3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

[woolybear]

well didn't jack say they popped thousands of seeds to find his perfect AAA+ plants?

So yes, that would imply the genetics are mass important as they spent a shitload of effort growing plants to find the magic pheno.

so like dude said environment is on point (a for that) the genetics in question get an aaa+++. like some other dude said you provide perfect enviro and plant will express its genetics to the fullest. jack happened to put work in to find the bomb genes, like them girl scout cooky muddfukkaz

 

[jbp1385]

Yes that is exactly what im saying Jack has tested out hundred of beans to find that perfect pheno and its clear hes dialed in his environment for those particular strains he runs. Like i said its all genetics and the grower that can put it all together. You have that combo and this is what you get. Id love to get some exact cuts my rooms are alot like his as far as nutes medium and environment im pretty confident i could get some amazing results. I think Jack should hook up someone in his state that grows with around 10k watts and compare results

 

[loyalty7]

Grape stomper Og done with aptus, room is extremely hot and still getting good yields, I just started aptus in my dialed in room and things are looking amazing.

 

[KeepItPushin]

obviously genetics play a role, but you guys are making it out to seem like Jack has some super strain(s) that yields larger and faster than any others.

Yes. That's exactly what we're saying. In addition, let me correct my previous statement since you over-read. Jacks results are not ALL genetics. But the difference between his garden and yours, IS. Put some of your cuts in his room and they wouldn't perform any better. It's not the room that turns out flowers in 14 days, it's the DNA.

 

[KeepItPushin]

Nice shots loyalty. Are you running CO2 with that Aptus?

 

[astartes]

Not really. I run the same McFly cut that jack runs and my early flowering doesn't go off as quick as his. That would point to environment being important. I don't know why you can't accept that it's genetics and environment that are important. Having superior genetics means nothing without a dialed room. Whatever a grower is lacking will be the limiting factor in yields. To say one is more important that the other definitively is foolish. That will vary from grow room to grow room depending on what the limiting factor is.

When you write a sentence saying exactly "It's all genetics", how can that be 'over-read'? It's three words that each have very concise meanings.

a.

Yes. That's exactly what we're saying. In addition, let me correct my previous statement since you over-read. Jacks results are not ALL genetics. But the difference between his garden and yours, IS. Put some of your cuts in his room and they wouldn't perform any better. It's not the room that turns out flowers in 14 days, it's the DNA.

 

[loyalty7]

No co2 and that room was runnin 85-90, i did a side by side with another strain and the aptus made a noticeable difference with helping with the heat

 

[advanced396]

I will do so next round all rooms are in flower I am working on a time lapse video for all the rooms.I have talked about this before when it comes to veg time there are a few tricks that we do to make the plants explode with growth that just blow me away everytime.. If the co2 is put at 1500 ppms temps are raised no fans on and we wet down the floors the plants will concentrate on root growth, The roots will explode but the plants will stall a few days later same temps wet floors we turn down co2 levels 1000 ppm the plants will double and tripple in size in just a few days..When you have 100 plus lights in flower all the time and work 14 hrs a day 7 days a week you start to figuer out things and start dialing in the rooms you have moments where nothing happens but every once in a great while I go oh shit what just happened ..Everything we do is written down every room has a white bord with a calender we try things and go back to see what
worked and what did not.I can honestly say are rooms are fucking
dialed I never see diesease. There is never mold we are always
preventing not fighting.We do not spend the day medicated until after
work this is hard work..I am humbel and I always share what I have learned I feel it will come back if I ever need help.. Some of the best growers in nor cal that have been growing for 20 to 30 years have
spent some time with me in my rooms and have gone back home and
called me a couple days later and have completly tore down there
rooms and started over.. Im not the best grower but I think I
have figured out a few things to put us a step above some of the
others.. We work hard and are always trying new things.Its a big
science experiment that all of us have been told what is rite but that
dosent mean it is, If I had a nickel for everytime an
engineer has told me I have never seen that before that is impossible
I would have $2.75 thats alot of nickels...

Jack so your saying to wet the floors & put co2 1500, turn off fans.? Do I do this my entire Veg cycle or do I do this the first week of my 12/12 cycle what would be the leaf temp when you raise the temps?

 

[KeepItPushin]

Oh, so you recently acquired a WiFi cut from Jack and he assured you it was from the same mom as the WiFi's he's running? Right..

For the third time - never said the room wasn't a huge factor. It's 50/50. And yes, I agree with everything you're saying.

I'm just saying that even if you do have a cut of the 'WiFi' genotype, you most likely don't have the same phenotype as Jack.

 

[astartes]

Reading comprehension. Learn about it. McFly and Wifi don't look the same, do they? There are two Mcfly cuts. One, the swamp boys never released. The other jack and I both run. You repeatedly said it's all genetics, but that's ok. You were just agreeing in your own way

a.

 

[VagPuncher]

Holy Fuck!

Went to my garden today (beginning of week 3/21 days) and the buds are retarded. HUGE! Up and down the plant. Beautiful.

I drove all the way back home just to get my camera. I am heading back to take pictures now.

