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2024 US Presidential Election

Who will become next President in U.S. what do you think?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 42 60.9%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 27 39.1%
  • Total voters
    69
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armedoldhippy said:
why in God's name would anyone want to grab the tarbaby? talk about being set up for failure and humiliation on a daily basis...:noway:
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literal conservative choices, not in a political sense since Trump isn't really a conservative
just going with what worked last, it's actually not a bad strategy(usually)
it's simple and there's an existing message, it's a house that's built
 
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igrowone said:
just going with what worked last, it's actually not a bad strategy(usually)
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trick plays never work twice in a row, and The Chump is more of a one-trick pony than i have ever laid eyes on before. he fooled enough voters when running against Clinton to win, against the most hated candidate running the worst campaign seen in my lifetime. that won't happen again. i don't think he could win against "to be named later" . yeah, the same hard-core fascist/racist fools will vote for him again, but he is toast to the rest of the voters IMHO. policy be damned, nobody likes a criminal.
 
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GenghisKush said:
Scott Graham Hall (bail bondsman)

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OOhhhh....

I didn't know he had plead guilty.

In other news, the GOP is still a clown show with Emmer only receiving 117 votes for and 97 against. In a secret GOP only ballot mind you. :ROFLMAO:

And it's over before it begins...

www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Officially Tries to Kill Tom Emmer's Speaker Bid

Just hours after Emmer won the speaker nomination, Trump posted to Truth Social and may have ended his chances immediately.
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I have many wonderful friends wanting to be Speaker of the House, and some are truly great Warriors,” Trump said. “RINO Tom Emmer, who I do not know well, is not one of them. He never respected the Power of a Trump Endorsement, or the breadth and scope of MAGA-MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! He fought me all the way, and actually spent more time defending lIhan Omar, than he did me- -He is totally out-of-touch with Republican Voters.”

Trump continued that he believes Emmer has “now learned his lesson, because he is saying that he is Pro-Trump all the way, but who can ever be sure?”


“Has he only changed because that's what it takes to win? The Republican Party cannot take that chance, because that's not where the America First Voters are. Voting for a Globalist RINO like Tom Emmer would be a tragic mistake!” Trump wrote Tuesday, in between courtroom breaks for the New York Attorney General's bank fraud trial that he's attending.
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Joe Biden Bought Beach House for $2.75M Cash Just after Hunter Demanded Millions from Chinese Oligarch​

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Joe Biden Bought Beach House for $2.75M Cash Just after Hunter Demanded Millions from Chinese Oligarch - Slay News

Democrat President Joe Biden paid $2.75 million in cash for his luxury Delaware beach house within weeks of his son Hunter issuing a treat to a Chinese oligarch in which he demanded millions.
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Bidenomics is a Bust: Leading Economic Indicators Fall For 18th Straight Month​

The leading economic index sank again in September, the 18th consecutive month of declines for the gauge thought to predict future economic conditions.
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Biden Plans To Buy 6 Million Barrels Of Oil For The SPR At $79​

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by Tyler Durden
Friday, Oct 20, 2023 - 06:50 AM
Suffering months of humiliating jeers about the dre state of the US SPR, which has been half-drained at a time when geopolitical risk is the highest it has been in years, the US Department of Energy announced that it wants to buy 6 million barrels of crude oil for the strategic petroleum reserve as part of efforts to refill it after a massive release last year of close to 200 million barrels.

The release was the result of a political attempt by the White House to bring retail fuel prices down ahead of the 2022 Midterm elections following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which at the time some warned would empty the strategic petroleum reserve at a time when it was better full. The outcome was partially successful as Democrats retained the Senate, the problem is that the SPR remains the emptiest it has been in 40 years.
This year, the Department of Energy has repeatedly said it wanted to start refilling the SPR but the price never seemed right, after the department set itself a range of between $68 and $72 per barrel for the refill push.
Then, idiotically, when oil prices did decline to the low $70s earlier this year (amid expectations that Biden will finally tip the US into a recession) the cartoonish amateurs at the Department of Energy headed by the incompetently cackling Jennifer Granholm...


... bought only a few million barrels for the SPR, which remains at a 40-year low. The total amount bought so far is 4.8 million barrels, which cost the DoE an average of below $73 per barrel, according to Reuters.

