3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

[Paco]

kill it jack. kill it.

 

[jackmayoffer]

And where the F$@% do you get your genetics!? Dang, show us some lover brother.. Haha.

I have spent on thousands of seeds waisting light, nutes , Growing space to find 10 keepers that are special, If every one had my genetics they would no longer be as highly saught after as they are. All it takes is one person to starts passing it out to every one they know and now its watered down with a bunch of people that dont know the strain. Or clubs/Clinics calling it something it is not. Look at Blue Dream and Green Crack.

I would only give my genetics to some one I know would grow them to there fullest and some one I know has a strain that is equal or close too.. The grower would then understand The Value and the hard work it took to find just as they would not like me to pass there stuff out I would expect the same. Not trying to be a dick but its tuff out there the market is flooded with shitty grown meds . I take alot of pride in my work and every strain I grow has been tested at over 25% And up THC. There are only two people that hold my phenos both are really small growers that have Returned the favor. There are quite a few guys that have been popping seeds of late and finding some really special phenos that's the great thing about growing. There is nothing I like more then popping seeds and finding keepers that no one else has.

kill it jack. kill it.

Big Ups Bro..

 

[hdn155]

No disrespect intended jack. 100k on sifting genetics is a luxury most cant afford. ( maybe one day). I couldnt agree with you more about it being a eat or be eaten world/industry. Big dogs eat pretty Damn well last time I checked. I'm thinking completety Hypoheticly here so forgve me if I offend anyone. Jack if you were indeed to drop of some select clones of your prized strains at a clinic for all to bastardize, Would that really effect you at all? My point is, your an amazing grower regardless of strain and.I also think lots of growers are horrible regardless of strain. That's all. I really hope this doesn't start a flame war. Not my intention. Btw jack what you have shared in this thread, in my opinion will have a much greater positive impact than any clone or seed you have.

 

[chaseaftaracksy]

i love this thread and i understand where jack is coming from regarding his phenos and his cuts...wow 100k on genetics....so amazing....only to find/keep 10 out of all that says to me how remarkable those phenos are... the info in this thread is absolutely priceless... love the pics too....

 

[bigbag]

hows about i'll toss u ten beans and guarantee, u'll find just as dank of keepers ... every female

 

[KeepItPushin]

Jack can you please answer my question about Physan 20 on clones?

 

[KeepItPushin]

Also, what do you feed your moms?

Could you share the exact recipe, and any other tips that you guys uses for moms health and vigor?

 

[InstantKarma]

Jack can you please answer my question about Physan 20 on clones?

I'm interested in what strength you use as well. I took a round of cuts today and have them submerged in a 3.5mL/Gal Physan 20 solution. It was half of the reccomended dosage on the label for dipping African Violets.

 

[KeepItPushin]

Also, I know you're in coco beds so it's a little different but could you give some info on how dry you let the coco get between waterings, or just share some general knowledge on coco moisture levels at different stages of plant life?

Im asking because there's so many competing theories out there about coco and the right watering schedule/amount. I find that right after transplant/flip that all my plants have beautiful thick fuzzy white roots busting out all over the tops and bottom of the pots, but after a few weeks in flower the white turns darker and the fuzz just isnt the same. I'm wondering if it has something to do with my watering, maybe I'm keeping the pots too wet?

Curious to hear from anyone on this topic - Do you ever have pearly white roots from start to finish in coco? Or do they always brown out to some extent?

 

[LilMissPuffIt]

Very interested in the physan20/fridge sterilization of clones and any other info about your ipm program. Love this thread btw.

 

[true grit]

I have spent on thousands of seeds waisting light, nutes , Growing space to find 10 keepers that are special, If every one had my genetics they would no longer be as highly saught after as they are. All it takes is one person to starts passing it out to every one they know and now its watered down with a bunch of people that dont know the strain. Or clubs/Clinics calling it something it is not. Look at Blue Dream and Green Crack.

