous runs compared to this one?

Just curious about your controls and variables etc.. Please share details thanks!!!
 

true grit

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Every one has there opinion but at the end of the day you have to have it all You have to know what your doing, You have to work 7 days a week you have to have the room built correct. You need the rite nutrien the rite strains and COCO and co2 has alot to do with it.. A couple of peeps will be gifted a couple of my cuts to see what they can do but the genetics wont do shit if the room isnt dialed. I have said it before you cant put a turbo charger on a shitty motor it will fail now build your motor and then slap a turbo.

Aint that the truth! We've both been preaching about environment for some time (granted yours is on the umpteenth scale of mine lol) but its all the same through and through. Get your environment right, limit your variables, find the minumums, and then dial the strains. Though I do agree coco is key for yields, I'm back in soil for a little ease and its helpful in the fact that i have more time to veg out bushes for yield. I'll be trying a few soil beds next run too and trying to give ample yield time to fill screen before flip...
btw here's your Fire Bubba in soil- good sized bush goin in and she is looking gorgeous. So are the wifi's...i'll snap some pix once they start budding up all nice....
 

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VagPuncher

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You mean beginning of week 4? That would be day 21 right?

Who are Rex and Billy?

Also what strain is that you are running with the Aptus in those photos, and are you using the Caps tea as well?

What is your base nute?

What have you done differently aside from Aptus from previous runs compared to this one?

Just curious about your controls and variables etc.. Please share details thanks!!!

Hi, sorry. Yes, beginning of week 4. Sorry.

Rex and Billy are the main Aptus guys in the USA. The sales reps.

Some local kush. They say it's OG, but who really knows these days.

No cap bennies. Using House and Garden coco A+B.

Day time temps are 81f. Night time is 73f. CO2 is now at 1200ppm.

Anything else?
 

jackmayoffer

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Aint that the truth! We've both been preaching about environment for some time (granted yours is on the umpteenth scale of mine lol) but its all the same through and through. Get your environment right, limit your variables, find the minumums, and then dial the strains. Though I do agree coco is key for yields, I'm back in soil for a little ease and its helpful in the fact that i have more time to veg out bushes for yield. I'll be trying a few soil beds next run too and trying to give ample yield time to fill screen before flip...
btw here's your Fire Bubba in soil- good sized bush goin in and she is looking gorgeous. So are the wifi's...i'll snap some pix once they start budding up all nice....

Ya bro my first spot is still soil just to help me out with ease of watering tried PureBlend did not like the results
Its crazy how different a strain will turn out in soil as opposed to coco. Got a bunch of OBS crosses going into the flower room should have some Gems. Have you ran the Wifi #3?
 

true grit

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Ya bro my first spot is still soil just to help me out with ease of watering tried PureBlend did not like the results
Its crazy how different a strain will turn out in soil as opposed to coco. Got a bunch of OBS crosses going into the flower room should have some Gems. Have you ran the Wifi #3?

Ya I've been nailing coco full organic with Bio Bizz and some additives, started using that Sea Green that Alien recommended and the plants just eat whatever I throw at em and flourish- same thing with the coco in flower- bigger and better than i've done yet thanks to Sea Green and environmental dialing. In veg for soil, i hit em with PBP once a week. Your young ladies are the first soil to flower this round and they are blowing the fuck up.

Nice on the Obs crosses!! im jealous! Legend crosses? Ap helix crosses are what im stoked on. I'm Doing a decent sized Alien gear pop right now myself- i'll keep ya posted on what i find, from what i hear its all flame...even the homies like us that have been through mad raskal gear are uber impressed by the Alien stuff.

Nope haven't run the #3 yet, got 2 fakes that my cut blew out the water and have just been running mine. yours are 2wks in and lookin stellar, def think the 37 is gonna smoke mine- great structure so far.
 
Jack,

I have several grows at the moment but nothing quite as stellar as yours, at least in quality. A single guerilla style warehouse (50kw) in coco and a few smaller test 'labs' where I try to work on dialing in my strains for the big show. I'm currently running your program to the 'T' in one of my small grows (4kw) on a new bubba hybrid. Aptus, Caps, foliar with canna boost/tea altenating, training every other day, clearing lower brush slowly over first few weeks, veg humidty/fans/co2 trick, etc. Btw this grow is a sealed room, co2 @ 1000ppm, temps around 78, B'cuzz coco in 12" pots (58 plants), trellis, hand water drain to waste, water every day at lights on.

So far everything looks great, but since it's a new strain i dont have a true comparison - I was already lined up to run this strain and just got so ansy to try your formula, I couldn't wait. I can say, however, after running fasiltor and Caps on some of my new moms and girls in veg that they are rocking it. Some of my regular strains are showing much more healthy growth patterns and are producing stronger clones. I clone a lot, so it has been a big improvement for me.