And now, the DoE is saying that it was ready to buy oil for the reserve at a price of $79 per barrel or less. The timeframe for the potential purchases is December and January. Which of course means there will be zero refilling since oil will not drop that low and instead the DOE will be forced to keep chasing higher, pushing the price of oil in the process.
West Texas Intermediate is currently trading at $90 per barrel. Whether it could decline to $79 over the next two months is anyone’s guess but given that OPEC, and more specifically Saudi Arabia, remains determined to keep a lid on production, chances for that are slim, even with higher Venezuelan oil production now that Washington lifted the oil sanctions for six months.
News of the plan to refill the SPR has helped to push oil prices higher, which now have a new price floor one which eliminates the chance of WTI falling anywhere close to $79 anytime soon, absent a massive economic recession of course, yet since a recession will spark immediate QE and even more fiscal stimulus, any oil price drop will be temporary at best.
Meanwhile, instead of encouraging US oil output to refill the SPR faster and at a much lower cost to the US, the idiots who control Biden's teleprompter would rather cut deals with dictators such as Maduro instead of empowering and funding US shale/E&Ps to produce much more at a time when the world is the closest it has been to WW3 since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Biden Plans To Buy 6 Million Barrels Of Oil For The SPR At $79 | ZeroHedge

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Black Lives Matter Leader Stands Behind J6 Prisoners, Endorses Trump​

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‘This is what the government does to those who express independent thought and want to stand up for what they believe,’ said Mark Fisher.
The founder of a Black Lives Matter (BLM) organization is voicing his support of Jan. 6 prisoners and not shying away from endorsing former President Donald Trump as “the best candidate we have.”
Mark Fisher—who stepped down from his leadership position at BLM Rhode Island, which he co-founded, and is now founder and executive director of the Maryland-based BLM Incorporated—has stood in solidarity with leaders of the Proud Boys and led vigils of prayer for the people he believes to be political prisoners.
“They’re lambs led to slaughter to be sacrificed as an example for all who might want to dissent in the future,” Mr. Fisher told The Epoch Times. “This is what the government does to those who express independent thought and want to stand up for what they believe.”
What he sees in the vindictive treatment of the J6 prisoners are similarities to how black people have been treated, he said, and his aspiration in establishing that connection is to find common ground.
“One of the things I highlight when I speak to them is that they have a whole new understanding now of what black people have been going through with the over-policing, the police brutality, and the unfair treatment in the two-tiered justice system and how oppressive and overreaching it is,” Mr. Fisher said.

Media’s Distortion of Truth​

Just as legacy media has distorted what happened at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, by accusing Trump supporters of a violent insurrection, Mr. Fisher said BLM has been blamed for the 2020 summer riots, though there were outside parties like the far-left extremist group Antifa that were a source of chaos.
“Antifa had a lot to do with the riots of 2020, and there were a lot of anarchist groups who just wanted to take advantage of the moment and were out for destruction,” he said.
Black Lives Matter had been around years before George Floyd died while in police custody in Minneapolis in 2020, Mr. Fisher said. Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin was convicted of murder in the case.
“That’s when it became a political movement and the national and global center of attention,” Mr. Fisher said. “The media made us its darling, which it loves to do, and it was able to make us its scapegoat when things started to go south.”
Mr. Fisher, a Christian who has a degree in theology with a background in being a pastor, expressed contempt for both the government and the media.
“I don’t trust the federal or state government as far as I can throw them, and the media is trying to stop us from uniting,” he said. “It’s the same media that caused the division between all of these marginalized groups in the first place to keep us at each other’s throats.”

What BLM Means​

According to Mr. Fisher, people have misunderstood the original intent of BLM’s mission.
The name of the organization itself has led to anger.
“It’s not black lives are better,” he said. “It’s not black lives are greater or black lives matter more. It’s just simply black lives matter. That statement itself is so loaded that people have processed it differently through their own lens and experience.”
To not see the significance of the statement from the perspective of a black person is to fail to see it through a lens of compassion, he said.
Mr. Fisher denied the framing of BLM as a Marxist organization.
“Black people want the same thing that white people want,” he said. “We want life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We want to make money and have a family. Do those sound like Marxist principles? To me, those are fundamentally American, entrepreneurial, and capitalist principles. We want to acquire wealth and leave something—as the Bible teaches us—for our children.”
Mr. Fisher’s current organization, BLM Incorporated, focuses on entrepreneurship education and financial empowerment for black Americans.
The website also states that the organization is not aligned with any political party or position, “unless those politics are for the dismantling of a racist system and the eradication of the white supremacist ideology and state sanctioned police brutality against and killings of Blacks.”

