150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

[BonsaiGrower]

Suga Oregon is lookin good
Bulenath .. Aloha Have fun with the harvest!

Sup y'all? Peace and Bright white light to the 150 watters

Here's one of my LUI Bonsai Moms





BG

 

[invision]

well they showed whos boss and i had to make some changes, damn bastards growing tall on me after all that LST loving i gave them

well here they are after there 1st feeding of 1/4 10-50-10

 

[sugabear_II]

Do you feel the OB1 Indica pheno has surpased its Oregon90 elder in potency?

they're different - oregon 90 is more couchy but still euphoric - burmese is dreamy and euphoric. ob1 indie pheno combines the two highs and in my opinion its better all around. fwiw the picture of the ob1 is with flash which makes the trichs stand out more - the o90 shot is without flash - they both have equal trich coverage . the o90 is made for hash making as the trichs stand tall and are easily knocked off without rupture. what I mean i after handling the o90 your fingers feel gritty - rubbing them together the grit becomes hash. Whereas the burmese and ob1 are sticky and leave your fingers sticky. Don't know if this is because sativa glands are smaller and less easily knocked off or what, but it is interesting to me.

looking at the o90 full plant pics again the leaves really convince me of the afghani heritage .

anyways invision you gotta train those puppies to keep things under control... but looks good

bg nice milf...

so I am going to announce here first that I have gotten rid of the big 400 watt cabinet. It just was too much for me. A good friend will be picking it up this weekend. My last two plants were trained to fit into mt 150 cab and are now finishing in there......

so that's it - my brief forray into larger wattages is now over and I'm back to my 150 watt roots, and don't it feel so good

suga

 

[BonsaiGrower]

Thanks Suga!! And duely noted that you have gone back to just the 150. That's interesting on a few levels. 1 you are happy and can do all you need with a 150. and 2 the 400 was too much and all that's really needed is a 150....

Did I repeat myself there? ...lol Preaise to the 150watters ... I'm always amazed at what you guys can do with them and that's the reason I have one now....who knows Suga...maybe I'll get rid of my 400 someday too once I get used to the 150.

MY 150 scrog is switching to 12/12 today for my first ever 150W flower Cycle. *crosses fingers

Peace everyone
BG

 

[sugabear_II]

well bonsaigrower I ran the 400 for 4 months and harvested the following;

OB1 indie pheno
Trainwreck
OB1 sativa pheno
Burmese pure
Femaleseeds grapefruit
Blue Thunder
Trainwreck
Burmese pure*

*the last burmese pure will go another week in the 150 cab.

also I've got a femaleseeds ICE and bluethunder clone that are midway through flower that should finish by the end of the month.

so let's just say at the end of this month when everything is finished my stash will be overfilled, especially considering that it was already full from from previous 150 watt grows....

which is good as I'll probably be taking a break for a while in may... I estimate it will take me two - three years to smoke what I have grown so far.

-suga

 

[BonsaiGrower]

LMAO Joe ... nice brotha! ... and a testament to the home gardener. So will you just keep the milfs in stasis? Mow the lawn for 3 years? Some of the strains I've been watching you flower would be a shame to lose.

Peace
BG

 

[sugabear_II]

bg, I think you mean me well the milfs are going with the 400 cab so I'll still have access to the cuts if I want and I think they may spread a bit further.

This trainwreck I grow

is soo fat and sticky and finishes under 8 weeks with excellent yield. I think it my find it's way into a commercial setup next to ma superskunk.... my budy gets the ma ss for sale and everything I have is as good if not better head to head

I also have taken the time create f2s of my favorite strain the burmese. I also have seeds of oregon90 x burmese (OB1) as well as OB1 indie pheno x burmese and the above trainwreck x burmese ( these last were accidental as the trainwreck was next to the oregon90 when it was pollinated with the burmese - I got 14 total - i'd part with half if anyone is interested... ) plus a bunch of other stuff I bought and seeds people have given me.

-suga

 

[BonsaiGrower]

Doh!! .....thanks Suga...I'm friggin baked this mornin...holy...that one hit me like a friggin rock...I even posted in a political thread this mornin....sheesh...I should know better then that...lol....good to see the milfs won't die....gotta love friends that grow..fo sho!