I would only give my genetics to some one I know would grow them to there fullest and some one I know has a strain that is equal or close too.. The grower would then understand The Value and the hard work it took to find just as they would not like me to pass there stuff out I would expect the same. Not trying to be a dick but its tuff out there the market is flooded with shitty grown meds . I take alot of pride in my work and every strain I grow has been tested at over 25% And up THC. There are only two people that hold my phenos both are really small growers that have Returned the favor. There are quite a few guys that have been popping seeds of late and finding some really special phenos that's the great thing about growing. There is nothing I like more then popping seeds and finding keepers that no one else has.

Big Ups Bro..

FUCKIN TRUTH!!! Preach! Had to rename my stardawg- GritDawg cuz some asshat decided it was perfect trade bait. Shit even fucking breeders have done it. Wheres the ethics? But ya live/learn and figure out who you can actually share with, thats for damn sure!!!!

 

[jackmayoffer]

Jack can you please answer my question about Physan 20 on clones?

Im going to do a picture toturiol working on it now but its pretty easy.

Also, what do you feed your moms?

Could you share the exact recipe, and any other tips that you guys uses for moms health and vigor?

Moms get feed Dutch Master as base with a little cal mag when needed and dutch master zone. Foliar feed weekly As far as ppm's it depends on size of mom and if where taking cuttings any where from 500 to 800 ppm. There is no exact number the plants tell how much.

I'm interested in what strength you use as well. I took a round of cuts today and have them submerged in a 3.5mL/Gal Physan 20 solution. It was half of the reccomended dosage on the label for dipping African Violets.

Let me know how that works out thats higher then what we run . I will get all the details up in a day or two.

Also, I know you're in coco beds so it's a little different but could you give some info on how dry you let the coco get between waterings, or just share some general knowledge on coco moisture levels at different stages of plant life?

Im asking because there's so many competing theories out there about coco and the right watering schedule/amount. I find that right after transplant/flip that all my plants have beautiful thick fuzzy white roots busting out all over the tops and bottom of the pots, but after a few weeks in flower the white turns darker and the fuzz just isnt the same. I'm wondering if it has something to do with my watering, maybe I'm keeping the pots too wet?

Curious to hear from anyone on this topic - Do you ever have pearly white roots from start to finish in coco? Or do they always brown out to some extent?

No pearly white roots until the end they usally start darking once we start cannazym towards the last few weeks. We never let the coco dry out the only time we water less or every 2 to 3 days is when we first transplant we want the roots to go searching for water. After that we are watering 1 to 2 times a day.

Very interested in the physan20/fridge sterilization of clones and any other info about your ipm program. Love this thread btw.

Its coming..

FUCKIN TRUTH!!! Preach! Had to rename my stardawg- GritDawg cuz some asshat decided it was perfect trade bait. Shit even fucking breeders have done it. Wheres the ethics? But ya live/learn and figure out who you can actually share with, thats for damn sure!!!!

Ya it took 3 years and a shit ton of bunk phenos to find the ones! But im always looking just like you are..

 

[jackmayoffer]

This is a typical SCROG / Weaveing that we practice in veg and first 3 weeks of flip. One of the most important things we do.

 

[Dark Helmet]

FUCKIN TRUTH!!! Preach! Had to rename my stardawg- GritDawg cuz some asshat decided it was perfect trade bait. Shit even fucking breeders have done it. Wheres the ethics? But ya live/learn and figure out who you can actually share with, thats for damn sure!!!!

amen to that true, how many breeders have given out testers and then find that someone else is using it in there own crosses even tho the breeder hasnt even released the strain themselves yet. ethics? something yet to be seen ..

 

[NorCalGanjanetX]

Love the twistage bro, your grow is out of this world. Your hard work shows in every picture you post. Keep killing it man

 

[LilMissPuffIt]

Thanks for the update Jack! These pictures are very helpful!

 

[NorCal]

Basicly the same thing you do except week 5-7 or 8 depend on strain Moab at 5 tabelspoons per 100 gallons and HammerHead at 2.5 ml per gallon and of course cut base nutes in half.

