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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......
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Bulénath
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Oh yeah,
The sisters of the above plant: Duckfoot and Plant #1 only yeilded 42 grams combined! Not impressed, but stoned. Here they are:
and Plant #1
old sick clones:
Those clones are from the 111 day old fat ass stativa above. The two on the side are going into one gallon pots soon. The middle one is the mother:
She is the healthiest looking! HAhaha oh this isnt right....
Shes upgrading into a quart soon...
Shes been on 24/7 lighting since being cut 90 days ago during flower.
Im going to have to revert her to 18/6 for about a month, to veg the seedlings. Any concers I should be aware of when doing this?
The sisters of the above plant: Duckfoot and Plant #1 only yeilded 42 grams combined! Not impressed, but stoned. Here they are:
and Plant #1
old sick clones:
Those clones are from the 111 day old fat ass stativa above. The two on the side are going into one gallon pots soon. The middle one is the mother:
She is the healthiest looking! HAhaha oh this isnt right....
Shes upgrading into a quart soon...
Shes been on 24/7 lighting since being cut 90 days ago during flower.
Im going to have to revert her to 18/6 for about a month, to veg the seedlings. Any concers I should be aware of when doing this?
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BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Sugabear...thanks bro...great pics...and here I have been composting that amount of trim all along. I'll be stopping by the silk screening factory on my way home from work today ....that's for sure!!!!
Bulénath ... White cabinet looks good and clean man...nice job... and the black cab looks like a nuclear cloud .... hope it smokes as good as it looks. Get out the hazmut suit!!
Peace and have a great day everyone
Bulénath ... White cabinet looks good and clean man...nice job... and the black cab looks like a nuclear cloud .... hope it smokes as good as it looks. Get out the hazmut suit!!
Peace and have a great day everyone
jasonk
Member
Bulénath - Very nice cab, scares me to think I have the same light in twice the floor space and almost 3 times that height. Haha, maybe Ill need extra lighting eventually.
I saw somewhere today a round plastic pipe, about 5 " diameter and prbly 3/8" wall thickness, I think it would be perfect to make a cool tube from. Not sure still where to buy it, but I think it would be easier for me to find then a hurricane lantern globe. Im wondering though will the plastic be much more inefficient then glass?
I saw somewhere today a round plastic pipe, about 5 " diameter and prbly 3/8" wall thickness, I think it would be perfect to make a cool tube from. Not sure still where to buy it, but I think it would be easier for me to find then a hurricane lantern globe. Im wondering though will the plastic be much more inefficient then glass?
Bulénath
Member
What do you mean, clear plastic for the light? Man thats a tough call. The 150's do get hot enough to melt plastic.
I wouldent want to risk it, although its possible if you have a super good fan pulling on the lights. Its easy to imagine all sorts of problems with plastic and heat.
Go with the Bake-a-round style!
Bonsai(!),
Dont worry. Your cabinet isnt big, this cab is just super super small!
Edit: Thanks guys im glad you like it too. Yeah she does look like a nuclear cloud dosent she! hehe
She looks like her momma--
Momma gave me 150 grams in 133 days. This is momma 20 days ahead of Nuclear Cloud. I think momma looks bigger...
I wouldent want to risk it, although its possible if you have a super good fan pulling on the lights. Its easy to imagine all sorts of problems with plastic and heat.
Go with the Bake-a-round style!
Bonsai(!),
Dont worry. Your cabinet isnt big, this cab is just super super small!
Edit: Thanks guys im glad you like it too. Yeah she does look like a nuclear cloud dosent she! hehe
She looks like her momma--
Momma gave me 150 grams in 133 days. This is momma 20 days ahead of Nuclear Cloud. I think momma looks bigger...
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wow Bulénath your cabinets are looking so fine bro - that u2 came out super nice and clean. If I may suggest one last item that will keep any unwanted people from opening the doors and that is this - (if I can find the picture... yeah I know my gallery is too dang big!)
it is a window sash lock and can be bought at home depot for around $10. It allows you to lock the doors of your cabinet and IMHO looks fairly good and not too out of place.
I'm not sure what you mean by a shot of what those leaves looked like before the plant was harvested - those leaves came from my burmese pure which was very frosty - here's some pics before harvest
I take the big fan leaves off first when I harvest and these are frozen fresh (not dry) and then run through the bubble bags. Then the rest of the little leaves are left on and allowed to slow dry. 7-10 days later I trim whatever leaves I don't want to smoke off the buds and that is what produced the pile in the picture. I'll run them once on the silk screen and then I'll freeze the trim and run it through the bubble bags (probably tonight). So I really get the harvest of dry sift and then the harvest of bubble off of this little pile of trim.
