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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

sugabear_II

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SaintBebo - the space sounds good - the 150 will have trouble penetrating down to the bottom of 3 foot tall plants. That is why most folks use either scrog or lst to keep an even canopy. I'd suggest scrog and also cutting down the number of plants to 2 or 4 unless you are dealing with a zero stretch indica you'll end up with 6 plants fighting for space.

greengrow - roots continue to grow all throughout the life cycle - trust me in DWC I can watch it happen. a few small roots at the start of flower will turn into a football sized mass of roots by harvest time. Also remember the nigerian is very photo period sensitive such that 16/8 would easily trigger flower.


bulenath - any sprouts of the ob1s yet? I think you should try to keep a mom of the monster - maybe you can find an outdoor spot for her?

nice cab invision - looks like you got planty of light I wonder how it will perform compared to a 400?

suga
 

BonsaiGrower

Occasional User
sugabear_II said:
bulenath - any sprouts of the ob1s yet? I think you should try to keep a mom of the monster - maybe you can find an outdoor spot for her?

nice cab invision - looks like you got planty of light I wonder how it will perform compared to a 400?

suga



Ha Suga we must have posted at the same time...I was thinkin the same thing...don't Kill it Bulenath...be a shame to do that. and I'm totally lurking Invisions 300w set up to see how it will compare. My 150w new set up fits one scrog tub same size as the two in my 430w cab so this should be fun to watch ... I'll be comparing one screen under a 150w to 2 screens under a 430W...I'll post pics later today or tomorrow of what the new tent looks like.

Peace
 

green_grow

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thanks for your input guys. i am relieved to hear that rootmass will continue to grow during flower, that means i should get a decent crop from these gals.

in answer to your questions ... 1) i did, in fact, use 16/8 lighting rather than 18/6. obviously this was enough to push them into flower and i wont use it again unless i WANT flowering to occur. 2) these plants are between 2 - 3 months old . that might make it sound like they are large but they are NOT. one of them is a runt that i am curious about, one is a slender SUGARWARP from which i am hoping for a nice sativa effect, and the others have been bonzai'd and clipped so that they wouldnt outgrow my small veg cab . they are MORE than ready for transplant and then 12/12 lighting . this will be done this weekend and i hope to get a pic up of them as well .

happy hobbying and happy 2007 to all !
long live the 150 club.
 

BonsaiGrower

Occasional User
Finally

Finally

here it is guys...finally fired it up with the scrubber. Another few weeks and I'll have some ready to go in. LUI will be the test run against my 430w Cab. As you can see it fits the same size grow screen, only 1 though compared to my 430w 2 screens. A little less watts/sq foot but I'll have the light a bit closer. Should be interesting to see anyways.

Peace


 

invision

Member
thanks for the welcmome guys i appreciate it, as for my cab set up heres a old pic i have when i first germed the seeds, its shows the reflectors and a 6" inline fan.


i take some new pics tonight as well for you.


 

Pipedream

Proudly Growing My Own Since 1969
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Let me first start off by saying “Happy New Year” to all of our official members and, just as importantly, those of you that just stop by from time-to-time, and either post or just check us out.

I can’t believe it’s coming up on a year since I started this thread. Having been one of the original members when we were on OG, I just knew this would be a great place for us to continue our idea sharing and helping. And, you surely didn’t let me down! In less than one year, we have become one of the three-most-viewed threads on the entire International Cannagraphic site. While a few others may have more posts, at nearly 100,000 views, were only second to both “Post Your Piece” and “Sad News on RC”.

So why am I telling you this? Not to stroke your ego, but rather to seek your input. I think the time has arrived for us to get a few of the “crystals” we love on our own shoes and become a little “Sticky.” That’s right, I feel our thread should be given a permanent spot at the top of the Growers Forum. As many, many, visitors use us as an information resource, we should be readily available for all to find and access.

While many of us have fond memories of OG, I’m confident we all feel truly at home here on IC. That being said, I would like to drop the OG reference in the title of our thread and change it from “150 HPS Club (OG Continuation)” to “150 HPS Club & Resource Guide”.

As this thread belongs to all of us, I will not ask to have anything changed without your approval and input. So mull over what I have put forth here and let me know what you think. Feel free to post your feelings here or send them to me in a PM.

For now, a Happy and Healthy New Year to all and Grow Safe & Grow Smart.

Pipedream
 
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jasonk

Member
Happy New year to all. Hopefully the new year brings us all what we're looking for.
I think its a great idea Pipedream. I wasn't very involved with this thread at OG, but I did check it out a few times. I wouldnt call this thread here at IC a continuation anyomre, it can stand alone.
 

Q_ba1

Member
Yeah, its really great idea Pipedream, this thread should be sticky.

However, about hps 150, ive got one
Some pics
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ive got inside 6 skunk special from female seeds, 25 days for veg and today is 11th day of flo, lst of course, pots 6,5liters

about my box, as you can see its a waredrobe, 180x74x44cm, grow area is 72x42cm and its 0,3m^2, there are 4 computer fans 80x80 12V to take air out of the waredrobe, carbonate filter, one 80fan as air circulator inside, all electronics is under the roof of waredrobe on the special shelf-board, i used diamond mylar to light reflection

I hope you like it :wink:
 
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SaintBebo

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sugabear_II said:
SaintBebo - the space sounds good - the 150 will have trouble penetrating down to the bottom of 3 foot tall plants. That is why most folks use either scrog or lst to keep an even canopy. I'd suggest scrog and also cutting down the number of plants to 2 or 4 unless you are dealing with a zero stretch indica you'll end up with 6 plants fighting for space.

suga

Thanks for the response. Can someone tell me what is the best height for this setup would be? If the light will not penetrate the 3 feet then I can just built the cabinet shorter. So the question is: How much vertical grow room is ideal? I probably will be using SCROG as well.

