2024 State of the genepool discussion.

[mudballs]

You didn't know what a swale was, until someone told you...why is his post ridiculous?

 

[kro-magnon]

Because you can't grow all the plants you want if they can't support the climate you live in, I couldn't grow grow unworked thai seeds outdoor where I live, they couldn't go to the finish line, they'd need a few years to select the one able to thrive in a different climate that their native one.
And what not knowing the name of swales has anything to do in this matter? i don't understand the corelation. I knew those stuff under the name half moon ,that's how they're called in the video I've seen.

 

[mudballs]

It means you may not be a person with the background to judge his statements correctly...you know what epigenetics is? ...I'm not being a dick...yet...real question

 

[eastcoastjoe]

It means you may not be a person with the background to judge his statements correctly...you know what epigenetics is? ...I'm not being a dick...yet...real question

Tell me what a swale has to do with the state of the genepool

 

[mudballs]

"Your clone grown in the same garden along the year is not changing of environment and more important a clone has already his genes set"
I'm gonna let you hear from me...reveggeta is right, you are wrong...plants can change rapidly...in a few generations.

 

[kro-magnon]

"Your clone grown in the same garden along the year is not changing of environment and more important a clone has already his genes set"
I'm gonna let you hear from me...reveggeta is right, you are wrong...plants can change rapidly...in a few generations.

You still need those few generations to have them growing in a new environment and i wanted to make a difference between a clone and a seed, maybe it was not said correctly but you can't compare how a clone react compared to a seeds germed in different conditions.

 

[mudballs]

"Same thing when you harvest the same clone outdoors in spring, summer, autumn or winter. Completely different environmental conditions. Plant morphology will change, resin coverage will change, calyx to leaf ratio will change. Effect will stay the same."
no, a single seasonal epigentic transformation will pass immediately to the next gen...yes?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

"Same thing when you harvest the same clone outdoors in spring, summer, autumn or winter. Completely different environmental conditions. Plant morphology will change, resin coverage will change, calyx to leaf ratio will change. Effect will stay the same."
no, a single seasonal epigentic transformation will pass immediately to the next gen...yes?

Next your gonna tell us genetic drift in clones is real yeah ?

 

[kro-magnon]

"Same thing when you harvest the same clone outdoors in spring, summer, autumn or winter. Completely different environmental conditions. Plant morphology will change, resin coverage will change, calyx to leaf ratio will change. Effect will stay the same."
no, a single seasonal epigentic transformation will pass immediately to the next gen...yes?

You're going in a different direction than the original, he said acclimation is bullshit, I don't agree with this.

 

[mudballs]

Because you want to learn kro-mag i try to be softer...you have some more to learn before you start calling peoples posts ridiculous or "biggest absurdity I've seen in long time."
for a reason i do that, i need you to look at it from a different perspective, he said it's bullshit that it takes years..one plant changes, then it has to propagate through all the other fems until finally all plants in population now carry transformation...yes?

 

[Donald Mallard]

Next your gonna tell us genetic drift in clones is real yeah ?

yep and should be able to produce some 10 week flowering thai by now after , what 40 years of acclimating ..

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Because you want to learn kro-mag i try to be softer...you have some more to learn before you start calling peoples posts ridiculous or "biggest absurdity I've seen in long time."
for a reason i do that, i need you to look at it from a different perspective, he said it's bullshit that it takes years..one plant changes, then it has to propagate through all the other fems until finally all plants in population now carry transformation...yes?

First they were talking about a clone , singular cultivar. Now your talking about seed populations. Which one is it ? Your taking this way out of context

 

[mudballs]

Acclimating isn't cultivation...if i pick the fastest male again and again and again...i will speed up that thai...natural selection doesn't do that

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Genotype x Environment = Phenotyoe

Environment isn’t changing base DNA of a clone @mudballs

 

[mudballs]

Been waiting to burn ur ass donald...

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Acclimating isn't cultivation...if i pick the fastest male again and again and again...i will speed up that thai...natural selection doesn't do that

And that has nothing to do with what he was talking about. Your talking about selecting different plants. He was talking about genetic changes in a single cultivar. You are a troll of epic proportions

 

[kro-magnon]

Acclimating isn't cultivation...if i pick the fastest male again and again and again...i will speed up that thai...natural selection doesn't do that

Because you want to learn kro-mag i try to be softer...you have some more to learn before you start calling peoples posts ridiculous or "biggest absurdity I've seen in long time."
for a reason i do that, i need you to look at it from a different perspective, he said it's bullshit that it takes years..one plant changes, then it has to propagate through all the other fems until finally all plants in population now carry transformation...yes?

You can't predict how long it will take for this plant to appear, it can take years. specially if you grow outdoor with one repro by year. if it's faster good for you but saying you can have have the same results without acclimation is absurd. I won't get high with moldy buds from a landrace just imported in my garden;

 

[mudballs]

I don't think that's being said by anyone and you just want to see that in his posts...try again for me and try to read his post with what I've covered in mind

 

[Donald Mallard]

Been waiting to burn ur ass donald...

wow really , should i be concerned ??

as far as i know ive barely ever interacted with you ....

maybe i can take the focus off kro magnum for you i guess ,
since u seem keen to pick on him , despite it being quite obvious he is not a native english speaker ,
so somethings may be lost in translation ,
one has to take these things into account on these international forums ,

however id be agreeing with that he has said in the last few pages over what you have been ..

 

[eastcoastjoe]

I don't think that's being said by anyone and you just want to see that in his posts...try again for me and try to read his post with what I've covered in mind

Not sure if your talking to me or not because you won’t tag me but have no problem saying my name in slick comments. But here we go, let’s start over.

Let me be doubtful, you can't take a plant from her native climate and expect the same results in a different one even with years of acclimation.
it is the basic of biology:
-phenotype= genetic + climate, changing the climate change the phenotype expression.

That’s the original comment and it’s a fact.

Genotype x Environment = Phenotyoe