The screen I don't know the size of - it is the only one they had at Michael's which I believe is a chain craft store across the usa and it was a little over $20. Considering the number of times I have turned my trim into some super dry sift it was money well spent. I think a better craft store or art supply shop would have a better selection and maybe cheaper prices. The key is to remember that mature resin glands will be between 160 microns and 70 microns. So your screen should be around 160 microns to let through the glands. A second screen (70 micron) could allow contaminants (leaf particles etc) to fall through but it really isn't necassary.
it is a window sash lock and can be bought at home depot for around $10. It allows you to lock the doors of your cabinet and IMHO looks fairly good and not too out of place.
I'm not sure what you mean by a shot of what those leaves looked like before the plant was harvested - those leaves came from my burmese pure which was very frosty - here's some pics before harvest
I take the big fan leaves off first when I harvest and these are frozen fresh (not dry) and then run through the bubble bags. Then the rest of the little leaves are left on and allowed to slow dry. 7-10 days later I trim whatever leaves I don't want to smoke off the buds and that is what produced the pile in the picture. I'll run them once on the silk screen and then I'll freeze the trim and run it through the bubble bags (probably tonight). So I really get the harvest of dry sift and then the harvest of bubble off of this little pile of trim.
The screen I don't know the size of - it is the only one they had at Michael's which I believe is a chain craft store across the usa and it was a little over $20. Considering the number of times I have turned my trim into some super dry sift it was money well spent. I think a better craft store or art supply shop would have a better selection and maybe cheaper prices. The key is to remember that mature resin glands will be between 160 microns and 70 microns. So your screen should be around 160 microns to let through the glands. A second screen (70 micron) could allow contaminants (leaf particles etc) to fall through but it really isn't necassary.
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Bulénath
Member
Yeah it does need a lock! That one pictured looks really nice. Does the latch enter the chamber, or is it completely outside?
Really like the info on hash making. Something thats still a dream! You make really good use of all your plants!
Oh yeah,
Suga your seeds cracked and sprouted faster than anyhtihng I ever worked with. They sunk for a presoak, and within 10 hours all but one cracked underwater! I had to save them from drowning at 2:00am! Bom Shiva!
Really like the info on hash making. Something thats still a dream! You make really good use of all your plants!
Oh yeah,
Suga your seeds cracked and sprouted faster than anyhtihng I ever worked with. They sunk for a presoak, and within 10 hours all but one cracked underwater! I had to save them from drowning at 2:00am! Bom Shiva!
Bulénath said:She looks like her momma--
Momma gave me 150 grams in 133 days. This is momma 20 days ahead of Nuclear Cloud. I think momma looks bigger...
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!
how the hell did u get that plant to make just bud and nearly no leaves at all ???
Bulénath said:
completely on the outside of the cabinet.
another alternative is to use tot locks - which have a magnetic key and are invisible from the outside. You take a magnet and hold it to the correct spot and the latch clicks and you can open the doors.
everyone should try to make a little hash outta their trim - you'll be glad you did. I even remember a DIY on OG that used a piece of nylon panty hose over the mouth of a glass jar with your shake and a rubber ball or coin - shake over a piece of glass and in no time you'll have sometin' good!
awesome! remember the squater more branchy one is the 8-9 week plant and the lanky one is the 12 week plant
G
Guest
bulenath, your colas never cease to amaze me 
BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
So my search for a silk screen yesterday turned out harder than expected. We have aprox 25 Silk Screening Business' in our area and only 1 that will sell a plain screen without the rest of their services. (ie. if you aren't getting shirts screened we don't want your business) .....ha...to funny....in the middle of typing this the 1 place finally returned my call ... and here's my experience from that call... way too many questions from the guy as to what I needed it for but I'm quick on my feet and handled it...long story short ... it would be about twice as much as what Sugabear advised us on. We have a Micheal's up here in Canada too so I'll be checkin them out on my way to work today instead. Having to order a frame from a silk screener and go through the 20 questions and then have them ship it to me suddenly seems like the wrong thing to be doing. The guy at the silk screen manufacturer, for the life of him could not figure out why someone would want a plain silk screen.
Thanks for the tips Suga ... and I hope my experience on the phone this morning helps someone else. .... A local craft store that takes cash and a smile gets my vote!!!