Also, my goal is 2-3 ounces per grow (.5g/watt). Assuming I take care of the plants, would this be a reasonable goal?

Regards,

TheSaint
 

Pipedream

Proudly Growing My Own Since 1969
Veteran
Q ba1 - Beautiful set-up. I too grow 6 under a single 150 in a wardrobe as well.

SaintBebo - There are as many different ways to grow these plants as there are growers to do it. With the method I use, I too have about three feet of growing height and use every inch of it. And as mentioned above, I only use a single 150 to do it. Follow the link in my signature for a detailed explaination of my set-up.
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Jaxom

Member
Just my two cents here. There is such a wealth of information in this thread, I truely wish it was actually it's own forum.

Happy New Years everyone!!!

Jaxom
 

OhioPlayer

New member
the OG Spliffco, Inc post on converting lights is a mother fucking classic!i love small grows cuz i dont deal and i think anyone that smokes alot andcan grow should.
 

gattorama

Member
Dear guys,
I've been following this thread since the OG times, though I've never posted.

I have a setup based on Pipedream's one: 6 small container (4-5 litters) under a single 150 W hp, in a small wardrobe. I copied it a year ago, or so, and had, since then, quite good results (I'm able to sustain myself!).

Since some time ago I used to use the General Hydroponics tripack as nutes. I can buy them only in marijuana-growing types of shops that were quite common in my town (I leave in Italy). But after some police busts many of them started closing...

Now, I wanted to become independent and started using some common Hanna nutes with the appropriate level of the different needed elements.

The problem I'm now facing we the new nutes is ph related: since they do not have any ph buffer and I'm using RO water, the solution, with correct readings (ph of 5.8) at the beginning, shows a lowering ph over time, till a minimum of 3.8. I can obviously use some ph up, but the ph is far from being stable and I have to correct it very frequently.

I tried to use some tap water (1/4) to have some ph buffer, but the solution takes the tap water ph, around 7.0. I can use ph down (phosphoric or nitric acid), but once again I'm not able to stabilize the ph.

I'd like to have your advise on the subject.

Keep on with the great work!
 

sugabear_II

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SaintBebo said:
Thanks for the response. Can someone tell me what is the best height for this setup would be? If the light will not penetrate the 3 feet then I can just built the cabinet shorter. So the question is: How much vertical grow room is ideal? I probably will be using SCROG as well.

Also, my goal is 2-3 ounces per grow (.5g/watt). Assuming I take care of the plants, would this be a reasonable goal?

Regards,

TheSaint

Well SaintBebo I gave an answer that works for me, but as you can see many people like pipedream do grow taller plants with the 150 and I certainly didn't mean to discount that or suggest that there is only one way to grow. I've just found that SCROG is the most productive for me. With scrog the screen should be 6-10" above the top of the container and you should expect 6-12" of bud growth on top of that after all the training is done depending upon strain.

2-3 ounces per grow is easily achievable with a 150 assuming no major problems occur. I consistently was able to achieve this with the 150 using scrog in my little cabinet. I found in some cases where I allowed the plants to form a stadium shape around the bulb much more was achievable - up to 4 ounces from 2 plants in a 60 day cycle.

If you have the space like pipedream to do a staggered or perpetual harvest more is possible since you can have plants start flowering in the darker corners of the cabinet and rotate the ones that are near finishing to the sweet spot. This way you can consistently pull a 2oz plant ever 2 weeks or so for as long as you can keep up with the work as it's alot of work to go perpetual - you're always cloning, transplanting and harvesting, timing is critical and you must have a veg space. That is what I've been doing in my big cabinet under a 400 for the last three months and without going into numbers I can say it is very very productive to grow this way.

-suga
 
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Jaxom

Member
Scroggin'

Scroggin'

Sugabear,

You've mentioned that you scrogged in your cabinet? If ya don't mind, I'd like to ask a few general questions about this. Need to keep my brain active while I slowly accumulate the nessary materials for my cabinet.

What strains do you recommend for scroggin'? Right now I have a Snow White mother, also seeds for Aurora Indicia and Citral. Those strains are mainly good for couch lock. But I'd also like something of a more "up high" as well. I'm just afraid I might order something that would strech too much or take forever to ripen.

My other question is how to pick the right plants for mom's when concidering scrogging. I'm hoping the Snow White adapts to scrob. I loved it as a sog plant. Nice short plants with big frosty buds. Wish I had pics from my large 1000w grow. The thing is, I bought the feminzed Snow White seeds from Gypsie. Of 10 seeds, 8 sprouted two died a few weeks later. From there I just kept track of which plant was which and kept the ones with the highest yeild, until I got it down to one mother.

Now with seeds that are not feminzed, I'm not so sure what to do. Mainly because I just don't have as much room for experimenting with. My planned scoggin' area is 2'x2'x4' (approx). The planned mother chamber is 2'x2'x2'. (again approx). Would I have to wait till the cuttings grow roots before I could start sexing? Or can I do that nearly right away?

tia,

Jax
 

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