Awesome I'm gonna start giving them the MOAB and hammerhead tonight and see how they react. My recipe actually came from alot of your feedback in some of your other threads. Hence the reason I use it. I find it minimizes the amount of products you gotta buy and the results are awesome. I think you mentioned you used to used overdrive as well while flushing but that never seemed to do much for me.

I tell people about the MOAB and how it can be used to induce flowering yet NO ONE knows what I'm talking about. Don't people read labels anymore? Either way once I started using MOAB it made a huge difference. It's got no dyes and mixes very easily for me especially in warm water. It's also another one of those very ph stable nutrients that If I add it to whatever base/additives it will always drift toward 5.9-6.

That weaving is exactly what I usually do IF my canopy permits it. I kinda tend to over veg my plants so sometimes my canopy gets crazy dense by mid flower and I just let them grow up through the trellis because I feel like if I weave with such a dense canopy I'll end up with alot of larf on the bottom.

I also run 40 sites per 4x4 so that might be why the weaving worked better for me when I was running 16-20 per 4x4

The annoting thing with the weaving is when your harvesting. you almost have to completely reweave the colas out if you want to salvage your trellis. But With monsters like yours I'd assume you just cut the trellis out and replace it everytime though.

Thanks for sharing your feedback with us Jack. I got the caps nute and root pack but still waiting on my foliar. Problem is I tend to use tap water and have been taught from an early age to always run sterilized systems as the good bacteria can go bad eventually. However Given the results your Showing I might just have to dedicate a run to using Caps stuff in my rooms.

On a side note I took about 12 trays of cuts and used RO water to prep the cube and the caps root pack as a rooting hormone. The cuts were some of the most vigorous and fastest rooting I've had in a long time. It usually takes me about 10-14 days to get a FULL tray of banging roots but this time it took 7 maybe 9 tops. Def a very happy customer so far...thanks again for answering my question Jack keep killing it

 

[NorCal]

I am experiencing the same pH stability. Seems like its better now than the first round of H&G nutes I bought when I started with hydro. Just the other day i was mixing up a batch and it just seemed to dial right into 5.8. After it runs thru the coco, it goes up a bit, but never past 6.0 or so. I was wondering if they are working in some of that AN style, "pH perfect" witchcraft...



Is MOAB (i am looking at the mad farmer product) really the same shit as shooting powder? The difference in cost is astounding.

I think it's just the h&g buffering abilities. It's some clean stuff and alot more concentrated than CANNA which costs ALOT more and isn't nearly as ph stable.

Can't say if the MOAB is the same as shooting powder but it's def alot cheaper and cleaner. I try to keep my nute regimen simple and use as little products as possible without sacrificing my quality.
I can say the h&g schedule does work really well if you use the entire line and apply the products at the right time but the MOAB/big bud/ MOAB combo blows it out of the water.

There's one other thing I've started using too and it kicks fucking ass. It's the sugaree from cutting edge. It smells like straight up grape juice/kool aid LOL you almost want to drink it when you open up that bottle. I use it at the start of week 5 or 6 and use it until harvest. The smells/taste and trichome production are like nothing Ive ever experienced. The taste of the finished stuff comes out very similar to my friends who run organic soil. Needless to say I really like this stuff. it works great In Hydro and is not too expensive. I seriously think I'm gonna start permanently implementing this into my nute schedule from now on. Its THAT awesome. HTH

 

[KeepItPushin]

"On a side note I took about 12 trays of cuts and used RO water to prep the cube and the caps root pack as a rooting hormone. The cuts were some of the most vigorous and fastest rooting I've had in a long time. It usually takes me about 10-14 days to get a FULL tray of banging roots but this time it took 7 maybe 9 tops"

Can you elaborate on exactly how you prepped the cube soak with the root pack?

Jack, what's your thoughts on using the root pack with clones?

 

[true grit]

Have to say, if grows are on point and rooms are dialed MOAB at the beginning of flower doesn't do a whole lot. I tried it on some and got same result as not trying it...just my experience though and with a dialed room you are getting budset 2nd wk anyways...