Peace and be safe everyone...an old friend once told me... "When doing something wrong, do everything else right"
Thanks for the tips Suga ... and I hope my experience on the phone this morning helps someone else. .... A local craft store that takes cash and a smile gets my vote!!!
Peace and be safe everyone...an old friend once told me... "When doing something wrong, do everything else right"
G
Guest
bonsai, rather than contact silk screeners, go to an art supply store. crafts stores like hobby lobby don't have what you're looking for.
the art supply stores usually have a few different mesh screens. if you tell them you want to try them out, they'll sell you a sample cut of each mesh. typically the finest mesh they'll have is what you want, but you'll have to try it for yourself. my advice = look for the 12xx. i've never tried 14xx but i imagine it would be REALLY high quality scuff but not much yield. i think the 12xx is a perfect balance of quality and yield. comes out really blonde, hardly any specs of green in it.
this is what the 12xx silkscreen gets me (make sure they label it right)....
the art supply stores usually have a few different mesh screens. if you tell them you want to try them out, they'll sell you a sample cut of each mesh. typically the finest mesh they'll have is what you want, but you'll have to try it for yourself. my advice = look for the 12xx. i've never tried 14xx but i imagine it would be REALLY high quality scuff but not much yield. i think the 12xx is a perfect balance of quality and yield. comes out really blonde, hardly any specs of green in it.
this is what the 12xx silkscreen gets me (make sure they label it right)....
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BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
User Name Awsome...thanks Bro ... good advice. Great pics man ... did you just take that I.C. Pic? except for the incriminating numbers on the card it would be a good ad pic for I.C. Looking closely it looks like the name on the card is "Your Name Here" kinda apropa for a guy named USERNAME....too funny! ...
Cheers all ....I'm officially on X-Mas Holidays as of right now and feel like building something....something bigger than a breadbox and smaller than a tree!
peace
Cheers all ....I'm officially on X-Mas Holidays as of right now and feel like building something....something bigger than a breadbox and smaller than a tree!
peace
G
Guest
lmao, yea i got a few pm's about that pic when i posted it in the KICC thread
i actually shot that pic about 2 weeks ago right after i shook it out. took me about a week to smoke it all.
have fun bonsai! merry christmas to the whole IC crew!
i actually shot that pic about 2 weeks ago right after i shook it out. took me about a week to smoke it all.
have fun bonsai! merry christmas to the whole IC crew!
BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Merry X-Mas to you as well UserName ... all the best to you and yours!
Bulénath
Member
Hi smokey,
It must be the strain of pot! Maybe because she flowers for sooo long the bigger leaves become expendable due to the large amount of small leaves laced within the massive bud structure?
Heh Bonsai thats a wierd situation! I hate it when horticulture/hydro stores ask questions. I was soo stoned once I forgot to answer carfefully over the phone....
"Where did you hear about us?", in a happy tone...
"Overgrow!" I accidently said! HAHA needles to say he hung up on me!
UserName,
Whats up man! I never heard of silkscreens measured in xx. Perhaps your in a different country? (usa here). Is this as prevelent as micron measurements? Its much easier to remember than 3 odd numbers.
Happy Stoned Holidays Everyone
It must be the strain of pot! Maybe because she flowers for sooo long the bigger leaves become expendable due to the large amount of small leaves laced within the massive bud structure?
Heh Bonsai thats a wierd situation! I hate it when horticulture/hydro stores ask questions. I was soo stoned once I forgot to answer carfefully over the phone....
"Where did you hear about us?", in a happy tone...
"Overgrow!" I accidently said! HAHA needles to say he hung up on me!
UserName,
Whats up man! I never heard of silkscreens measured in xx. Perhaps your in a different country? (usa here). Is this as prevelent as micron measurements? Its much easier to remember than 3 odd numbers.
Happy Stoned Holidays Everyone
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BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Morning Everyone....ahhh...a wake-n-bake on a Friday....gotta love x-mas holidays, and this year I have some LUI to keep my spirits up. I don't really have much family and I'll only be seeing my Mom and my nieces this year. And that's not till the 27th so I'll be alone again this year on x-mas day. That happens often for me so if anyone else feels lonely on the 25th I'll be around for chatting. Whenever I'm alone for x-mas I always volunteer at the local "Mission" (homeless shelter) I highly reccomend this to anyone as it really brings the spirits up...plus you get a good meal and a large deposit into the Karma Bank.