BG

Dibs on the o90xB (OB1)

 

[gzzmo]

hello 150ers, I need your generous support

the details: simple NFT hydro system in a box that's only 40cmx40x120.
to this day, that's about 3 harvests, i've been using a 70w hps.
no problems with that, yield was around 40-60g (as far as i remember, never took any precise measurements and it was quite different from grow to grow depending on how well i managed the screen).

Now comes in this question: i want to move up some, unless it's useless. 150w sounds about ok as to heat, which pretty much is the only factor of importance. what do you think? way more heat than a 70w (ballast is remote, so no worries about that one...)?

now do you think i can raise my yields significantly by size and density of buds or am i limited due to the size of the space? btw i usually flower 2 plants, this time i'll be trying to get it up to 3 plants...unless you all tell me not to i'm not quite sure what's better as to yield: rather two plants grown bigger (advantage of size, maybe?) or three plants more compact (probably more yield than two plants even tho the individual yield is somewhat smaller?)? hm...don't know!

how far above the plants does the 150 need to be? right now i'm having my scrog screen at about 30cm above RW cube level, so with another 30-40cm above screen i should be alright whatever the distance may be.

well, well, i hope you're eager to spread some information ;D

thanks in advance!

 

[invision]

3 weeks flower 2x150hps

 

[Bulénath]

Invision they are very pretty.

Gzzmo,
heres some pics for ya of my TWO 150hps cabs.

First cabinet the black cab:
Flower chamber is 3 square feet and 36" tall.
I can fit two 5-gallon pots. Onle one of those are pictured.
Or it can fit five 1-gallon pots.
The plants can safely get 5" from the light.






Here is the opposite, my white cabinet 150hps:
Flower chamber 2.4 square feet and 17-1/2" high.
Pots- three x 1-gallon pots.
The leaves can tough the sides of the glass shield and they will become light bleached before burning. A safe distance seems to be 3" from the glass sheild, and thats about 4"tops from the bulb.
This cabinet runs only 2-4F degrees above ambient becausae of all the fans.



But it's no easy task, for I have to always LST and train. Also, it's only possible provided I cool the light and ballast, which are all seperate in the attic.





Oh yeah, most 150hps growers yeild 3 ounces per harvest. If you can pull 40-60g's from a 70hps, then holy fuck you will do twice as good with a 150hps. I dont think anyone broke the 1gpw yet, except maybe for some cirrcular scrogger in Europe. The highest average so far seems to be 0.7gpw per 60 day flowering period. I would suggest you get a 150 and that strain you been itchen to grow.

 

[Bulénath]

SugabearII,
You have some ICE and bluethunder half way ready? Sounds good like Blueberry x thunderfuck or something. Did you take pictures yet? Throw us a bone at least!
And wow three years of smoke... You can just sit around all day and roll cigar sized blunts lucky guy! I understand why you got rid of the 400 though, whats the use when you got your 150's and a golden throne made from a pile of dank herb. The 150's are just the best damm light bulb, hands down.
Thats cool to share the wealth of seeds aswell as knowledge. Much respect.

Ill be looking into the hash deal when I get my screen. But thescreenbuddy.com cant be contacted and wont return my calls/e-mails. I think I got ripped.
( I like the sticky finger hash as I havent tried the gritty stuff much)

 

[sugabear_II]

SugabearII,
You have some ICE and bluethunder half way ready? Sounds good like Blueberry x thunderfuck or something. Did you take pictures yet? Throw us a bone at least!
And wow three years of smoke... You can just sit around all day and roll cigar sized blunts lucky guy! I understand why you got rid of the 400 though, whats the use when you got your 150's and a golden throne made from a pile of dank herb. The 150's are just the best damm light bulb, hands down.
Thats cool to share the wealth of seeds aswell as knowledge. Much respect.