‘A Racist Party’​

Mr. Fisher didn’t speak highly of the Democratic Party.
“It’s a racist party with racist policies that negatively impact black families,” he said. “Black people are stuck on that plantation, mentally. They’re slaves in their own minds because they refuse to see the big picture and how we’ve been used and abused by the Democratic Party with policies that are absolutely antithetical to what black people yearn for in this country, which is life, liberty, freedom, the pursuit of happiness, and a family to raise.”
Mr. Fisher equally distrusts the Republican Party, which he said is its own corrupt institution.
“This is why Donald Trump is so popular,” he said. “He’s anti-institution. He can’t be bought. He can’t be sold. He’s going to give it to you straight and keep it real and those who relate to that love that about him. If you look at both parties and the potential candidates—including the current president and vice president—I think he’s the best candidate we have. It’s a no-brainer.”
Though framed by legacy media outlets as a racist and xenophobe, Mr. Fisher said President Trump has helped the black community “100 percent.”
“If you look at his policies, what he’s done for our community has gone under the radar, and he doesn’t brag about it,” he said. “He doesn’t try to convince anyone he’s not a racist, just like I’m not going to try to convince you that I’m not a racist. What you see is what you get, and when you know me, you’ll know my heart.”
However, President Joe Biden has made frequent racist statements in his time as a politician in the limelight, Mr. Fisher said.
He recalled President Biden’s statements on a radio show when running for office in 2020, when he stated, “Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
“How racist is that?” Mr. Fisher asked. “That’s the Democratic plantation telling black people they’re too stupid to think independently, too stupid to think critically, and that we’ve got to march down to the polls and do what we’re told to do.”

Black Support for Trump​

Mr. Fisher doesn’t stand alone in the black community in wanting to see President Trump return to office in 2024.
“More and more black people every day are supporting him,” he said. “Look at the rappers. The latest one who just went turncoat on the Democrats was Waka Flocka Flame, who announced on Twitter that he’s voting for Trump.”
On Oct. 16, the rapper posted a photo of himself and President Trump, and another post stated simply, “TRUMP2024.”
“Look at how a black neighborhood in Fulton County cheered Trump on the way to the county jail,” Mr. Fisher added.
They know that the government is harassing him because they’ve seen it in their own lives, he said, and they recognize the persecution.
Mr. Fisher said he isn’t afraid of taking flak from others in the black community because of his support of President Trump.
“I’m going to get the same pushback I expect for this that I got when I started the organization, not only from the white community but from my own community,” he said. “It’s just something that goes with the territory when you’re a leader. You must be bold. You can’t be afraid to be ridiculed.”
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Many people in the black community are secretly behind President Trump and want to see him back in office, Mr. Fisher said.
“They won’t say it in public in fear of backlash from the community because they have reputations, businesses, and relationships they don’t want to put in jeopardy, but they’ll speak with their vote,” he said.

What ‘Woke’ Means​

For Mr. Fisher, the term “woke” once stood for compassion, but that connotation is now lost.
He pointed to President Trump’s criticism of the word.
“I don’t like the term woke because I hear ‘woke woke woke,’” President Trump told an audience at the Westside Conservative Club in Iowa in June 2023. “It’s just a term they use, half the people can’t even define it, they don’t know what it is.”
People have radically different conceptions of woke, Mr. Fisher said, but to use it in condemnation is harmful to race relations.
“The word’s umbrella is so big that nobody knows what it means now,” he said. “It’s become burnt out.”
As the media continues to manufacture division, Mr. Fisher said it’s important that all people reclaim their narratives and be open to each other’s views, even if they disagree.
Small acts, like listening to others instead of the media, will go a long way.
“It’s not going to happen by itself,” he said. “It’s going to take deliberate, thoughtful work. We must exercise that power in taking control of our own lives so that we can shape our future. We all have that power.”
 
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If I were a person that really wanted trump to not win I’d seriously support replacing Biden.


Isn’t it embarrassing to have a washed up game show host with 500 felonies running neck and neck with your candidate? I wouldn’t vote for either geriatric candidate myself, but I’m blown away at the willingness to stick with biden.
 
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