Alright...I'm rambling ... man this LUI is great stuff
Bulénath Ya that situation with the screener was interesting to say the least...however...my hydro store couldn't care less what you grow and they take pride in not asking. I know that one of the guys that works there is a Cabinet Grower but no-one gets into details. They have been approached by LEO and asked to keep records and give to them but they flatly refused on the basis of personal privacy to their customers. (very good practice) I'd love to give them a shameless plug here but you can see why I can't do that here....ha.
Cheers everyone...I'm going to take a pic of my cab today as I'll be switching to 12/12 today or tomorrow. my first scrog attempt. I'll post again as soon as I have the pic.
Edit ... ha...but this is the 150w club ... I'll post on the 400w club though
Alright...I'm rambling ... man this LUI is great stuff
Bulénath Ya that situation with the screener was interesting to say the least...however...my hydro store couldn't care less what you grow and they take pride in not asking. I know that one of the guys that works there is a Cabinet Grower but no-one gets into details. They have been approached by LEO and asked to keep records and give to them but they flatly refused on the basis of personal privacy to their customers. (very good practice) I'd love to give them a shameless plug here but you can see why I can't do that here....ha.
Cheers everyone...I'm going to take a pic of my cab today as I'll be switching to 12/12 today or tomorrow. my first scrog attempt. I'll post again as soon as I have the pic.
Edit ... ha...but this is the 150w club ... I'll post on the 400w club though
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Bulénath said:
well i found when i had a couple of sativas going that they just gave fluffy sparse buds, nothing like yours. what strain are you growing ? cos its damn amazing
Username that's some awesome hash pictures you got there - looks very yummy
Bulénath I think the xx screen is a measure of how many threads per area there are, I have heard of it before but I'm not familiar with how it converts to microns which is the measure used by the bubble bag manufacturs. I tend to think the bubble guys use microns to keep the public from making there own.
BonsaiGrower Thanks for sharing your experience with the silk screen guys - I hate that when people at stores ask too many questions that you don't want to answer. I've had that problem before at the pet store when I walk in and buy 24 air stones at a time they ask how many gallons is my tank and I just kinda mumble... Sounds like you got a good hydro store - I like my local hydro store but his prices are a bit too high - good guys though - he was telling me about how he's been testing out the new digi ballast at home and then was like "on the plants in the store which I bring home..." and I was like "yeah right" I hope you have a merry christmas I'll try to pop in and say high 
if you're around.
and everyone else I hope your holidays find you with buds, love and peace, always.
-suga
Bulénath I think the xx screen is a measure of how many threads per area there are, I have heard of it before but I'm not familiar with how it converts to microns which is the measure used by the bubble bag manufacturs. I tend to think the bubble guys use microns to keep the public from making there own.
BonsaiGrower Thanks for sharing your experience with the silk screen guys - I hate that when people at stores ask too many questions that you don't want to answer. I've had that problem before at the pet store when I walk in and buy 24 air stones at a time they ask how many gallons is my tank and I just kinda mumble... Sounds like you got a good hydro store - I like my local hydro store but his prices are a bit too high - good guys though - he was telling me about how he's been testing out the new digi ballast at home and then was like "on the plants in the store which I bring home..." and I was like "yeah right"
I hope you have a merry christmas I'll try to pop in and say high if you're around.and everyone else I hope your holidays find you with buds, love and peace, always.
-suga
G
Guest
Bulénath said:UserName,
Whats up man! I never heard of silkscreens measured in xx. Perhaps your in a different country? (usa here). Is this as prevelent as micron measurements? Its much easier to remember than 3 odd numbers.
Happy Stoned Holidays Everyone
actually i'm in the US too.
the "xx" measurements are used for multifilament screens, the 3 number mesh measurement is used for monofilament screens. monofilament is more common that's probably why you haven't seen the "xx" measurement used.
monofilament is measured in threads per linear inch. multifilament is measured in holes per inch because it's made of multiple threads twisted together. multifilament is going to last longer without stretching (stretched out holes means green stuff falling through) but this stuff is pretty cheap so it's probably not worth tracking down.
the measurements can be misleading and here's why.....that 3 digit number stands for the threads per inch. so a 110 mesh screen has 110 threads per linear inch. now what that number DOESNT tell you is the thread diameter. different stores might be carrying 110 mesh with different sized threads therefore different size openings; probably depends on the manufacturer.
honestly, i don't think the fluctuation would make that much of a difference, but because of this, and because the balance of quality/yield is different for every grower, i think you should try a few and see what works best for you.
i bought some samples at the art supply store for $10 and i'm still using my 12xx pieces a year later with a smile on my face
hope this helps bro!