My computer messed up right now so I won't be able to post pics until I get it fixed, but I am photo-documenting daily and will be sure to post up when I get the chance. Btw your grows probably make mine look silly, but i'm more or less duplicating your program so I should be able contribute to the discussion. Man I wish I had access to your cuts, i've asked all around in my area and nobody seems to have any of them ... Dreaming ... Zzz ...

Let me know if you have any other questions. I'm just starting week 3 so nothing crazy going on yet..
 

cobcoop

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Throwin my hat in the ring on the next run. Purchased the Fasilitor product, and I will be running it in conjunction with my normal nute regimen. Killer grows you've got goin on Jack, inspirational to say the least. If you don't mind I'll post my results here with the added Aptus product. I'll be running 13, or 14 different strains so hopefully there will be interesting results.
 

hdn155

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Hey jack once again mad props on your rooms. Your an inspiration. You have some really amazing and beautiful genetics too.
I was curious if you have experience with strains more readily available to the community? I.e. blue dream, green crack.
Also was curious about your thoughts on gavita lights?
Lastly and sorry if i missed this, what kind/size of a/c do you use?
 

jackmayoffer

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Throwin my hat in the ring on the next run. Purchased the Fasilitor product, and I will be running it in conjunction with my normal nute regimen. Killer grows you've got goin on Jack, inspirational to say the least. If you don't mind I'll post my results here with the added Aptus product. I'll be running 13, or 14 different strains so hopefully there will be interesting results.
Cool Bro Ya put them up what base nute you guys using?
Hey jack once again mad props on your rooms. Your an inspiration. You have some really amazing and beautiful genetics too.
I was curious if you have experience with strains more readily available to the community? I.e. blue dream, green crack.
Also was curious about your thoughts on gavita lights?
Lastly and sorry if i missed this, what kind/size of a/c do you use?
Havent tried Gavita yet but im planning on it. Not to much experience I ran both strains once. I prefer MCFLY over Green Crack same pineapple fruity smell but 3 x the yield. And Blue Dream is good done rite. But since so many people run its its usally not done correct.
Jack

Any words you can offer on clothing/personal equipment/eyesight/skin protection/prevention within your op? Tyvek suits? Welding glasses?

You seem to perceive the details and figured you may have a concrete thoughts on this as well.

You have it figured like a franchisor. Just trying to learn more on system processes/protocol.

All the best,
Baf
Well The outside of the grow room should be just as clean as the inside. We spray our clothes hands and feet with rubbing alcohol when we enter and leave a room we also spray the bottom of our shoes with a bleach or alcohol solution. We where uv shades when working in the rooms and our moms are treated with a number of preventative sprays.And we do not use benaficiels in our mom room we soak our cuttings in physan 20 and place them in a fridge for a couple days ' We have left them soaking in a really light solution of physan 20 for over 2 weeks and they still look perfecet. Then we root them. Everything from moms to cuttings are sterile. No dead leaves no sick plants .
As you can see, these plants stretched way to much.

I was letting them veg a bit longer under the assumption that the Fasilitor would stop the stretch. It didn't.

I will absolutely flip the plants at 12" next time.

I was hoping for huge cola's like Jacks, but I am getting crazy golf ball nugs all over and I DID NOT use a PGR. Perhaps due to the stretch. Hopefully the nugs grow in to one another over the next 5 weeks.


I ordered 5 more litres of Aptus nutes today. Should last me 1 run at 4 different spots.

It works out actually cheaper than buying the nutes every time. Just gotta fork out the dough all at once.

Also, I will be trying the Aptus base pellets in one of my next grow.
YA I have found the same it dosent stop the stretch. But everything else is great. I only vegged for 7 days in 1 room last round with 15 plants under 1 k I like 20 to 25 and the results where stellar. But it works out perfecet if the plants double to tripple in size. so the first 3 weeks the plants are weaved. You will really up your yield almost double if you weave your plants the first 3 weeks of 12/12, ont let them go up go out.
 

cobcoop

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Cool Bro Ya put them up what base nute you guys using?
Rockin amended promix, age old, EJ and a couple goodies. The boys who are also using the aptus, startboost, and fasilator are using heavy16 and new millinium I believe.

Nice on the OBS gear man, should be swanky. :tiphat:
 

hdn155

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Thanks for the reply jack. I hope one day to source the mcfly, sounds like its a growers dream. until then the producers in my stable are green crack and the blue dream. I couldn't agree with you more about the bd but until something comes around that is a better middleground of production/quality, which i hope to find sooner than later.
 
Jack so when you say you 'soak cuttings in physan 20 and place them in a fridge for over 2 weeks' what do you mean? In complete darkness, in the fridge, in the cold or what? Even for two days.. what does that look like? Soaking just their bottoms in a physan solution, or a full body dip? You got me curious.

What strength do you use the Physan at? I use it to clean between cycles, but never on the plants.
 

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