Rex, Billy and Aptus are absolutely legit.

I am implementing this formula in over 200,000 Watts.

H&G and Aptus nutrients at the extreme feeding schedule. I, however, feed 3 times a week with Aptus as opposed to Jack (he does it twice) .

Best part, I just realized that the CO2 hasn't been on for about 9 days. i can 't even imagine how it will be when it comes back on tmrw.

 

[KeepItPushin]

Sorry, don't know the 'swamp boys' ... I'm curious now, so Jack shared his cut with you, or the two of you work together? Would love to see some shots from your room if you are running the exact same cut and not getting it to turn like Jack. Could be a great addition to this thread as a comparison. Not trying to challenge you, I think you just took my dry humor the wrong way

Its all good..

Jack, would love to hear you explain more about the wet floors and fans etc. I tired it myself in my current run but didn't really notice any significant difference, at least not how you describe. I did have much more gnarly white roots, but it's also a new strain, so I can't chalk it up to the technique.

 

[astartes]

McFly is a clone-only cut. There are actually two cuts, but only one was ever passed out by the good folks in the southern swamp area. Plenty of people have McFly. I don't know Jack from Adam to be honest.

I get the cut to turn out like Jack does, I simply don't see the flowers stack as quickly in early flower. I'm not running CO2, anywhere near the wattage Jack does, nor Aptus nutes. That being said, the best I've hit was 1.35 under half of a 1K. The other side was was NLSD that didn't yield as well. Still haven't done a full light of it yet.

a.

 

[jackmayoffer]

Not really. I run the same McFly cut that jack runs and my early flowering doesn't go off as quick as his. That would point to environment being important. I don't know why you can't accept that it's genetics and environment that are important. Having superior genetics means nothing without a dialed room. Whatever a grower is lacking will be the limiting factor in yields. To say one is more important that the other definitively is foolish. That will vary from grow room to grow room depending on what the limiting factor is.

When you write a sentence saying exactly "It's all genetics", how can that be 'over-read'? It's three words that each have very concise meanings.

a.

Every one has there opinion but at the end of the day you have to have it all You have to know what your doing, You have to work 7 days a week you have to have the room built correct. You need the rite nutrien the rite strains and COCO and co2 has alot to do with it. I run the same exact strains in the same exact room except one room is Soil and we never get the same results not even close we average 1.25 to 1.5 in the same room with coco we can hit 2.0 to 2.5 per 1k. With MCFLY we just hit 2.5 per 1 k in coco and in soil 1.25 same everything except soil vs coco. I have 2 strains that a bunch of growers runs White and Mcfly the rest where all found by me popping lots of seeds. A couple of peeps will be gifted a couple of my cuts to see what they can do but the genetics wont do shit if the room isnt dialed. I have said it before you cant put a turbo charger on a shitty motor it will fail now build your motor and then slap a turbo.

Jack so your saying to wet the floors & put co2 1500, turn off fans.? Do I do this my entire Veg cycle or do I do this the first week of my 12/12 cycle what would be the leaf temp when you raise the temps?

This is not going to work in a small grow this is for 20 k plus rooms where there is so much light during lights on the humidity is low.

Holy Fuck!

Went to my garden today (beginning of week 3/21 days) and the buds are retarded. HUGE! Up and down the plant. Beautiful.

I drove all the way back home just to get my camera. I am heading back to take pictures now.

Rex, Billy and Aptus are absolutely legit.

I am implementing this formula in over 200,000 Watts.

H&G and Aptus nutrients at the extreme feeding schedule. I, however, feed 3 times a week with Aptus as opposed to Jack (he does it twice) .

Best part, I just realized that the CO2 hasn't been on for about 9 days. i can 't even imagine how it will be when it comes back on tmrw.

Awesome Bro Im running House and Garden in one of the big rooms this run with Aptus and one with just Moab we shall see..

 

[Builtaforest]

Jack

Any words you can offer on clothing/personal equipment/eyesight/skin protection/prevention within your op? Tyvek suits? Welding glasses?

You seem to perceive the details and figured you may have a concrete thoughts on this as well.

You have it figured like a franchisor. Just trying to learn more on system processes/protocol.

All the best,
Baf

 

[advanced396]

Thanks my room is 20k

 

[draph]

Cap i tried to pm you but it says your pm box is full?

I tried to PM you to0. It wouldn't even send it out. So I am allowed one message but I cant send one, only receive one. hahahha!

one message in my outbox. thats all im allowed. I'll delete my draft to you and free things up. LOL.

 

[KeepItPushin]

Would also like to know leaf temps during high co2/humidity veg trick. Do you have one of those laser temp readers? Anyone?

 

[KeepItPushin]

I tried to PM you to0. It wouldn't even send it out. So I am allowed one message but I cant send one, only receive one. hahahha!

one message in my outbox. thats all im allowed. I'll delete my draft to you and free things up. LOL.

You have to delete the message in your outbox. Check your PM menu again and youll see an option to do it.

 

[VagPuncher]

Pics as promised.

Day 21.