Ill be looking into the hash deal when I get my screen. But thescreenbuddy.com cant be contacted and wont return my calls/e-mails. I think I got ripped.
( I like the sticky finger hash as I havent tried the gritty stuff much)

oh hey sorry I never shared the blue thunder pictures when I had her growing in my big cab - this is the mom of the clone I have now - yield wasn't so great and the plant really doesn't like fertilizers at all - I had a weird leaf necrosis the whole grow that I could never fix. The strain is reeferman's blueberry sativa x mantuska thunderfuck.... from what I read the bb sat is a selection reef made from a bunch of dj short bb seeds and the mtf is the lavender pheno - three males were used in the cross. Buds are dense and unique in both appearance and odor - the taste is like opium - floral and incensey - seriously both me and my budy smoked it and immediately said opium - the red crystal stuff I saw a few summers back - but that is what it tastes like - really slow in veg and hard the clone I'm flowerin is small and is in my veg cabinet right now while the burmese finishes in the 150 cabinet.

ok so here's the seed plant







the ice well I'll have to take some pictures tonight - it is in the 150 cab with the burmese that is finishing up.


oh and yeah the 150 is the best damn personal grow bulb out there!
-suga

 

[sugabear_II]

hello 150ers, I need your generous support

the details: simple NFT hydro system in a box that's only 40cmx40x120.
to this day, that's about 3 harvests, i've been using a 70w hps.
no problems with that, yield was around 40-60g (as far as i remember, never took any precise measurements and it was quite different from grow to grow depending on how well i managed the screen).

Now comes in this question: i want to move up some, unless it's useless. 150w sounds about ok as to heat, which pretty much is the only factor of importance. what do you think? way more heat than a 70w (ballast is remote, so no worries about that one...)?

Having never run a 70 watter this is a hard question to answer. It obviously will produce more heat but I wouldn't think it would be double the heat even though it is double the wattage.

now do you think i can raise my yields significantly by size and density of buds or am i limited due to the size of the space? btw i usually flower 2 plants, this time i'll be trying to get it up to 3 plants...unless you all tell me not to i'm not quite sure what's better as to yield: rather two plants grown bigger (advantage of size, maybe?) or three plants more compact (probably more yield than two plants even tho the individual yield is somewhat smaller?)? hm...don't know!

Yes I think you can increase your yield with more light. Let's see I gotta convert to english figures... so 40cm = 15.9" and 120cm = 47.2" .... so assuming the 40cm x 40cm is your floor space it works out to be around 1.75 square feet ( (15.9 x 15.9) / (12x12) ) so the 150 would give you some very strong light in there, around 85 watts per square foot which is very good. Currently you have less than 40 watts per square foot. 50 is considered to be minimum. I would think upgrading to a 150 will not only increase your yield by a bunch but will also result in much better bud density.

as for plant numbers - I like to run two plants under my 150 but my space is more of a rectangular shape. With your space you could go up to 4 plants.

how far above the plants does the 150 need to be? right now i'm having my scrog screen at about 30cm above RW cube level, so with another 30-40cm above screen i should be alright whatever the distance may be.

well, well, i hope you're eager to spread some information ;D

thanks in advance!

The 150 can be kept fairly close - within 6 inches (15cm) or less if you have good airflow and your temps aren't out of control.

You could lower your screen a little if you needed to but it sounds like you have plenty of head room for the 150.

hope that helps answer your questions...

suga

 

[Bulénath]

Very good info Suga, and wonderful pictures aswell. I'm looking foward to watching that bluethunder finnish. Yummy.

 

[sugabear_II]

Thanks Bule

but that was from the big cabinet.... here is the 150 cabinet

burmese on the left (just a few days left now) and ICE on the right




so where's the blue thunder? -it's in the veg cabinet flowering and waiting to move under the 150 cab when the burmese finishes

 

[gzzmo]

thank you all for answering my questions! right now i don'T have the time to answer appropriately, but i will...just somewhat later

 

[Q_ba1]

Hi guys, today I have back from poland and there are new pix of my plants
skunk special female seeds, 6 plants, hps 150 + 2x cfl 1000 lum daylight

 

[jasonk]

Wow Q_Ba1, very nice buds. What wattage CFLs you using? I plan on using 2 42W with my 150W with 4 sqft of floor space and I'm a lil nervous. You give me hope.
Cheers

 

[invision]

havent posted in a few days and here is whats going on......

they decided to over triple in size and stand over 3 feet tall now, i flowered them at about 10inches tall, well they decided to get so big they grew right into the lights and caused minor burns to just a few fan leaves.

i had to place the shield back so the tops didnt get fried up, they are now just over 3 weeks into flower and stopped growing right up to the glass, temps sit at 70-75F lights on now.

i already started thier nutes (10-50-10) at 1/4 strength and they took it very well, the clone which is there burried in the foiliage toward the bottom is doing awesome.